TSN Ranks Riley Nash #33 for the upcoming draft

[The Rancor]

[quote KeithK][quote redice]Can anyone argue that a player will have more time in the weight room at Cornell than he would have while keeping a heavier game/practice schedule in some other league?[/quote]
Yeah, actually I can.  Sure, playing fewer games might mean more time for weights but attending classes and doing homework makes takes away training time.  A kid in major juniors who has nothing to do besides practice and work out should have more time to work out than someone who has to do schoolwork.

Likewise, I'm sure Cornell means a lot more school time than at least several of the WCHA schools.  Even if you're an Hotelie. :-P[/quote]

And I, as GM, want to see guys that not only can handle pressure situations,but excel in spite of the pressure to succeed, either in the class room, locker room or playoff game 7.

[Rosey]

[quote The Rancor]And I, as GM[/quote]
Until one of you hosers actually becomes a GM of an NHL team, I will continue to laugh at your Monday morning quarterbacking.  I suspect they know their business much better than you do, and if they want draftees to play in Juniors or the WCHA, I suspect they have a good reason for it even though I don't know what that is.

Kyle

[redice]

[quote krose][quote The Rancor]And I, as GM[/quote]
Until one of you hosers actually becomes a GM of an NHL team, I will continue to laugh at your Monday morning quarterbacking.  I suspect they know their business much better than you do, and if they want draftees to play in Juniors or the WCHA, I suspect they have a good reason for it even though I don't know what that is.

Kyle[/quote]

I suspect there is not one correct answer here.   It's partially a matter of opinion (the GMs', not ours)  and, in other cases, the varying developmental needs of the particular player.

[ugarte]

[quote krose][quote The Rancor]And I, as GM[/quote]
Until one of you hosers actually becomes a GM of an NHL team, I will continue to laugh at your Monday morning quarterbacking.  I suspect they know their business much better than you do, and if they want draftees to play in Juniors or the WCHA, I suspect they have a good reason for it even though I don't know what that is.[/quote]
I second this. GMs probably get a lot of stuff wrong, as Moneyball and the statheads that influenced it 'proved.' But those folks had reason to believe that the conventional wisdom was wrong and did the legwork to back up their theories.

The idle speculation here appears to have no basis in fact - there AREN'T a disproportionate number of players coming out of the ECAC or Cornell, though some do. It is nothing more than grasping at straws to justify the decision - on hockey development grounds - to go to Cornell over the leagues generally regarded as the best places to be prepared for the NHL because of theories like "developing leadership skills" and "additional ice time."

If Nash couldn't get the ice time he needs to develop at a WCHA school or a WHL team, he wasn't going to make the NHL anyway.

[ftyuv]

[quote krose][quote The Rancor]And I, as GM[/quote]
Until one of you hosers actually becomes a GM of an NHL team, I will continue to laugh at your Monday morning quarterbacking.[/quote]

I think it's more of off-season quarterbacking

[The Rancor]

[quote ftyuv][quote krose][quote The Rancor]And I, as GM[/quote]
Until one of you hosers actually becomes a GM of an NHL team, I will continue to laugh at your Monday morning quarterbacking.[/quote]

I think it's more of off-season quarterbacking [/quote]

exactly! ::banana::

[evilnaturedrobot]

Somthing to consider is the kind of player that Riley Nash is, or atleast the kind of player that we've been told he is.  By all accounts, Riley is a responcible two-way player with nice, but not elite (atleast not by 1st round pick standards) offensive skills who doesn't shy away from contact.  Is this not the prototypical Cornell top line player?  

It's not about finding the absolute best developmental path, it's about finding the best route for the player in question.  Riley and Schafer sound like a good fit.

[Josh '99]

[quote evilnaturedrobot]Somthing to consider is the kind of player that Riley Nash is, or atleast the kind of player that we've been told he is.  By all accounts, Riley is a responcible two-way player with nice, but not elite (atleast not by 1st round pick standards) offensive skills who doesn't shy away from contact.  Is this not the prototypical Cornell top line player?  

It's not about finding the absolute best developmental path, it's about finding the best route for the player in question.  Riley and Schafer sound like a good fit.[/quote]Well said.

[evilnaturedrobot]

thank you.

[dietlbomb]

Arthur:  The Cornell goal was scored by number ? Riley Nash!
Crowd:  Nash!
A:  Assisted by number 24, Brendon Nash!
C:  Nash!
A:  and number 26, Topher Scott.
C:  Scott!
A;  Time of the goal, 1:21 First Period.
C:  First period!


My prediction...

[evilnaturedrobot]

O'Byrne, Pokulok, Romano...why must the players with fun names to shout leave early?

[Josh '99]

[quote evilnaturedrobot]O'Byrne, Pokulok, Romano...why must the players with fun names to shout leave early?[/quote]We did get four years out of a player whose name sounded like a brand of Canadian beer.  :-D

[ursusminor]

I didn't know that they brew Schaefer in Canada. ;-)

[Ben Rocky '04]

[quote evilnaturedrobot]O'Byrne, Pokulok, Romano...why must the players with fun names to shout leave early?[/quote]

Mike Sancimino played for 4 years.

[sah67]

[quote evilnaturedrobot]O'Byrne, Pokulok, Romano...why must the players with fun names to shout leave early?[/quote]

Along the lines of fun names to shout was Pegs, but with all of Lynah at once, it sometimes came out slightly lisped: "PEGA-WAH-WO!"