NCAA Quarterfinals: Cornell v. Albany (pre-game)

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Another update from the Ithaca Journal...

Notes: Seibald, who hurt his ankle in Saturday's win over Towson, said his injury has improved but he's not 100 percent. His status for Saturday's game is still uncertain. "It's doing alright," he said. "I'm rehabbing it and taking it slow." As to whether he thinks he'll be able to play on Saturday, he said: "I still don't know yet. We're taking it slow and not forcing it."

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[quote saff678]Another update from the Ithaca Journal...

Notes: Seibald, who hurt his ankle in Saturday's win over Towson, said his injury has improved but he's not 100 percent. His status for Saturday's game is still uncertain. "It's doing alright," he said. "I'm rehabbing it and taking it slow." As to whether he thinks he'll be able to play on Saturday, he said: "I still don't know yet. We're taking it slow and not forcing it."
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Paging Willis Reed... Willis Reed to the courtesy phone.

[Robb]

[quote Dpperk29]
no it shouldn't. You would see alot more injuries to goalies. Goalie equipment is designed to protect the goalie and stop the puck, not protect him from a check. Take a goalie helmst for example. The standard design cannot take a rear impact very well. also, chest rpotectors have little to no  padding in the back, another area that gets abused in a check.

Other than injury, I see part of the issue being goalies cannot manuever as sharply as players when they are in an upright skating position, making it much easier to be checked and harder to skate away.

checking goalies is just a bad idea in hockey.[/quote]
That's begging the question.  The REASON hockey goalie equipment is designed that way is because they're not allowed to be checked.  If the rule changed, the equipment would change, and goalies wouldn't get injured.  Not to mention the fact that they'd come out of the crease a lot less.  It would certainly change the game, but I don't believe for a second that injuries would increase.

[heykb]

According to weather.com, there's a 50% chance of rain on Saturday in Princeton.

The last CU lax game I saw was their upset loss to Penn in Philadelphia last year. And it was raining.

In general, my experience has been that Cornell teams are affected more than their opponents when the weather is bad.

I'm still planning on coming; I'll be there rain or shine. My optimism is lessened, though. If there's stuff coming out of the sky, I'm concerned that it's to Albany's advantage.

Karl

[Jacob '06]

[quote heykb]According to weather.com, there's a 50% chance of rain on Saturday in Princeton.

The last CU lax game I saw was their upset loss to Penn in Philadelphia last year. And it was raining.

In general, my experience has been that Cornell teams are affected more than their opponents when the weather is bad.

I'm still planning on coming; I'll be there rain or shine. My optimism is lessened, though. If there's stuff coming out of the sky, I'm concerned that it's to Albany's advantage.

Karl[/quote]

Hey, someone on laxpower is claiming rain is part of the reason that Albany lost to Binghamton, so maybe it can be to our advantage.

[KP '06]

[quote Hillel Hoffmann][quote Josh '99]Is anyone else getting the impression that this Queener guy is the type we'd LOVE to heckle in a hockey game?[/quote]
Yup, but he is just the kind of guy who eats that up. It will have the opposite effect, I guarantee it. He's like Mike Mulligan's steam shovel: The more people who pay attention to him, the more pumped he gets.[/quote]

So you'd recommend the band leave him alone?

[Josh '99]

[quote saff678]Another update from the Ithaca Journal...

Notes: Seibald, who hurt his ankle in Saturday's win over Towson, said his injury has improved but he's not 100 percent. His status for Saturday's game is still uncertain. "It's doing alright," he said. "I'm rehabbing it and taking it slow." As to whether he thinks he'll be able to play on Saturday, he said: "I still don't know yet. We're taking it slow and not forcing it."

http://ithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070517/SPORTS/705170346[/quote]Question for Hillel or someone else who knows lacrosse rules better than I do:  Is there a limit to the number of people who can dress for a lacrosse game?  Is Tambroni going to be forced to decide whether to have Seibald in uniform or some other player who's less talented but more healthy?

[Josh '99]

[quote Hillel Hoffmann][quote Josh '99]Is anyone else getting the impression that this Queener guy is the type we'd LOVE to heckle in a hockey game?[/quote]
Yup, but he is just the kind of guy who eats that up. It will have the opposite effect, I guarantee it. He's like Mike Mulligan's steam shovel: The more people who pay attention to him, the more pumped he gets.[/quote]Are you sure the problem isn't just that it hasn't been the right people "paying attention to him" yet?  I bet Nick Boucher enjoyed the attention right up until the puck went into the net while he was taunting section A.

[Hillel Hoffmann]

[quote KP '06][quote Hillel Hoffmann][quote Josh '99]Is anyone else getting the impression that this Queener guy is the type we'd LOVE to heckle in a hockey game?[/quote]
Yup, but he is just the kind of guy who eats that up. It will have the opposite effect, I guarantee it. He's like Mike Mulligan's steam shovel: The more people who pay attention to him, the more pumped he gets.[/quote]

So you'd recommend the band leave him alone?[/quote]

No way. Pump it up. The band has carte blanche to do whatever they want in service of team and country. The band's support of lacrosse this season has been the stuff of goosebumps, and I hope members have noticed how much the team enjoys it (and has acknowledged so in public).

[redhair34]

[quote Josh '99] Is Tambroni going to be forced to decide whether to have Seibald in uniform or some other player who's less talented but more healthy?[/quote]

I can give you a half-assed answer until Al, Fred, Chris, Hillel et al can clarify.  Perhaps, but not someone who would likely see playing time.

[KeithK]

[quote Robb]That's begging the question.  The REASON hockey goalie equipment is designed that way is because they're not allowed to be checked.  If the rule changed, the equipment would change, and goalies wouldn't get injured.  Not to mention the fact that they'd come out of the crease a lot less.  It would certainly change the game, but I don't believe for a second that injuries would increase.[/quote]
There would presumably be a transtion period after a rule change before the equipment caught up with the rule.

It's also possible that changing goalie equipment to make it more effective against checks would make it less effective for the goal tending role (limiting mobility or some such).  Such a change could have a significant impact on the game.

That said, I think it's just silly to give goalies special privileges when they're out of their goal crease.  If the guy if playing the puck like a skater he should be treated like a skater.

[Jacob '06]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the number of players you can dress is way higher than the number of players that you would use in an important game. Think of all the players that came in for 4th quarter mop up duty or to get a little bit of experience in some of our blowouts. I would almost guarantee Max will be dressed, his playing time is another question.

[BCrespi]

[quote heykb]According to weather.com, there's a 50% chance of rain on Saturday in Princeton.

The last CU lax game I saw was their upset loss to Penn in Philadelphia last year. And it was raining.

In general, my experience has been that Cornell teams are affected more than their opponents when the weather is bad.

I'm still planning on coming; I'll be there rain or shine. My optimism is lessened, though. If there's stuff coming out of the sky, I'm concerned that it's to Albany's advantage.

Karl[/quote]

Very amateur analysis here, but, from what I have seen and read, Albany's offense is very reliant on its transition game.  One would think that a wet, slippery, soggy field would hinder such a style.  I realize that we play a fast-paced transition game as well, but I think we have enough diversity in our style to not be too adversely affected by the conditions.  Am I off-base?

[Hillel Hoffmann]

The only major effect of rain I can think of would be Tambroni's increased reluctance to take risks with Seibald's foot/ankle.

[DeltaOne81]

[quote redhair34][quote Josh '99] Is Tambroni going to be forced to decide whether to have Seibald in uniform or some other player who's less talented but more healthy?[/quote]

I can give you a half-assed answer until Al, Fred, Chris, Hillel et al can clarify.  Perhaps, but not someone who would likely see playing time.[/quote]

I'm honored

My first thought is with Jacob, that the number of players dressed for any given game is way higher than the number you use. Think of the guys we get in in the 4th quarter when its a blowout. They'd never see time otherwise. If you have to chose between Seibald and one of them, its no discussion. The only time you woulda wished you had them is to get a little extra practice in a blow out, a regret I'm sure we'd all love to have.

Its also not like hockey, you're not rolling 4 lines. You're kinda sort rolling two, which are attackmen & offensive middies when you're on offense, and defensemen & defensive middies when you're on D - i.e. each player is really only doing much for half the game.

But it seemed worthwhile to check the rules, which say:

Squad Size
SECTION 2. There is no limit to the number of substitutes a team may have
for each position listed in Section 1 of this rule. (For method of substitution,
see Rules 4-21, 4-22, 4-23 and 4-24.)

For those who are sticklers, Section 1 lists Offense, Midfield, Defense, and Goalkeeper. So that covers it.