Dartmouth AD apology

[Townie]

What about the "Fighting Irish"?  How come Irish people don't make a stink?  Is is because:

a) They like being identified as a strong, proud, self-reliant people;
b) Their sense of pride and responsibility won't let them capitalize on being victims;
c) They're sensible enough to realize it's just a freakin' name!

To me, the height of hypocracy is singing, in your native language, the national anthem of a nation that murdered, betrayed and disposessed your ancestors.  In your native language??

This is just too sick....

[Roy 82]

[quote Townie]What about the "Fighting Irish"?  How come Irish people don't make a stink?  Is is because:

a) They like being identified as a strong, proud, self-reliant people;
b) Their sense of pride and responsibility won't let them capitalize on being victims;
c) They're sensible enough to realize it's just a freakin' name!

To me, the height of hypocracy is singing, in your native language, the national anthem of a nation that murdered, betrayed and disposessed your ancestors.  In your native language??

This is just too sick....[/quote]

How dare they sing our national anthem in their native American language. Let's send them shameless stupid lazy injuns back where they came from.::smashfreak::

[billhoward]

[quote jtwcornell91][quote KeithK]This statement makes me want to fly to Hanover and cheer for the Sioux and the Dartmouth Indians.[/quote]

Why not the Miami Redskins for good measure?[/quote]

If it's the University of Miami, that was changed to the Miami Redshirts.

[billhoward]

The one-side nature of the Dartmouth missive may not go down well with older alumni who've finally adjusted to the (1970s?) changeover to Big Green. It could have added something along the lines of "we recognize the right to choose nicknames, understand there's controversy, blah blah, and in the meantime we register our concern about friction caused by the nicknames and the pain it may cause."

Not sure what happens were Dartmouth to wind up playing a school that has approval of their local Indian group. Does Dartmouth substitute its wisdome and declare them to be misguided?

[Dpperk29]

redhawks I thought?

[Beeeej]

[quote billhoward]The one-side nature of the Dartmouth missive may not go down well with older alumni who've finally adjusted to the (1970s?) changeover to Big Green. It could have added something along the lines of "we recognize the right to choose nicknames, understand there's controversy, blah blah, and in the meantime we register our concern about friction caused by the nicknames and the pain it may cause."[/quote]

The changeover to "Big Green" was in the early 90s.

And there are plenty of older alumni who are still ticked at Dartmouth for going co-ed in the 1970s.  Something tells me this particular missive isn't going to ruffle any older alumni feathers that aren't already pretty ruffled.

[schoaff]

[quote billhoward]The one-side nature of the Dartmouth missive may not go down well with older alumni[/quote]

Well, that's pretty much the reaction in my household. My wife is Dartmouth '90 and when she heard about this she sent Dartmouth a nastygram and started telling her alumna friends about it.

This year Dartmouth was so concerned that non-politically correct candidates (i.e. people who run businesses for profit) for their board of trustees were winning that they tried to change their constitution so candidates for trustee had to be approved by the current board. (Currently they can "force" their way onto the ballot by collecting enough signatures.) Well after a long campaign where we got nightly calls from the "Vote Yes for the New Constitution" organizations the new constitution was rejected. We've heard that some of the supporters of the new constitution have been acting a bit petulant and this may be related to that.

[billhoward]

According to the World Wide Web, so it must be true, the Dartmouth changeover from Indians to Big Green was 1968-69, 1972, or 1974. It may be the various dates relate to the name change vs. the logo change.

[jtwcornell91]

[quote Dpperk29]redhawks I thought?[/quote]

*whoosh*

[RatushnyFan]

In a related story, today the Dartmouth AD apologized for the hockey team's performance from 1980-2000.

[Dpperk29]

[quote jtwcornell91][quote Dpperk29]redhawks I thought?[/quote]

*whoosh*[/quote]

yup... I shouldn't post until I am fully awake

[jtwcornell91]

[quote Beeeej]
The changeover to "Big Green" was in the early 90s.
[/quote]

I'm 100% sure they were already the Big Green when I (and you!) arrived on the Hill in 1987.

[Beeeej]

[quote jtwcornell91][quote Beeeej]
The changeover to "Big Green" was in the early 90s.
[/quote]

I'm 100% sure they were already the Big Green when I (and you!) arrived on the Hill in 1987.[/quote]

So it would seem.  Not sure why it seemed such a good idea, then, when I was P.A. announcer for the marching band 1991-93, to base most of the halftime show announcements for one game on proposed alternatives to "Big Green."

Could've just been the booze.

[TimV]

To quote jtwcornell91:

*woosh*

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

[quote jtwcornell91][quote Beeeej]
The changeover to "Big Green" was in the early 90s.
[/quote]

I'm 100% sure they were already the Big Green when I (and you!) arrived on the Hill in 1987.[/quote]

Yep, and by '78 as well.