How crazy would this have been?

Started by andyw2100, March 28, 2006, 09:31:28 PM

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Liz '05

[quote Jerseygirl]To continue this completely absurd topic, would Louis get to keep his goalie skates or have to switch to regular ones? I ask because I used to work with a former Cornell goalie who was so used to skating in goalie skates for the last decade, he literally couldn't skate on regular hockey skates. So there's that aspect to consider.[/quote]

I didn't realize there was a difference - care to elaborate?

Winnabago

[quote Liz '05][quote Jerseygirl]To continue this completely absurd topic, would Louis get to keep his goalie skates or have to switch to regular ones? I ask because I used to work with a former Cornell goalie who was so used to skating in goalie skates for the last decade, he literally couldn't skate on regular hockey skates. So there's that aspect to consider.[/quote]

I didn't realize there was a difference - care to elaborate?[/quote]

IIRC, goalie skates are shorter - your foot is closer to the ice, and there is little or no arc along the length of the blade, much like speed skaters'.  I believe this allows easier 'skimming' from side to side.
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Jerseygirl

Regular skates:
http://www.hockeygiant.com/bau5vapviisktsr.html

Goalie skates:
http://www.hockeygiant.com/bau047kglsktsr.html

Goalie skates have a wider blade and are less curved, with a sharper nub on each end. I guess that this is because goalies have to do less high speed precision work and more traction and gripping the ice with their skates work.

Give My Regards

All seriousness aside... Mitch Carefoot went out with an injury in the second or third period (I can't recall when), and although there was speculation that he had some kind of concussion, when he came back on the ice well into overtime, I recall thinking, "you know, he's the freshest guy out there..."
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Liz '05

Very interesting - thanks, Jerseygirl and Winnebago.  I'm an awful skater, which is how I ended up playing goalie for intramurals, but I'd always kinda wondered how the goalies got up and around so quickly...

billhoward

[quote Section A Banshee]I'm curious what made you think a second-string goaltender, even a well-watered and refreshed one, could get past the Wisconsin defense when four lines of skaters could not.  They were worn out, not rotting corpses.

Now, Ron Hextall, maybe... :-D[/quote]

Dryden played defense in college, you know ... while in law school, on pickup teams.

If ever there's another hockey version of Midgets in the Outfield ... you've got something in script stage already, at least two paragraphs worth.

"Well watered" would be Leggio of Clarkson. We should probably install a spigot at the west end goal for the lad. You hit him hard in the stomach with a strong wrister and he'd probably wet his shorts. I know exercize gurus say to keep yourself well hydrated, but everything has a limit. (I can see a sign in Lynah where Section A keeps taping water bottle silhouettes as he drinks up.)

To answer Andy's subject line: What comes atop "crazy"?

ugarte

[quote billhoward][quote Section A Banshee]I'm curious what made you think a second-string goaltender, even a well-watered and refreshed one, could get past the Wisconsin defense when four lines of skaters could not.  They were worn out, not rotting corpses.

Now, Ron Hextall, maybe... :-D[/quote]

Dryden played defense in college, you know ... while in law school, on pickup teams.

If ever there's another hockey version of Midgets in the Outfield ... you've got something in script stage already, at least two paragraphs worth.

"Well watered" would be Leggio of Clarkson. We should probably install a spigot at the west end goal for the lad. You hit him hard in the stomach with a strong wrister and he'd probably wet his shorts. I know exercize gurus say to keep yourself well hydrated, but everything has a limit. (I can see a sign in Lynah where Section A keeps taping water bottle silhouettes as he drinks up.)

To answer Andy's subject line: What comes atop "crazy"?[/quote]And another thread likely meets its inscrutible end...

Lauren '06

[quote billhoward][quote Section A Banshee]I'm curious what made you think a second-string goaltender, even a well-watered and refreshed one, could get past the Wisconsin defense when four lines of skaters could not.  They were worn out, not rotting corpses.

Now, Ron Hextall, maybe... :-D[/quote]

Dryden played defense in college, you know ... while in law school, on pickup teams. [/quote]
All right, well, the point I was trying to make might be better illustrated by this hypothetical question: in a game situation, Cornell player vs. two tired Wisconsin defenders and Brian Elliott, who would you rather have with the puck?

A) Evan Barlow, with six periods of fatigue, a parched throat, seized-up shoulder muscles, dislocated jaw, and two fingers missing from his right hand

or

B) Louis Chabot

Call me crazy, but I'd still choose A.

cth95

I almost always play goalie.  If I haven't skated out in a few months, it always takes me at least a couple of shifts to get the feel for the sharper, rockered player skates.  They are far more maneuverable in the sense that they turn much tighter and the blades are much sharper.  The goal skate has a long, flat blade which is stable and easy to slide side-to-side on, but not very good for making sharp cuts, especially on hard ice.  I also tend to be more on the balls of my feet in the ready position as a goaltender, so when I start to skate out I tend to start to fall forward until I get used to regular skates again since the blade curves up and does not offer as much support on a player skate.  I also tend to catch the edges on player skates since they are sharper.  This is kind of like the long vs. short and straight vs. shaped ski discussions some of us had.  

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,84822,84948#msg-84948

Of course for Louis to play, he would have to have a full set of player pads and helmet and the right size skates available.  I'm sure the team has extra gear at all times, but it might be tough to find skates with a good fit.

Robb

[quote billhoward] What comes atop "crazy"?[/quote]
Tyler Hirsh?  (Ok, ok - cheap shot, I know)  ;-)
Let's Go RED!

ftyuv

And also, how much experience with a regular stick does he have?  If it's not much, as I suspect, that could lead to him missing a lot of passes, which in turn would mean a lot of turnovers, which in turn would mean our players would have to spend a lot more time chasing UW down the ice and getting even more tired.  So even from a freshness point of view, it could backfire.

Now, if Schafer made a quick call to the University and got himself admitted to a master's program so that he could play on the team as a Cornell student, then maybe you'd have something :)  I would only worry that his frail old bones could quickly turn our "Kill Schafer Kill!" into UW's "Kill Schafer! Kill Schafer!"

RichH

Or better yet...

Since this Regional Final OT thing is getting to be a habit, how about Schafer recognized the flow of the game would be a grudge match by early in the 3rd.  He sits someone...let's say McCutcheon and double shifts a guy like Mugford or Barlow.    By the last 5 minutes of the 2nd OT, when everyone on the ice is sucking for air, out comes a fresher McClutcheon!  To power past all the sluggish and weak Badgers!  Ridiculously risky to assume you make it that far, of course, but not as crazy as having Chabot lace 'em up.  :-)

...........

Now what if Da Big Red were to enter the Indianapolis 500? Uhhh, what would you predict would be the outcome, huh?

How would they compete?

Well, let's say they rode together in a big bus.

Is Schafer driving?

Of course.

Yeah, I gotta go with Da Big Red Bus!

Lauren '06

[quote RichH]Or better yet...

Since this Regional Final OT thing is getting to be a habit, how about Schafer recognized the flow of the game would be a grudge match by early in the 3rd.  He sits someone...let's say McCutcheon and double shifts a guy like Mugford or Barlow.    By the last 5 minutes of the 2nd OT, when everyone on the ice is sucking for air, out comes a fresher McClutcheon!  To power past all the sluggish and weak Badgers!  Ridiculously risky to assume you make it that far, of course, but not as crazy as having Chabot lace 'em up.  :-)

...........

Now what if Da Big Red were to enter the Indianapolis 500? Uhhh, what would you predict would be the outcome, huh?

How would they compete?

Well, let's say they rode together in a big bus.

Is Schafer driving?

Of course.

Yeah, I gotta go with Da Big Red Bus![/quote]
But what about Da Big Red versus a hurricane?  Wait, wait... the hurricane is named Hurricane Da Big Red.

I am amazed this thread got past three replies.  Must be the offseason.

ugarte

[quote Section A Banshee]Must be the offseason.[/quote]Sigh.