2022 ECAC Permutations

Started by Give My Regards, February 21, 2022, 04:45:43 PM

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RichH

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Quote from: upprdeckhow much would the pairwise change if H2h actually was the main thing for comparing teams that have played each other.. the way it works now you could beat a team 2-3-4 times in a season and lose the PW compare.
I think if you go 3-0 vs a team, you win the pairwise. look at the H2h for us and NoDak.

Yup. I believe each H2H game counts as a pairwise win. Against NoDak, we are 2-0. We also have the common opponents won, and we are behind in RPI, so we are 3-1 overall.

But since RPI is the tiebreaker, we'd lose the comparison to NoDak if they won common opponent. So basically, to win a comparison against a team that beats you in RPI, you need to go 3-0 against them, or go 2-0 and win or tie common opponents, or go 2-1 or 1-0 and win common opponents.

So it's basically RPI. Right now, it looks like there are two spots in the PWR that differ (by 1) from RPI.

If I ruled the world, I'd either just use RPI or treat tied comparisons as ties without a tiebreaker. Why go through all these headaches when RPI rules? Either weaken its stranglehold on the pairwise or just go with it.

This is pretty much the argument many have made, except using KRACH.

upprdeck

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: nshapiro
Quote from: upprdeckhow much would the pairwise change if H2h actually was the main thing for comparing teams that have played each other.. the way it works now you could beat a team 2-3-4 times in a season and lose the PW compare.
I think if you go 3-0 vs a team, you win the pairwise. look at the H2h for us and NoDak.

Yup. I believe each H2H game counts as a pairwise win. Against NoDak, we are 2-0. We also have the common opponents won, and we are behind in RPI, so we are 3-1 overall.

But since RPI is the tiebreaker, we'd lose the comparison to NoDak if they won common opponent. So basically, to win a comparison against a team that beats you in RPI, you need to go 3-0 against them, or go 2-0 and win or tie common opponents, or go 2-1 or 1-0 and win common opponents.

So it's basically RPI. Right now, it looks like there are two spots in the PWR that differ (by 1) from RPI.

If I ruled the world, I'd either just use RPI or treat tied comparisons as ties without a tiebreaker. Why go through all these headaches when RPI rules? Either weaken its stranglehold on the pairwise or just go with it.

Pretty much my point, we could go 2-0-1 vs Clarkson and not win that Pairwise the way it works.. Im just saying if you beat/play a team shouldnt the h2h really be the decider especially if you beat them more than once..  Quin we are 2-0 and get nothing for it.  we might get a 3rd shot but still. if you have a 2 game advantage on a team the rest should not be deciding the PW.