Cornell vs. RPI 1/7/23

[coz]

Effective special teams are a necessity when we get deep into the tourneys, though, because the great teams will find a way to exploit weakness there, and then that will live in our heads and affect our game style.

I meant as more of an either or choice but yeah I obviously want our PP to be good. I'm just dubious that it is.

[Trotsky]

Effective special teams are a necessity when we get deep into the tourneys, though, because the great teams will find a way to exploit weakness there, and then that will live in our heads and affect our game style.

I meant as more of an either or choice but yeah I obviously want our PP to be good. I'm just dubious that it is.

The puck movement and tempo are solid against weak teams, but it evaporates against tough ones.

[coz]

Effective special teams are a necessity when we get deep into the tourneys, though, because the great teams will find a way to exploit weakness there, and then that will live in our heads and affect our game style.

I meant as more of an either or choice but yeah I obviously want our PP to be good. I'm just dubious that it is.

The puck movement and tempo are solid against weak teams, but it evaporates against tough ones.

They've had games where they can't even get the puck in the zone let alone set up. I know they've looked better recently, but the schedule has been charmin soft.

I also think that except when Barron was here I've never felt truly confident in the PP. He was a weapon who bent the shape of opposing PKs and opened up space for both himself and his teammates. We have a lot of good skilled players, but no one currently that the other team constantly has to be aware of. EDIT: Rego seems to think he's that guy sometimes but I don't think he is.

[Trotsky]

"That guy" is supposed to be Berard.

The last time we had a dominating power play was the Gallagher-Greening juggernaut.  We have been flailing about since then, without consistency.  It's certainly been a missing piece.

I love that we give and go now and don't always retreat behind the net.  As you said, we had been getting trapped trying to move out by aggressive forechecks because we gave the opponent time to set up.  We have been moving skates and getting out faster and you can see it really freaks out some teams, while others just join the battle.  It makes for much better hockey to watch.

This is a much more fun team to watch than some Schafer teams of the past who had an even higher winning percentage.

[coz]

"That guy" is supposed to be Berard.

The last time we had a dominating power play was the Gallagher-Greening juggernaut.  We have been flailing about since then, without consistency.  It's certainly been a missing piece.

I love that we give and go now and don't always retreat behind the net.  As you said, we had been getting trapped trying to move out by aggressive forechecks because we gave the opponent time to set up.  We have been moving skates and getting out faster and you can see it really freaks out some teams, while others just join the battle.  It makes for much better hockey to watch.

This is a much more fun team to watch than some Schafer teams of the past who had an even higher winning percentage.

Vanderlaan and Angello's freshman year seemed like the catalyst or the first part of change in direction, that maybe not all offense is bad, just opponents offense.

[ursusminor]

"That guy" is supposed to be Berard.

Connor Bedard isn't eligible. :-P

[abmarks]

Effective special teams are a necessity when we get deep into the tourneys, though, because the great teams will find a way to exploit weakness there, and then that will live in our heads and affect our game style.

Our pk is phenomenal even after the 3 goal major pk Saturday.  We're 3rd in the country at 90.6% behind only Dartmouth and Ohio State who are tied with 90.9%.

Plus we're ranked around 15th for fewest pim/g

[upprdeck]

I think one issue being over looked is that we have been having a new guy injured like every week it seemed.  And swapping guys in and out of things like the PP are never good..  If the lineup of the core guys stays steady for awhile it probably helps

[BearLover]

The problem with the offense, especially on the power play, is a lack of playmaking ability and vision. Positionally we are fine, we have guys who can get to the net and we have guys who can shoot it. Physically we can hold on to the puck. And we can run plays to get guys open in the slot and backdoor. But there is is so much fluidity in hockey, so many unpredictable variables, and we do not have the vision or creativity to make plays on the fly. This comes up on fast breaks, on exploiting defensive breakdowns, and all the time on the power play where there is always time and space and an open man. Other than Andreev and DeSantis, I haven't seen much creativity and vision this year. That's nothing new for a Cornell team; there haven't been too many Ryan Vesces, Riley Nashes, or Cam Donaldsons over the years. But the difference is stark when you compare the crispness of our passing and the quickness of our decisionmaking with that of Harvard. Our passes all take a split second longer to get off, they're all a little less on the tape. There are other ways to score, but they're going to be tougher and dirtier than tic-tac-toe.

[dbilmes]

I think one issue being over looked is that we have been having a new guy injured like every week it seemed.  And swapping guys in and out of things like the PP are never good..  If the lineup of the core guys stays steady for awhile it probably helps

That's a good point. Even though he's not having a great season, I'd rather see Stienburg getting regular ice time, for example, than someone like Kovich.

[Trotsky]

I think one issue being over looked is that we have been having a new guy injured like every week it seemed.

Half the time that guy is Stienburg. Very few players have been as hampered by so many different injuries.

But we did get through an entire weekend without anybody getting hurt.  Baby steps.

[upprdeck]

is creativity the real issue on the PP..  I saw a ton of nice plays this weekend on the PP.  Not that the all lead to goals or chances.  But we passed around very little, we changed direction, we swapped spots.. we went back door we went cross ice, we passed thru the middle.

Again how much of any PP success is good offense vs bad defense? without comparing puck movement to other teams, which very few watch outside of our own games, how do we know ours is bad.   We have several games with great movement and chances and no scores, sometimes we miss chances and sometimes the D makes a good play and sometimes its us being bad, and sometimes the goalie just makes a good save. ..  Great movement doesnt always mean the goalie is not going to do his job.

[ugarte]

On creativity and movement i like what i see so far from bancroft, seger and, tbh, o'leary who i am surprised sits as much as he does. Andreev would be better if he tried to do less himself and used his skating to set up passes but this has been true for years and imo his injuries have really hurt his development.

[abmarks]

Other than Andreev and DeSantis, I haven't seen much creativity and vision this year

Bancroft has made some slick, creative passes.  He's one to watch creativity wise