Looking Ahead

Started by wakester2468, February 08, 2017, 12:27:53 PM

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andyw2100

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: TrotskyIn a game to potentially watch tonight, PWR 8 Lowell is at BC.

Also Miami at UMD.

U Mass Lowell beat BC, and we seem to now be 9th in the pairwise.

Also Miami has tied Minnesota Duluth at 3. Roughly 9 minutes remaining in the third. Free audio here: https://network1sports.com/station/kqds

Edit: Minnesota Duluth homer announcer flipping out about the officiating!

Edit 2 - UMD scored on a powerplay, with 1:24 left.

Edit 3: It ends 4-3 UMD over Miami. I wonder how much we would have been helped by a Miami win or tie. Oh well.

wakester2468

Every game seems to be more important than the previous one.  While an initial goal of getting a first round bye has been achieved, Pairwise rankings sure doesn't allow for a let down in any game. The Union game, although not affecting Cornell's final positioning in ECAC standings is of vital importance. A win most likely will give us a good chance of an at large bid in the NCAA's if we don't get the automatic bid by winning at Lake Placid. Harvard is on a roll winning the Beanpot and playing as well as anyone in the country.
Without getting too far ahead of things, with a win against Union and a Harvard victory over Clarkson, we secure the 2nd seed thus if things work out in the playoffs according to
seeding, we would play Union rather than Harvard in the semis at Lake Placid. Granted that's looking a ways down the road but Union is a much more desirable opponent. It is possible that we might need to win that semifinal in Lake Placid to get a birth in the NCAA tourney. To me, this makes tonight's game against U the most important of the year.

andyw2100

Quote from: wakester2468Harvard is on a roll winning the Beanpot and playing as well as anyone in the country.
Without getting too far ahead of things, with a win against Union and a Harvard victory over Clarkson, we secure the 2nd seed thus if things work out in the playoffs according to
seeding, we would play Union rather than Harvard in the semis at Lake Placid.

Not sure what you are talking about. We can finish no higher or lower than third, no matter what happens tonight.

Our game will have an impact on the 1-2 spots. If we beat Union, and Harvard wins as well (or if other scenarios involving ties play out) we will, as you suggest, face Union instead of Harvard in Lake Placid if the playoff results hold, but it will be as a three-seed, playing Union as a two-seed.

Oh, and Harvard plays Saint Lawrence tonight, not Clarkson.

wakester2468

I have posted rather erroneous posts here on occasions but this last one might be the worst. You are right about not finishing any place but 3rd and the face Harvard plays
St Lawrence tonight. The point I was trying to make although with bogus facts is that it is preferable in my opinion to have Harvard finish ahead of Harvard thus requiring us
to defeat Union tonight. Let's try this again. It help us Pairwise with Union and eliminates a potential semi final match up with Harvard at Lake Placid. Think i will leave it at that.

andyw2100

Quote from: wakester2468The point I was trying to make although with bogus facts is that it is preferable in my opinion to have Harvard finish ahead of Harvard thus requiring us
to defeat Union tonight.

But what happens if Harvard finishes behind Harvard?  :)

wakester2468

Damn, I need to get rid of this decaf and go to the leaded stuff.

KenP

Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: wakester2468The point I was trying to make although with bogus facts is that it is preferable in my opinion to have Harvard finish ahead of Harvard thus requiring us
to defeat Union tonight.

But what happens if Harvard finishes behind Harvard?  :)
Then Harvard is pulling Harvard back. In other words, Harvard sucks.

wakester2468

That is one thing to agree on and I'm sure I'm right about.

upprdeck

PWR changes so much this late.

But one thing we know is that in the NCHC St cloud or ND will go backwards since the likely play each other, one is losing 2 games
in Hockey east good chance that BU/prov play and hurt one of them with 2 losses, also could have ND/Vermont give someone 2 losses

thats 3  teams around us in the bubble that will get 2 losses and if we take care of business tonight and the first round we can only take one.. thats about all we can control

then it comes down to imploding leagues beyond the 2 likely non PWR qualifiers

wakester2468

All good points. Think I will leave the stats and facts to others for awhile. They always seem to get in the way of my opinions.

Trotsky

Quote from: wakester2468All good points. Think I will leave the stats and facts to others for awhile. They always seem to get in the way of my opinions.
That is the great weakness of evidence.  ::crazy::

Jim Hyla

Quote from: wakester2468Damn, I need to get rid of this decaf and go to the leaded stuff.

There's also that preview link. Proofreading does help.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Dafatone

To fearmonger, I could see the lack of a lake placid consolation game being our downfall.  Or union's, for that matter.

The way I see it, the loser of today's game probably needs to win one in lake placid.  A consolation game would help.

upprdeck

i think if we win tonight , the lack of game is good, if we lose tonight and get to the semis and lose then its bad.

Trotsky

Significant improvement over last year in ECAC RS G/GP (with rounding).

Cornell needs 3 goals tonight to average 3.2.  Under Schafer we have done that 7 times: 96, 97, 00, 02, 03, 05, 10.  In 5 of those 7 seasons we went on to win the ECAC Tournament.