Cornell 7 RPI 1 (postgame)

[PAthologicalLynah]

I'll try to keep the tone a little more positive.  The posts in the "time for a change" thread talking about the successes of the other cornell sports teams was really something.

[Dpperk29]

[quote Jim Hyla][quote Dpperk29][quote lynah80][quote Dpperk29]so is everyone still calling for Schafer's resignation?

sounds like Cornell dominated 'Tute...[/quote]

Seems your boys had a tough time away their little barn this weekend.  

Brown 4-3 in overtime and 2-5 against Yale?[/quote]

yeah... not really sure what happened in southern New England. it is totally unacceptable to lose like that to Yale. Sounds to me like Leggio had and off weekend and Billy Blaise stood on his head for Yale.

now, back to my original question... is everyone still looking for Schafer's resignation? it is a common flaw of sports fans to always think things are worse than they are or better than they are.[/quote]


I would guess that if you have to ask your question twice, you should know the answer; or were you just throwing flames and trying to start a fire. Many of us respect Clarkson and what they have done over the years. I think most of us feel this is your year, but we don't appreciate you coming to this site and seeming to try and start a fight. Maybe that was not your intent, but to twice have to say "is everyone still looking for Schafer's resignation", when you know that that question is blatantly not true, well I don't want to type what I think.

I enjoy it when other fans come here and post comments about their team, or what they thought of our team when we played them. I enjoy gentle ribbing when one or another of us stretches too far and we have to be brought back to earth. What I don't enjoy is someone from another school trying to stir up things that have nothing to do with them. Do they have the right to do it, of course; but it does nothing but leave a bad taste in my mouth about their school and fans.

As my daughter might say, I've ranted too long; and maybe you had the most innocent intent, but I hope you can understand that coming to our forum and talking about our coach resigning does not bring us closer.

As a postscript, most of us are silently hoping for Clarkson to finish the season in first, and to then have their patented tourney flop. After all, it's the only way we can get to the NCAA's.:-)[/quote]


Jim, I don't know what your problem is with me, but I wish you would stop seeing everything I say as a biased statement. I truly think Mike Schafer is one of the best coaches in the ECAC, and it bothered me to read what some people are saying about him, hence why I asked the question. Certain people need to realize that just because a team isn't at the top every year, the coach needs to be fired. I figured the people on this board who are slightly more than the casual fan would simply ignore it. oh well, I guess in the court of the high and mighty Jim Hyla I was wrong. Must be nice being right all the time.

Post Script: yes, I know I got personal with the last sentence, but I am starting to think that Jim will take everything I say as a flame fest.

[Jim Hyla]

[quote Dpperk29][quote Jim Hyla][quote Dpperk29][quote lynah80][quote Dpperk29]so is everyone still calling for Schafer's resignation?

sounds like Cornell dominated 'Tute...[/quote]

Seems your boys had a tough time away their little barn this weekend.  

Brown 4-3 in overtime and 2-5 against Yale?[/quote]

yeah... not really sure what happened in southern New England. it is totally unacceptable to lose like that to Yale. Sounds to me like Leggio had and off weekend and Billy Blaise stood on his head for Yale.

now, back to my original question... is everyone still looking for Schafer's resignation? it is a common flaw of sports fans to always think things are worse than they are or better than they are.[/quote]


I would guess that if you have to ask your question twice, you should know the answer; or were you just throwing flames and trying to start a fire. Many of us respect Clarkson and what they have done over the years. I think most of us feel this is your year, but we don't appreciate you coming to this site and seeming to try and start a fight. Maybe that was not your intent, but to twice have to say "is everyone still looking for Schafer's resignation", when you know that that question is blatantly not true, well I don't want to type what I think.

I enjoy it when other fans come here and post comments about their team, or what they thought of our team when we played them. I enjoy gentle ribbing when one or another of us stretches too far and we have to be brought back to earth. What I don't enjoy is someone from another school trying to stir up things that have nothing to do with them. Do they have the right to do it, of course; but it does nothing but leave a bad taste in my mouth about their school and fans.

As my daughter might say, I've ranted too long; and maybe you had the most innocent intent, but I hope you can understand that coming to our forum and talking about our coach resigning does not bring us closer.

As a postscript, most of us are silently hoping for Clarkson to finish the season in first, and to then have their patented tourney flop. After all, it's the only way we can get to the NCAA's.:-)[/quote]


Jim, I don't know what your problem is with me, but I wish you would stop seeing everything I say as a biased statement. I truly think Mike Schafer is one of the best coaches in the ECAC, and it bothered me to read what some people are saying about him, hence why I asked the question. Certain people need to realize that just because a team isn't at the top every year, the coach needs to be fired. I figured the people on this board who are slightly more than the casual fan would simply ignore it. oh well, I guess in the court of the high and mighty Jim Hyla I was wrong. Must be nice being right all the time.

Post Script: yes, I know I got personal with the last sentence, but I am starting to think that Jim will take everything I say as a flame fest.[/quote]

Well, to answer your question, my problem is with your question "is everyone still calling for Schafer's resignation". I may be wrong, but I don't remember "everyone calling for Schafer's resignation". Many were unhappy with the way the team was playing, and many wanted it to change. However you chose to try and hype the situation. I could find no other reason for your comment than that. If I'm wrong, then show me what the purpose was for making a false and incendiary question.

If it truly bothered you that Schafer was being criticized, then defend him and show those who complain why they are wrong. I and others have certainly done that. Asking the question you did certainly didn't sound like a defense of Schafer to me. As I've said before, I'm happy with "out of towner's"  coming here with interesting discussion, but not to make unsubstantiated statements which only hype the situation.

This view is of the poster only and does not necessarily represent the opinion of the management or its sponsors.

[Dpperk29]

[quote Jim Hyla]
Well, to answer your question, my problem is with your question "is everyone still calling for Schafer's resignation". I may be wrong, but I don't remember "everyone calling for Schafer's resignation". Many were unhappy with the way the team was playing, and many wanted it to change. However you chose to try and hype the situation. I could find no other reason for your comment than that. If I'm wrong, then show me what the purpose was for making a false and incendiary question.

If it truly bothered you that Schafer was being criticized, then defend him and show those who complain why they are wrong. I and others have certainly done that. Asking the question you did certainly didn't sound like a defense of Schafer to me. As I've said before, I'm happy with "out of towner's"  coming here with interesting discussion, but not to make unsubstantiated statements which only hype the situation.

This view is of the poster only and does not necessarily represent the opinion of the management or its sponsors.[/quote]

I would try and argue this with you more but it's like arguing with a 4 year old. no matter how logical one is, the 4 year old always wins because they are so damn stubborn. I'll keep my future comments to myself.

[DeltaOne81]

Dpperk, Jim may have took more offense then you intended, but I think he has a fair point that your remark came across as incendiary. Rather than defending Schafer, it came across to some as attacking the fan base. I get the feeling now that you did not intend it that way, but I dont think Jim's point has been unreasonable either.

[amerks127]

wrong spot

[amerks127]

I personally think this argument is utterly ridiculous and think you all need to check your egos.  Who cares if Dpperk29 may or may not have insinuated something.  It seems like a chronic problem that whenever someone says something negative about the team or fanbase, the "really elynah-faithful" pull out the big guns and carelessly drop a bunch of bombs.

I found this pretty amusing...Did no one else notice that Dpperk29's comment:

it is a common flaw of sports fans to always think things are worse than they are or better than they are.

is almost exactly something Mike Schafer said a few weeks ago?

Right before the team left for North Country Schafer had this to say:

"We are trying to have a reality check with our guys right now. There is an old saying in sports that you're never as good as you think you are, and you're never as bad as you think you are. We want our guys to have that kind of model of it. When you play well and you lose you can't beat yourself up mentally, and when you play well and win ... you cant overcompensate and talk about how great your are. ... It's a fine line as a coach because we're 3-0-1 over our last four games and we have to keep pushing and keep getting better."

We got 4 games to go in the season.  Let's concentrate on that first round bye and perhaps finishing 2 or 3 to avoid a collision with Tech in the semis at Albany.

[Trotsky]

[quote PAthologicalLynah]I'll try to keep the tone a little more positive.  The posts in the "time for a change" thread talking about the successes of the other cornell sports teams was really something.[/quote]The context you might not know is whenever the team loses 2 or 3 in a row there is a spate of posts from fans who have only seen winning teams calling for Schafer's head.  The oldtimers (like me) who remember truly lean years have gotten to where we just head them off at the pass.  We have itchy trigger fingers on silliness, and in your case we jumped the gun.

[Trotsky]

[quote BMac]sang "always look on the bright side of life[/quote]I hope this becomes a tradition when the team reaches 5 or 6 goals.  It's a great idea for a new cheer and (as anybody who has been to LOB in person knows) it sounds fantastic in hundred-person harmony.

[RichH]

[quote PAthologicalLynah] they are 7.5% (11/147) on the PP for the season.  Yikes.[/quote]

I made a post about a month ago about how RPI has a chance to allow more SH goals than they score on the PP.  After this weekend, they have 11 PPG and 10 SHA.  Cornell had at least three 2-on-1 shorthanded breaks, but didn't cash any of them in.  I still have hope that RPI can do it.

[RichH]

[quote sah67][quote BMac]

On another note, Topher had 5 points tonight. Five.[/quote]

Almost...4 points: 1g 3a.  But he's now at 98 career points.  Can't wait to see him reach 100 (hopefully before the playoffs?)[/quote]

Our little assist machine has completely turned it on the past month or so.  He has turned into a legitimate scoring threat from the usual gnat-like tenacious style we have known.  The one-timer Friday was surprisingly strong, and he's been very aggressive driving to the front of the net.  Even when he's been kept off the scoreboard recently, he's still played some outstanding hockey.  I love the fact that this guy is so close to 100 career points.

[PAthologicalLynah]

Well that is definitely understandable.  And we should consider ourselves lucky if it takes a 2-3 game losing streak;  it takes BU, Maine, and UNH fans a single period or two of sloppy play before their fans start to cry and jump off the bandwagon (or in BU's and Maine's cases this year, a fiery, sinking train wreck of carnage.)

[ursusminor]

[quote RichH][quote PAthologicalLynah] they are 7.5% (11/147) on the PP for the season.  Yikes.[/quote]

I made a post about a month ago about how RPI has a chance to allow more SH goals than they score on the PP.  After this weekend, they have 11 PPG and 10 SHA.  Cornell had at least three 2-on-1 shorthanded breaks, but didn't cash any of them in.  I still have hope that RPI can do it.[/quote]

That would really put a crappy end to a season that has gone down the toilet. ::pain:: ;-)

[Rich S]

Ralph,

I fully expect that RPI will play very well on Sat eve against Tech.  I'll be there watching closely.

[Rich S]

[quote Jim Hyla][quote Dpperk29][quote Jim Hyla][quote Dpperk29][quote lynah80][quote Dpperk29]so is everyone still calling for Schafer's resignation?

sounds like Cornell dominated 'Tute...[/quote]

Seems your boys had a tough time away their little barn this weekend.  

Brown 4-3 in overtime and 2-5 against Yale?[/quote]

yeah... not really sure what happened in southern New England. it is totally unacceptable to lose like that to Yale. Sounds to me like Leggio had and off weekend and Billy Blaise stood on his head for Yale.

quote]


Many of us respect Clarkson and what they have done over the years. I think most of us feel this is your year, but we don't appreciate you coming to this site and seeming to try and start a fight. Maybe that was not your intent, but to twice have to say "is everyone still looking for Schafer's resignation", when you know that that question is blatantly not true, well I don't want to type what I think.

I enjoy it when other fans come here and post comments about their team, or what they thought of our team when we played them. I enjoy gentle ribbing when one or another of us stretches too far and we have to be brought back to earth. What I don't enjoy is someone from another school trying to stir up things that have nothing to do with them. Do they have the right to do it, of course; but it does nothing but leave a bad taste in my mouth about their school and fans.

[/quote]

Well, to answer your question, my problem is with your question "is everyone still calling for Schafer's resignation". I may be wrong, but I don't remember "everyone calling for Schafer's resignation". Many were unhappy with the way the team was playing, and many wanted it to change. However you chose to try and hype the situation. I could find no other reason for your comment than that. If I'm wrong, then show me what the purpose was for making a false and incendiary question.

If it truly bothered you that Schafer was being criticized, then defend him and show those who complain why they are wrong. I and others have certainly done that. Asking the question you did certainly didn't sound like a defense of Schafer to me. As I've said before, I'm happy with "out of towner's"  coming here with interesting discussion, but not to make unsubstantiated statements which only hype the situation.

This view is of the poster only and does not necessarily represent the opinion of the management or its sponsors.[/quote]

Jim,

I respect both yours and Dpperk's point of view and will not get into that.  

However, I will point out that regarding your objection to "out of towner's" making statements that "hype the situation" that it was only a few years ago that there were a lot of those made about the "Morris affair" by elynah folks who had an incomplete knowledge of the facts of that situation.

Those statements were largely vitriolic and called for either his suspension or firing and added little to the discussion, much as you claim in this case.

Looking forward to seeing you in Albany.