Defections?

Started by Mark Lloyd, March 29, 2007, 02:46:00 PM

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RichH

[quote KeithK]Insert rant about using the designated hitter in college.[/quote]

The National League in MLB is the only league in the world (high school & above) that does not allow a DH in some form today.  High School, college, Cape Cod League, the Olympics, Japanese Leagues, Korean Leagues, Latin American leagues all use the Designated Hitter.  With interleague play, even the NL teams play a significant number of games with it.

I'm not saying I agree one way or another, just stating fact.

KeithK

[quote RichH][quote KeithK]Insert rant about using the designated hitter in college.[/quote]

The National League in MLB is the only league in the world that does not allow a DH in some form today.  High School, college, Cape Cod League, Japanese Leagues, Korean Leagues, Latin American leagues all use the Designated Hitter.  With interleague play, even the NL teams play a significant number of games with it.

I'm not saying I agree one way or another, just stating fact.[/quote]
All of which I am aware of.  Considering those other leagues would just make it a bigger rant.

Damn you Ron Blomberg!

jtwcornell91

[quote KeithK]Insert rant about using the designated hitter in college.[/quote]

The college DH rule is even more extreme than the AL one.  If the starting pitcher bats for himself and is relieved, he's allowed at that point to become the DH.  So the game can start without a DH and then get one later.

I forget what it is, but there's some substitution that ought consistently allowed involving the DH, but isn't.  I think it involves the pitcher pinch-hitting for someone who's not the DH.  If the DH takes a position in the field on defense, that's what effectively happens, right?

jtwcornell91

[quote RichH][quote KeithK]Insert rant about using the designated hitter in college.[/quote]

The National League in MLB is the only league in the world (high school & above) that does not allow a DH in some form today.[/quote]

Are you not counting American Legion as "high school & above"?

RichH

[quote jtwcornell91]Are you not counting American Legion as "high school & above"?[/quote]

Nice try.  I am counting it (I was the official scorekeeper for the NYS American Legion Tournament one year):

http://www.baseball.legion.org/forms/alb_rules2007.pdf

[Q]F. Designated Hitter Rule. All Senior National Tournaments shall use the American League Designated Hitter Rule as published by The Sporting News.


All Junior games, regular and post season play, may use the National High School Federation Designated Hitter Rule, with one exception: The American Legion does not permit re-entry to a game, therefore the DH may not re-enter the game[/Q]


jtwcornell91

WhatWhatWHAT?!?  When did Legion ball start allowing the DH?  It must have happened sometime after 1995.  That's not how we did it back in my day.  And you kids get off my lawn!  ::cuss::

upperdeck

we had a dh back in the late 80's when i played HS ball and legion ball.. but since our pitchers were often our best players we didnt use the DH..

BCrespi

My high school team was probably one of the only teams in baseball history who DH'd for our first baseman depending on the pitcher.  We were...unorthodox.
Brian Crespi '06

hockeyfan10

on the d/l that milo was cut

evilnaturedrobot

[quote hockeyfan10]on the d/l that milo was cut[/quote]

Well that would explain why there are currently 16 (as apposed to the usual 15) forwards slated for next year.

At the same time, it doesn't make alot of sense.  As has been mention earlier in the thread, he's currently playing baseball, so this can't be about an academic or conduct infraction.  And if it's about him playing baseball, well schafer knew that Milo was going to pay two sports before he brought him in.  Why would he change his mind now?

It's a shame if it's true, the kid is talented and I thought he was really starting to put it together down the stretch.

ursusminor

[quote hockeyfan10]on the d/l that milo was cut[/quote] Don't let Bothman hear about that. ::scared:: RPI's Seth Appert received a lot of flack recently from him for cutting two players.

ugarte

[quote ursusminor]RPI's Seth Appert received a lot of flack recently from him for cutting two players.[/quote]
RPI gives scholarships, right? If you cut a kid, you take away his scholarship. That wouldn't be the case here. If the rumor is true, Milo can continue to attend school on the same terms as before (and play baseball).

FWIW, Milo is now 10 for 22 with a SLG of .727 with 2 steals in 2 attempts. He is leading the team in BA and SLG, albeit in a bench role. Maybe he was cut from the hockey team because he wants to make baseball his #1 sport. Even if Schafer accepted that Milo would be a two-sport athlete, hockey would be the top priority. [/speculation]

ursusminor

[quote ugarte][quote ursusminor]RPI's Seth Appert received a lot of flack recently from him for cutting two players.[/quote]
RPI gives scholarships, right? If you cut a kid, you take away his scholarship. That wouldn't be the case here. If the rumor is true, Milo can continue to attend school on the same terms as before (and play baseball).[/quote]


http://www.dailygazette.net/Repository/getFiles.asp?Style=OliveXLib:ArticleToMailGifMSIE&Type=text/html&Path=SCH/2007/04/06&ID=Ar02200&Locale=&ChunkNum=0 [quote Seth Appert]Appert said all scholarship commitments to Cyr and Kipp will be honored should they decide to remain at RPI.[/quote] Of course, it isn't clear if the "commitment" goes past this semester.

Trotsky

Not that it has ever stopped any of us, but it's futile to speculate about the reasons in the absence of even an official announcement that he's gone.  For all we know, the coaching staff is letting him blow off steam and will quietly let him back on the squad later in the summer.  As he is a talented player, I'm hoping this is the case.