Lax 2008

[ugarte]

[quote mttgrmm][quote Josh '99][quote Al DeFlorio][quote redhair34][quote Josh '99]I'm not as concerned about that as about some other things.  We saw both Seibald and Glynn have some success in that area in the NCAAs, and I have to imagine Schmicker will improve with experience.[/quote]

Agreed.  But, you don't want your two best players taking the majority of the faceoffs.  Players expend a ton of energy at the X and it often takes away from their offense.  It's time for Schmicker or someone else to step up.[/quote]
I'm amazed I didn't notice this during the game, but apparently Glynn did nothing in the second half except take faceoffs.  It's impressive that Peyser seems to both take faceoffs and play first midfield for Hopkins.[/quote]I didn't notice that either.  Peyser was something else - seemed like he must've come away with the ball (by a win or a false start by the other guy) like 70% of the time in the final.[/quote]
And they were legit, unlike against Delaware when he was inexplicably allowed to cheat for the entire first quarter. I thought it was ridiculous that the announcers spent so much time lamenting the 'bad day' that the Hens' elite FOGO was having without once mentioning that he was getting a very raw deal from the officials.
it definitely seemed like it... i think he won the first 7 or 8 faceoffs of the game, it was pretty ridiculous.  he was officially 9 of 14 and JHU was 17 of 26[/quote]

[billhoward]

Wasn't Cornell also ranked 8th going into 2007, and Princeton ranked about 4th? At least Inside Lax gives credit to Tambroni getting the most from the players, and noting the impact Canadians have on the game despite being off the recruiting radar.

[billhoward]

From Inside Lacrosse, the earliest 2008 rankings.


If Duke's seniors return (with 2007 record in parenthesis):
1. Duke (17-3)
2. Johns Hopkins (13-4)
3. Virginia (12-4)
4. Georgetown (12-3)
5. Princeton (10-4)
6. North Carolina (10-6)
7. Maryland (10-6)
8. Cornell (15-1)
9. Syracuse (5-8)
10. Navy (11-4)


If Duke's seniors do not return:
1. Johns Hopkins (13-4)
2. Virginia (12-4)
3. Georgetown (12-3)
4. Duke (17-3)
5. Princeton (10-4)
6. North Carolina (10-6)
7. Maryland (10-6)
8. Cornell (15-1)
9. Syracuse (5-8)
10. Navy (11-4)

The thumbnail on Cornell says:

>>> Cornell – The Big Red, after coming within inches of the national championship game in `07, suffer some heavy losses on the offensive side of the ball heading into next season, and graduated a national goalie of the year in Matt McMonagle. But with the tandem of Tewaaraton finalist Max Seibald and John Glynn returning at midfield, and coach Jeff Tambroni's ability to get the most of the talent he has available, expect Cornell to vie for another Ivy League crown in `08.

[ithacat]

The US HS A-As list is out and it looks like a down year for Cornell recruiting. Given Cornell recent success (especially last year's team) this seems surprising.

Assuming I didn't miss anyone, the league looks like this:

Princeton, 5
Harvard, 3
Yale, 3
Brown, 2
Dartmouth, 2
Penn, 2
Cornell, 1 (David Lau)

Other nearby schools:

Syracuse, 9
Albany, 5
Hobart, 5
Colgate, 2
LeMoyne, 2
Binghamton, 1
Cortland State, 1
Ithaca College, 1

http://www.laxpower.com/all-amer/aa-list-hs.php?SelYear=2007&SelSex=B&SelList=AA

[Hillel Hoffmann]

[quote ithacat]The US HS A-As list is out and it looks like a down year for Cornell recruiting.[/quote]

The US Lacrosse All-America list is deeply flawed because of bizarre regional inconsistencies and political bullshit (and Canadians aren't included, of course -- at least two are enrolling). Nevertheless, I think you're right. Even Cornell's most promising prospects among the 2008 freshmen have question marks.

Here's a reason to stay upbeat: There are quite a few All-Americas on that list who are already linked to Cornell for 2009.

[ithacat]

[quote Hillel Hoffmann]Here's a reason to stay upbeat: There are quite a few All-Americas on that list who are already linked to Cornell for 2009.[/quote]

That's encouraging, indeed.
Lang?

[Hillel Hoffmann]

[quote ithacat][quote Hillel Hoffmann]Here's a reason to stay upbeat: There are quite a few All-Americas on that list who are already linked to Cornell for 2009.[/quote]

That's encouraging, indeed.
Lang?[/quote]
It's too early in the admissions process to discuss in detail, but there are a few names on that US Lacrosse All America list that have been publicly linked to Cornell for 2009 on various message boards. Midfielder Roy Lang of St. Ignatius (the same San Francisco prep school that produced the Corbolotti twins) is one of them. Another intriguing one is attackman J.J. Gilbane of Rhode Island -- of Providence's (and Brown's) famous Gilbane families -- a high-scoring two-time US Lacrosse All America who'll be going to Deerfield for a post-graduate year.

[markrosen]

A very informed Canadian fan told me that Mitch McMichael from Whitby, Ontario and the Salisbury School is linked to Cornell, and that Carter Bender from Toronto is seriously interested and will PG at Brewster Academy. An attackman from Taft named Claghorn is also linked.

[ithacat]

According to this list, one Ivy school is doing an outstanding job recruiting. Hint: It's not the one I was hoping it would be. :-(

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=168904

Edit: Here's a nice article about an Ithaca HS student named one of IL's top-25 juniors.

http://www.ithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070817/SPORTS/708170337/1006

[markrosen]

I would not dismiss these lists, but I would not be overly concerned either.  The high school talent is more widespread, and there are still many gems a little under the radar screen.  Cornell has a reputation for finding "blue collar" players, who are still improving and who play together selflessly.  Mitch Belisle, who just graduated, is a good example.  I don't think he would have made a top 200 list as a senior in high school.  He was converted from middie to defense at Cornell, and was named the top defenseman in the country.  Cornell's recruiting classes are routinely branded the second, third or fourth best in the Ivy League by the so=called experts, yet they, not Princeton, have been the strongest team for several years now.

[Al DeFlorio]

According to a posting on laxpower, Cornell will participate in a fall-ball tournament being hosted by Johns Hopkins at Boys Latin school on October 7.

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote Al DeFlorio]According to a posting on laxpower, Cornell will participate in a fall-ball tournament being hosted by Johns Hopkins at Boys Latin school on October 7.[/quote]
Here's the schedule:

Sunday, October 7
Blue Jays Fall Classic
Boys' Latin School
Baltimore, MD

10:00 AM
Johns Hopkins vs. Rutgers
Cornell vs. Ohio State

12:30 PM
Cornell vs. Penn State
Rutgers vs. Ohio State

3:30 PM
Johns Hopkins vs. Penn State

[Josh '99]

[quote Al DeFlorio][quote Al DeFlorio]According to a posting on laxpower, Cornell will participate in a fall-ball tournament being hosted by Johns Hopkins at Boys Latin school on October 7.[/quote]
Here's the schedule:

Sunday, October 7
Blue Jays Fall Classic
Boys' Latin School
Baltimore, MD

10:00 AM
Johns Hopkins vs. Rutgers
Cornell vs. Ohio State

12:30 PM
Cornell vs. Penn State
Rutgers vs. Ohio State

3:30 PM
Johns Hopkins vs. Penn State[/quote]Two games back to back on the same day?  ::wtf::

[ugarte]

[quote Josh '99][quote Al DeFlorio][quote Al DeFlorio]According to a posting on laxpower, Cornell will participate in a fall-ball tournament being hosted by Johns Hopkins at Boys Latin school on October 7.[/quote]
Here's the schedule:

Sunday, October 7
Blue Jays Fall Classic
Boys' Latin School
Baltimore, MD

10:00 AM
Johns Hopkins vs. Rutgers
Cornell vs. Ohio State

12:30 PM
Cornell vs. Penn State
Rutgers vs. Ohio State

3:30 PM
Johns Hopkins vs. Penn State[/quote]Two games back to back on the same day?  ::wtf::[/quote]
For everyone but Hopkins. I wonder how that happened...

[peterg]

Multiple games is typical of fall ball events.  Two years ago CU played Hobart and Hofstra at Hofstra.  Last year I think it was three abreviated games (LeMoyne, Hobart and Syracuse) at the Greaat Pumpkin Stick-Out in Syracuse.  It's exhibition season and with 40+ players the coaches want as much game action as they can get and pack it in on those fall "tourney" days.  The fall "season" is limited and travel resources are very limited, so multiple games on one day makes sense.