New recruit...for Section B that is

Started by sah67, April 30, 2007, 12:23:04 AM

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sah67

Yeah, I know...Big Red Puckhead doesn't have her yet, but I hear she's being scouted intensively for inclusion in Section B next year.

Yoinked from the USCHO Forums

Caution: some mildly off-color language...but nothing anyone on here would mind ;)

Doug '08


peterg

Ah, youth hockey.  Bringing out the best in parents...

How I miss those days.

Dpperk29

[quote peterg]Ah, youth hockey.  Bringing out the best in parents...

How I miss those days.[/quote]

I hope that woman sees the video... I honestly wonder if these parents know how stupid they sound when they do that.

As a referee, parents are the worst part of youth hockey. Players and Coaches can be dealt with because they understand when they cross the line they get a penalty, but at so many rinks, there is no way to stop parents like that who feel like it is a WWF show.

really is a shame...
"That damn bell at Clarkson." -Ken Dryden in reference to his hatred for the Clarkson Bell.

KeithK

The referees (and coaches) should have the authority to toss this type of parent out of the rink and the guts to use that authority.

Dpperk29

[quote KeithK]The referees (and coaches) should have the authority to toss this type of parent out of the rink and the guts to use that authority.[/quote]

we have it, and alot of us use it. the biggest problem is that it really discourages young refs from staying with it. when you get your ass chewed off for blowing an offsides in a mite travel game, it really kills the will of most 13-15 year olds to be refs.

the other problem is parents who won't leave. Puts the ref in a tough spot, is it fair to penalize the coach? is it worth calling the police? where is the rink manager?

One effective strategy is to tell both coaches the game will continue when said parent(s) is/are removed and to take the puck and retire to either the penalty box or the refs room.

it should never come to that though, but it does.
"That damn bell at Clarkson." -Ken Dryden in reference to his hatred for the Clarkson Bell.

ryeguy

Imagine the young kids that are around in the stands as she is yelling this stuff. I'm sure someone stood up and told her to knock it off. The thing that was kind of weird was that she was yelling at her own kid and not a ref or another player. Why was she yelling at him? Was she scared it would make her look bad as a parent? HA! She did enough of that to make both of them look like scumbags. Still obviously very funny! Thanks for posting it here for us.

Still has nothing on when i played in a 'Peewee A' league in Ontario and the parents had a brawl in the lobby following a playoff game. ::rolleyes:: It is all just like the USA hockey commercials (I think it is USA hockey) that show how parents over-react to games. "Relax,it's just a game."

DeltaOne81

[quote ryeguy]Imagine the young kids that are around in the stands as she is yelling this stuff. I'm sure someone stood up and told her to knock it off. The thing that was kind of weird was that she was yelling at her own kid and not a ref or another player. Why was she yelling at him? Was she scared it would make her look bad as a parent?[/quote]

I thought she was yelling at the other kid who was getting into it with her kid.

RichH

[quote ryeguy] It is all just like the USA hockey commercials (I think it is USA hockey) that show how parents over-react to games. "Relax,it's just a game."[/quote]

Both USA Hockey and Hockey Canada had it as a joint campaign.  Actually well done, and a pretty amusing way to get the point across.

http://www.usahockey.com/usa_hockey/main_site/main/usa_hockey/relax//
http://www.hockeycanada.ca/7/4/8/2/index1.shtml
http://www.hockeycanada.ca/7/5/1/5/index1.shtml

redice

This reminds me of some humor sent to me by a friend:

At one point during a game, the coach called one of his 9-year-old baseball players aside and asked, "Do you understand what cooperation is? What a team is?"

The little boy nodded in the affirmative.

"Do you understand that what matters is whether we win or lose together as a team?"

The little boy nodded yes.

"So," the coach continued, "I'm sure you know, when an out is called, you shouldn't argue, curse, attack the umpire, or call him a pecker-head. Do you understand all that?

Again the little boy nodded.

He continued, "And when I take you out of the game so another boy gets a chance to play, it's not good sportsmanship to call your coach 'a dumb ass' is it?"

Again the little boy nodded.

"Good," said the coach. "Now go over there and explain all that to your grandmother".
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

KeithK

To be honest, I think it would be better if parents didn't attend youth games generally.  Kids would probably have more fun and feel less pressure if there wasn't an audience making a big deal out of it.  If they weren't there the parents would have an easier time realizing that it's just a game.

Not being a parent, I can't really understand why you'd want to sit and watcha  bunch of little kids playing a sports at a low level.  Let 'em play and then ask 'em about it over dinner.  Then go play catch or skate with your kid later.  Better bonding than sitting in the stands.

Jacob 03

[quote KeithK]To be honest, I think it would be better if parents didn't attend youth games generally.  Kids would probably have more fun and feel less pressure if there wasn't an audience making a big deal out of it.  If they weren't there the parents would have an easier time realizing that it's just a game.

Not being a parent, I can't really understand why you'd want to sit and watcha  bunch of little kids playing a sports at a low level.  Let 'em play and then ask 'em about it over dinner.  Then go play catch or skate with your kid later.  Better bonding than sitting in the stands.[/quote]Yeah, and why attend your kid's school play or orchestra concert or poetry reading or open house?  After all, they shouldn't be doing all these things for someone else.  They can just come home and tell their parents how it went.

KeithK

[quote Jacob 03]Yeah, and why attend your kid's school play or orchestra concert or poetry reading or open house?  After all, they shouldn't be doing all these things for someone else.  They can just come home and tell their parents how it went.[/quote]
For me, I see a difference between attending an isolated special event (whether concert, playoff game) and attending every last game.  For instance, while I respect the hockey parents who drive hours and hours to catch every game at Lyanh, I think it's kind of crazy.  I think it's a lot easier to lose perspective about a child's sporting event (it's just a game) when you're that invested in it.

Of course, I may feel differently if and when I am ever a parent myself.

To be honest I think there are probably too many hyper-organized activities for kids these days and not enough "go and play'.

ursusminor

[quote KeithK][quote Jacob 03]Yeah, and why attend your kid's school play or orchestra concert or poetry reading or open house?  After all, they shouldn't be doing all these things for someone else.  They can just come home and tell their parents how it went.[/quote]
For me, I see a difference between attending an isolated special event (whether concert, playoff game) and attending every last game.  For instance, while I respect the hockey parents who drive hours and hours to catch every game at Lyanh, I think it's kind of crazy.  I think it's a lot easier to lose perspective about a child's sporting event (it's just a game) when you're that invested in it.

Of course, I may feel differently if and when I am ever a parent myself.

To be honest I think there are probably too many hyper-organized activities for kids these days and not enough "go and play'.[/quote] The parents of RPI's Jake Luthi who live in Alaska stopped working for the 06-07 year and rented a place near Troy so they could watch Jake's entire Senior year.

cth95

[quote KeithK]To be honest, I think it would be better if parents didn't attend youth games generally.  Kids would probably have more fun and feel less pressure if there wasn't an audience making a big deal out of it.  If they weren't there the parents would have an easier time realizing that it's just a game.

Not being a parent, I can't really understand why you'd want to sit and watcha  bunch of little kids playing a sports at a low level.  Let 'em play and then ask 'em about it over dinner.  Then go play catch or skate with your kid later.  Better bonding than sitting in the stands.[/quote]

     I respectfully disagree 100% with you.  I do not have kids yet, but I have a sister who is much younger than me whom I have watched swim, play hockey, and play piano and saxophone in school concerts.  Even with my sister, I am very proud of her and like to just share in the moment.  It is completely different seeing someone than just hearing about it when they come home.  As much as they don't like to say it, I think most kids really do like to have their parents watch them.  I know I would always look for my parents during all of the sports I played growing up, and I would be a little disappointed if I knew they were not going to be able to make it.  

     I think your argument comes from the minority of parents that grab so much attention acting like idiots or like every event is crucial to reaching the NHL or Carnegie Hall.  I see a lot of parents at hockey games before some of my pick up skates, and the vast majority are happy to just watch and root for their kid and the other kids they know.  Even if the level of talent sucks, it is still their kid.  The parents also chat and socialize during these games, so it gives them a chance to hang out with the other parents as well.

     Being able to share the experience of a game as players and spectators is bonding, because the parents and kids invariably talk about the game after.  Beyond that, games often lead to a snack or dinner together on the way home.  I think playing ball in the yard is great bonding, but I also think going to a child's games, concerts, plays, etc. is also great bonding.  Frankly, the parents who never go to any of their kids events seem like they don't care, and rightly or wrongly, I know that their kids,the other kids, and the other parents all will get this impression.