Big Win for Men's B-Ball!!!

KeithK · February 05, 2007, 12:08:44 PM

[quote Al DeFlorio]What's really disappointing is that Columbia crushed Harvard by 20 the night before, and Harvard could no longer play their top scorer and rebounder, who had run out of eligibility for this weekend's games.[/quote]How does a players eligibility run out midway through the season like this? I thought eligibility was counted in seasons, not games (apparently I'm wrong).

nyc94 · February 05, 2007, 12:27:33 PM

[quote KeithK][quote Al DeFlorio]What's really disappointing is that Columbia crushed Harvard by 20 the night before, and Harvard could no longer play their top scorer and rebounder, who had run out of eligibility for this weekend's games.[/quote]How does a players eligibility run out midway through the season like this? I thought eligibility was counted in seasons, not games (apparently I'm wrong).[/quote]

Harvard is just getting around to starting the second semester so I could see how there is a line here. I certainly recall hearing about players losing eligibilty midseason due to first semester grades. Is this guy a transfer? Maybe he transfered mid-year so his eligibility calendar is off.

Al DeFlorio · February 05, 2007, 06:59:33 PM

[quote nyc94]Harvard is just getting around to starting the second semester so I could see how there is a line here. I certainly recall hearing about players losing eligibilty midseason due to first semester grades. Is this guy a transfer? Maybe he transfered mid-year so his eligibility calendar is off.[/quote]
I think eligibility is measured in semesters. Ugo I?

?? on the Cornell basketball team will run out of eligibility after the fall semester next season. I think I read recently that he has chosen NOT to play with the team in the fall for the half-season. Prepping for med school, I think.

Thought I read that the Harvard kid was a 7-footer. Had lots of points and rebounds per game.

Chris '03 · February 06, 2007, 11:31:25 AM

Freshman Alex ~~Taylor~~ Tyler was named Ivy rookie of the week.This makes the TENTH time this season the award has gone to a Cornellian (Wittman 5, Dale 4). There have been 11 winners this season. Cornell was off the week they didn't have the winner.

Looks like things are headed in the right direction!

EDIT: I knew I should have just used cut and paste...

bandit1 · February 06, 2007, 04:26:53 PM

It's called graduation....In the Ivy League if you don't have a reason to be in school academically, you don't get to play.

BCrespi · February 06, 2007, 05:07:55 PM

Just because one has completed his graduation requirements, does that mean he has to leave school? I don't feel like that is the case. If I hadn't applied to graduate, so long as I kept paying my tuition, wouldn't I have been allowed to stay and take more courses? Am I totally off-base here?

KeithK · February 06, 2007, 06:33:03 PM

[quote bandit1]It's called graduation....In the Ivy League if you don't have a reason to be in school academically, you don't get to play.[/quote]Maybe so. But I'd expect that if the kid had graduated then the cornellbigred.com blurb would have said "Harvard was playing its first game without leading scorer and rebounder Brian Cusworth, who graduated after the fall semester" rather than "...who exhausted his eligibility after the fall semester." Now maybe that's expecting a little too much of the Cornell SID [gratuitous dig] but I'm just saying...

CornellFan · February 06, 2007, 06:34:37 PM

Actually, his name is Alex Tyler.

Against Harvard, four Cornell freshmen combined for 47 points-- Dale 15 pts, Tyler 14 pts, Wittman 12 points, and rapidly developing Geoff Reeves with 6 points. The night before against Dartmouth, Reeves had a career high 7 points. He is still recovering from a major injury. Alex Tyler had 14 pts, Wittman 14 points, Dale 9 points.

Four freshmen leading the way of a team 4-2 in the Ivy and with an overall winning record AND without Adam Gore and Jason Hartford-- not to mention our USC transfer Collin Robinson and seven footer Jeff Foote from St. Bona.

This team will be a force next year. Get on the bandwagon before it leaves.

saff678 · February 06, 2007, 06:48:17 PM

Quote from: The Harvard CrimsonThe fifth-year senior from St. Louis finished his eighth semester and his Harvard degree in biology this January, rendering him ineligible, as a midyear graduate, to play for the Crimson during the second term.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=516686

bandit1 · February 07, 2007, 12:35:34 PM

Keith K, Harvard should have mentioned he graduated but for whatever reason did not. There are no automatic fifth years in this league. Makes it tough when a student misses an entire season due to injury but is on target to graduate on time.

bandit1 · February 07, 2007, 12:38:42 PM

Wittman, Dale, and Reeves are fantastic young talent for the Big Red...Jeff Foote, although tall is unproven and Hartford has been here for 2 years, leaving him in need of? You guessed it a 5th year.

Robb · February 07, 2007, 02:14:24 PM

[quote bandit1]Keith K, Harvard should have mentioned he graduated but for whatever reason did not. There are no automatic fifth years in this league. Makes it tough when a student misses an entire season due to injury but is on target to graduate on time.[/quote]
The Ivy League *generally* allows medical redshirts, but you still have to petition for them on a case-by-case basis. See Auger, Vinnie.

ugarte · February 08, 2007, 10:52:51 PM

[quote Robb][quote bandit1]Keith K, Harvard should have mentioned he graduated but for whatever reason did not. There are no automatic fifth years in this league. Makes it tough when a student misses an entire season due to injury but is on target to graduate on time.[/quote]
The Ivy League *generally* allows medical redshirts, but you still have to petition for them on a case-by-case basis. See Auger, Vinnie.[/quote]
And couldn't you continue playing by going to grad school? I seem to remember the RB Oliaro (sp?) doing that, right?

bandit1 · February 09, 2007, 03:26:51 PM

ugarte, only if the student-athlete graduates early would they be able to compete as a graduate student...note Kevin Rooney (football) graduated in 4 years, but still had a year of eligibility. He was not able to compete as a grad student..

Robb · February 10, 2007, 11:04:39 AM

[quote bandit1]ugarte, only if the student-athlete graduates early would they be able to compete as a graduate student...note Kevin Rooney (football) graduated in 4 years, but still had a year of eligibility. He was not able to compete as a grad student..[/quote]

Yep - the Ivy League wants you to use your 4 years of eligibility in the first 4 years after your initial matriculation date. Competing in your 5th year of "higher education" is (generally, exceptions can be petitioned) a no-no, regardless of whether you're registered as a grad or undergrad in your 5th year.