Clarkson at Cornell postgame

Started by billhoward, February 02, 2007, 09:08:52 PM

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sah67

Not much to add...just a fantastic game.  Carefoot and Greening were outstanding, and not just because of their goals.  Excellent play from Mugford again too...that kid's gonna put one (or more) in real soon, if not tomorrow.

I'd also disagree with some statements about Scrivens not really being a factor tonight.  He had several good saves, and was definitely tested a bit more than against Colgate, but the blue-liners absolutely had his back tonight, and he seemed to allow fewer positioning mistakes also.  I don't want to say McLeod and Fontas on the PK compensate for the loss of Seminoff, but it doesn't look like we suffered all too much without him tonight...would be great to have him back though!

Clarkson just looked absolutely terrible, and Leggio looked okay at best...Dekanich seemed far better, even when we were outplaying Colgate.

I was really eager to see Clarkson play as I had missed the all-access feed of the Cheel game earlier in the season, and was expecting to see the #8 team in the nation come out flying and kill any motivation we had after the Colgate win.  But they looked tonight like a team that didn't even belong in the polls.

I was also glad that it wasn't just a case of them "playing down" to us, and instead, we were just absolutely red-hot, and completely schooled them.

A high powered offense?  A PPG?  I had to pinch myself a couple times tonight.

sah67

[quote MB]Are you high?  We were damn lucky to come away with a win tonight.  We didn't seem on at all, our first PK unit... well, let's not talk about that.  Actually, let's not talk about our power play units.  We almost gave up a couple of short handed goals.  There was a distinct lack of energy and puck handling.  Our one saving grace was that Clarkson was even less on than we were.

Let's hope our guys find that spark tomorrow night.[/quote]

We were the ones in white and red, not yellow and green.

ithacat

[quote Dpperk29]
Al, lets use the month of january as an example as to why Clarkson is the better team on most nights.

cornell's record: 1-4-2
Clarkson's record: 4-1-3

Tonight, cornell was the better team. Most nights, Clarkson is the better team.[/quote]

Or, let's use the rest of the year, excluding January:
clarkson's record: 12-6-1
Cornell's record: 10-4-1

Clarkson didn't bring their best game to night. Too bad.

Dpperk29

[quote DeltaOne81][quote Dpperk29]
Al, lets use the month of january as an example as to why Clarkson is the better team on most nights.

cornell's record: 1-4-2
Clarkson's record: 4-1-3

Tonight, cornell was the better team. Most nights, Clarkson is the better team.[/quote]

Fine (not speaking for Al), but you still came on here and your first comment was about how your team is really better anyway. "Just remember, we're still better". Not particularly classy.[/quote]

I've never really claimed to be classy. My post game posts are just streams of thought usually, there isn;t much attention paid to what order to say things. Tonight, all I can think is "We are better than them... we really are better than them".

I'll work on it next time
"That damn bell at Clarkson." -Ken Dryden in reference to his hatred for the Clarkson Bell.

sah67

[quote Dpperk29][quote Al DeFlorio][quote Dpperk29]I'm not going to say the better team won because I honestly think Clarkson is a better team on most nights.[/quote]
You've been taking lessons from RichS, pal, I regret to say.

Look, your heroes managed three shots on goal in the third period and OT in a tied game against Cornell on your home ice.  Tonight they improved to a whopping four.  Get lost.[/quote]

Al, lets use the month of january as an example as to why Clarkson is the better team on most nights.

cornell's record: 1-4-2
Clarkson's record: 4-1-3

Tonight, cornell was the better team. Most nights, Clarkson is the better team.[/quote]

Let's use history instead.

Cornell's record against Clarkson: 51-47-10
Tonight, Cornell was the better team.  PERIOD.

calgARI '07

[quote MB]Are you high?  We were damn lucky to come away with a win tonight.  We didn't seem on at all, our first PK unit... well, let's not talk about that.  Actually, let's not talk about our power play units.  We almost gave up a couple of short handed goals.  There was a distinct lack of energy and puck handling.  Our one saving grace was that Clarkson was even less on than we were.

Let's hope our guys find that spark tomorrow night.[/quote]

Can't say I agree with anything you said.  They probably weren't four goals better than Clarkson tonight but I think it's pretty safe to say they were better in every facet of the game.  They made some mistakes, but the game wasn't even close.  This was one of Cornell's best games of the season and unquestionably their best game at Lynah this year.

Dpperk29

[quote sah67][quote Dpperk29][quote Al DeFlorio][quote Dpperk29]I'm not going to say the better team won because I honestly think Clarkson is a better team on most nights.[/quote]
You've been taking lessons from RichS, pal, I regret to say.

Look, your heroes managed three shots on goal in the third period and OT in a tied game against Cornell on your home ice.  Tonight they improved to a whopping four.  Get lost.[/quote]

Al, lets use the month of january as an example as to why Clarkson is the better team on most nights.

cornell's record: 1-4-2
Clarkson's record: 4-1-3

Tonight, cornell was the better team. Most nights, Clarkson is the better team.[/quote]

Let's use history instead.

Cornell's record against Clakson: 51-47-10
Tonight, Cornell was the better team.  Most nights, Cornell is the better team.[/quote]

hell, lets just use all time winning percentage...
.657 Clarkson the best in college hockey.
I can;t even find cornell's but it is less than clarkson's

Clarkson is the best on most nights.
"That damn bell at Clarkson." -Ken Dryden in reference to his hatred for the Clarkson Bell.

cth95

[quote calgARI '07][quote MB]Are you high?  We were damn lucky to come away with a win tonight.  We didn't seem on at all, our first PK unit... well, let's not talk about that.  Actually, let's not talk about our power play units.  We almost gave up a couple of short handed goals.  There was a distinct lack of energy and puck handling.  Our one saving grace was that Clarkson was even less on than we were.

Let's hope our guys find that spark tomorrow night.[/quote]

Can't say I agree with anything you said.  They probably weren't four goals better than Clarkson tonight but I think it's pretty safe to say they were better in every facet of the game.  They made some mistakes, but the game wasn't even close.  This was one of Cornell's best games of the season and unquestionably their best game at Lynah this year.[/quote]

MB is probably just trying to bait us.  Especially since we scored 5 goals despite Leggio robbing 3 or 4 more great chances.  So Clarkson scores a couple more and we convert a couple of those, we still win 7-3 or something like that.  There is a lot of room for error to maintain a win with a 4-goal advantage.

sah67

Didn't your mom teach you anything about sore losers?  We get your point, as inane as it may be.  Go worry about Colgate...I've been hearing good things about that Burton kid, and Dekanich is going to be a handful.

Dpperk29

[quote sah67]Didn't your mom teach you anything about sore losers?  We get your point, as inane as it may be.  Go worry about Colgate...I've been hearing good things about that Burton kid, and Dekanich is going to be a handful.[/quote]

if it is such an inane point, then why did you bother replying to it?
"That damn bell at Clarkson." -Ken Dryden in reference to his hatred for the Clarkson Bell.

sah67

[quote Dpperk29]

if it is such an inane point, then why did you bother replying to it?[/quote]

I know you are but what am I?  *sigh* I'm done with this nonsense...you can have the last word if you deem it necessary.

Jim Hyla

[quote Dpperk29]I'm not going to say the better team won because I honestly think Clarkson is a better team on most nights. Cornell can take a game from any team on any night, making cornell a very dangerous team.

Good win guys, your team earned it.[/quote]Of course you're not going to say the better team won. Why should you, we beat you decisively at home and tied you, could have won, on the road. Even your coach said on the pregame that Clk was lucky, or something to that effect, with the first game.

Sure we had a sucking Jan, and yes we're not a great team, I've always said we would do well to get a top 4 finish; but we took 3 points from our games with you, so what does that make you?

I'm always surprised when someone who has lost comes on and states the best team didn't win. What do you expect us to say, we agree? I give all of us a lot of credit for putting up stats to defend, and not getting into a flamefest. Good job guys.
Quotethe reason Bitz got a penalty was each player gets one shove. The clarkson player took his shove, Bitz took two shoves... the guy who keeps it going gets the penalty.
Wow, you're going to have to show me the rule about this. I would say that it is often that the retaliation gets the call, but honestly I yelled at that call since you took the first blow to our head, and then Bitz came in. He just missed the call, pure and simple. Unfortunately Bitz should know better especially after he got similar call in prior game.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Robb

[quote Dpperk29]Clarkson is the best on most nights.[/quote]

As long as it's not a game that means much.  Playoff elimination games:

Postseason vs. Clarkson:
Cornell 18-8-1 (even giving Clarkson credit for that stupid minigame)

Elimination Games vs. Clarkson:
Cornell 12-5 (including the 1970 NCAA game and also giving Cornell a point for the tie that gave Cornell the first-to-3-points series win in 1989, and Clarkson getting a point for the minigame)

Isn't it nice that we both get to think our team's tradition, history, and records are better?
Let's Go RED!

Trotsky

Neither Clarkson poster is being a sore loser; in fact, if anything, a few people on this thread are being poor winners.  Both congratulated Cornell for being the better team tonight and deserving the win.  What do you want, them to convert to being Cornell fans? ::rolleyes::  Au contraire, they showed much more class than most of us do under similar circumstances.

Great win tonight, and Cornell seems to be putting it together at the right time of year.  Clarkson came in something like 16-6-3, and that's well beyond "you got lucky sometimes" territory -- they're a legitimate conference contender.

I hope Cornell plays well tomorrow -- we seemed to match up with the Knights much better than with the Saints in the North Country this year, and SLU just got their heads handed to them last night in Hamilton which means they will be royally pissed off.

Jacob '06

I think Cornell just plays a good counter to Clarkson's style. Barring the series that never happened, we have played them very very well in the recent past.