Quinnipiac @ Cornell, Game 2 Postgame

Started by Jordan 04, March 10, 2007, 09:45:15 PM

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amerks127

McCutcheon and Kennedy were without question the hardest working players on the ice this weekend.  They were all over the place killing penalties and making things happen offensively.

Mugford's line in general was the strongest, especially in game one (unlike some other lines) showing they truly understood the magnitude of this weekend.

I question taking Salmela off the powerplay the last two weekends and the Scott, Romano, Milo line.  While individually they are good players, that line produced almost nothing nice RPI.  Granted Romano and Scott were injured for some of the season, Schafer still should've recognized that a line shuffle was in order.

Glover was awful, but I'm glad Seminoff was back, he made some key plays on the penalty kill.

Not sure I'll ever forgive Sawada for taking such a dumb, blatant penalty.

See you next year.

amerks127

He was game time Friday night.  Tonight his injury kept him from dressing.

Lower back or body I heard, not really sure.

It had nothing to do with leadership capabilities...in case anyone was wondering,

BCrespi

As maligned as he has been at times on this forum, I can't help but feel terribly for Bitz not being able to skate in the last game of his senior season.  Here's to him realizing all of his potential at the next level.

As for the Sawada hit, and I really didn't see it as many times as I'd like (watching on the webcast), am I the only one who didn't see it as necessarily awful?  I mean, yeah, I do think he hit him in the back/side (similar to the location of the Ryan Hollweg hit on Chris Simon, in my opinion) but the hit took place before the goal line!  I believe they were over 10 feet from the boards when contact was initiated, so I can't necessarily vilify him completely on this one.
Brian Crespi '06

DeltaOne81

[quote BCrespi]
As for the Sawada hit, and I really didn't see it as many times as I'd like (watching on the webcast), am I the only one who didn't see it as necessarily awful?  I mean, yeah, I do think he hit him in the back/side (similar to the location of the Ryan Hollweg hit on Chris Simon, in my opinion) but the hit took place before the goal line!  I believe they were over 10 feet from the boards when contact was initiated, so I can't necessarily vilify him completely on this one.[/quote]

Agreed. The result was bad, but the hit itself was mostly common place. I actually specifically looked during the replay, at the hit occurred right on the goal line (maybe a foot closer to boards, at most). The way the Q player started to lose an edge just before the hit, and the way he fell, looked awful, but it had little to do with the hit itself. 5 minutes was an awfully rough call on that. Real time of course, I understand what the ref saw (or thought he did), but I think if he saw a reply, he may regret the call a little.

ebilmes

[quote DeltaOne81][quote BCrespi]
As for the Sawada hit, and I really didn't see it as many times as I'd like (watching on the webcast), am I the only one who didn't see it as necessarily awful?  I mean, yeah, I do think he hit him in the back/side (similar to the location of the Ryan Hollweg hit on Chris Simon, in my opinion) but the hit took place before the goal line!  I believe they were over 10 feet from the boards when contact was initiated, so I can't necessarily vilify him completely on this one.[/quote]

Agreed. The result was bad, but the hit itself was mostly common place. I actually specifically looked during the replay, at the hit occurred right on the goal line (maybe a foot closer to boards, at most). The way the Q player started to lose an edge just before the hit, and the way he fell, looked awful, but it had little to do with the hit itself. 5 minutes was an awfully rough call on that. Real time of course, I understand what the ref saw (or thought he did), but I think if he saw a reply, he may regret the call a little.[/quote]

I was actually a little surprised Sawada didn't get thrown out. I didn't think it was a malicious hit, but the way the Q player fell made it seem bad.

LynahFaithfulS

[quote BCrespi]As for the Sawada hit [...] am I the only one who didn't see it as necessarily awful?  I mean, yeah, I do think he hit him in the back/side [...] but the hit took place before the goal line!  I believe they were over 10 feet from the boards when contact was initiated, so I can't necessarily vilify him completely on this one.[/quote]
I'm with you on this one.  My seat was (so sad that that's past tense now :`-( ) 1st row in section A, so I saw it pretty well...yeah, it was a rough hit, but like you said, it was pretty far from the boards when it happened...I can see giving him a 2 minutes...maybe...but not 5.

On another penalty related note, what was Seminoff's 10 minute misconduct for???


[quote amerks127] It had nothing to do with [Bitz's] leadership capabilities...[/quote]
^in reference to Bitz not being dressed, for whatever reason--isn't that basically what happened in 2004 with Ryan Vesce--he wasn't able to play after the first quarterfinal game?

LFS

redheadfanatic

I think Ray was also surprised.  He had already walked up the stairs towards the locker room, and an equipment manager had to go get him and tell him to go sit in the box.

Jim Hyla

[quote LynahFaithfulS]On another penalty related note, what was Seminoff's 10 minute misconduct for???[/quote]

When he heard about his penalty, he slammed his stick against the boards right in  front of Feola. Automatic call.::doh::
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

MB

I dunno.  From where I was sitting in A, the Sawada penalty wasn't justified.  The Q player tripped over his own skate, Sawada then ran into him (momentum- he was a foot away from him, couldn't do anything), and both went into the boards.  It all happened really fast, so I can't tell for certain, but it all seemed like an accident.  I'll add more tomorrow when I can put my thoughts down coherently.

Thanks for the good times, Big Red '06-'07.  It was damn fun to cheer you on.

Chris '03

[quote Jim Hyla][quote LynahFaithfulS]On another penalty related note, what was Seminoff's 10 minute misconduct for???[/quote]

When he heard about his penalty, he slammed his stick against the boards right in  front of Feola. Automatic call.::doh::[/quote]

To me that was the dumbest reaction of the night (close to the Mugford taking swings that could have seen him tossed). Having Seminoff out for the whole 5 min penalty kill was tough. Almost survived but it was a tall order. I don't think Jason ever mentioned it on the radio call but he said he thought Romano was heading to the box too so I figured Feola took issue with the crazy stick swing and gave him 2+10.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

upperdeck

im still trying to understand how Mugford got 2 & 2 no QP players did when 2-3 of them thru punches and the first punch that escalated the whole thing was a a pretty good shot to mugfords head that set him off..

considering we spent most of the 3rd on the PK and almost survived it they played well enough to deserve a shot to try and score.. but if they are gonna call the marginal stuff they need to at least call 1-2 of the them the other way. and the barlow non boarding call in the 2nd was much worse than the mahor sowada took but barlow stayed on his feet while the QP kid was gonna hit the boards head first  even if he wasnt touched.

if the ref is gonna blow his whistle on plays in the crease he needs to either work harder to find the puck or make darn sure he knows where it is. we lost one goal and for him to blow the first one dead when the puck was 5 ft behind the goalie on the goal line is really bad...

The Rancor

[quote LynahFaithfulS]


[quote amerks127] It had nothing to do with [Bitz's] leadership capabilities...[/quote]
^in reference to Bitz not being dressed, for whatever reason--isn't that basically what happened in 2004 with Ryan Vesce--he wasn't able to play after the first quarterfinal game?

LFS[/quote]

i was just thinking that.

Pete Godenschwager

[quote Oat][quote sah67]I thought Mugford played a superb game tonight.  And yes, even when he led the charge that started the huge fight ;)[/quote]

Mugford sprinted in and pulled a swim move through 3 Q guys... as Davenport stood and watched quietly from the crease.[/quote]

You really want our starting goaltender, arguably the most important position in all of team sports, to risk a game DQ by getting into a fight?

DeltaOne81

[quote upperdeck]
if the ref is gonna blow his whistle on plays in the crease he needs to either work harder to find the puck or make darn sure he knows where it is. we lost one goal and for him to blow the first one dead when the puck was 5 ft behind the goalie on the goal line is really bad...[/quote]

The one that he blew dead was under the goalie for a good second or two befor he blew the whistle, and *then* it happened to squeak out into the goal. Sorry, that was the right call. It was covered for long enough. If anything, it was a late whistle.

The other one, yes, was a bad whistle, but the Q guy got to it first and appeared to get there in time. It wouldn't've been a goal anyway. Here's a newsflash for you, refs are human, they make mistakes, and whistling a puck dribbling behind a goaltender when the ref is rushing down ice to catch up with an odd-man rush (and the puck dribbles out exactly behind the goaltender from his perspective), well, its just surprising it doesn't happen more often. And as I said, it didn't effect anything.

Cactus12

I agree, from section A, you could see the Q player going down already. The fact that he had a sliding crash into the boards made it seem much worse than it actually was.