Alumni in the Pros - April 2017

[BearLover]

Intriguing to hear Greening so animated talking about an AHL playoff game, having played almost 300 games in the NHL.  I'd be interested in learning when/why things started to go downhill for Colin after he averaged almost a point every-other game for the Sens, playing three full seasons, much of which was spent on their top line.  This year he posted only 10 goals and 14 assists and 69 games for the Marlies.

the salary cap happened...he was overpaid in a cap world and got squeezed out.

This explanation doesn't make any sense.  Either he's good enough for the NHL or he isn't.  He was pretty evidently good enough his first few years.

[CU2007]

Intriguing to hear Greening so animated talking about an AHL playoff game, having played almost 300 games in the NHL.  I'd be interested in learning when/why things started to go downhill for Colin after he averaged almost a point every-other game for the Sens, playing three full seasons, much of which was spent on their top line.  This year he posted only 10 goals and 14 assists and 69 games for the Marlies.

the salary cap happened...he was overpaid in a cap world and got squeezed out.

This explanation doesn't make any sense.  Either he's good enough for the NHL or he isn't.  He was pretty evidently good enough his first few years.

Not necessarily. In a cap world, a player's value is his ability relative to his cap hit. If his contract paid him $850k, he'd be more likely to find an NHL team who could use him. Since it is significantly higher, he's buried in the minors.

[BearLover]

Intriguing to hear Greening so animated talking about an AHL playoff game, having played almost 300 games in the NHL.  I'd be interested in learning when/why things started to go downhill for Colin after he averaged almost a point every-other game for the Sens, playing three full seasons, much of which was spent on their top line.  This year he posted only 10 goals and 14 assists and 69 games for the Marlies.

the salary cap happened...he was overpaid in a cap world and got squeezed out.

This explanation doesn't make any sense.  Either he's good enough for the NHL or he isn't.  He was pretty evidently good enough his first few years.

Not necessarily. In a cap world, a player's value is his ability relative to his cap hit. If his contract paid him $850k, he'd be more likely to find an NHL team who could use him. Since it is significantly higher, he's buried in the minors.

You're right--good point.  But I think the biggest reason he's buried in the minors is that his production has significantly declined in recent years.  It's likely he wouldn't make an NHL roster today even if he were making the league minimum. (Which is sad, because Greening is/was one of my favorite players.)

[Dafatone]

Intriguing to hear Greening so animated talking about an AHL playoff game, having played almost 300 games in the NHL.  I'd be interested in learning when/why things started to go downhill for Colin after he averaged almost a point every-other game for the Sens, playing three full seasons, much of which was spent on their top line.  This year he posted only 10 goals and 14 assists and 69 games for the Marlies.

the salary cap happened...he was overpaid in a cap world and got squeezed out.

This explanation doesn't make any sense.  Either he's good enough for the NHL or he isn't.  He was pretty evidently good enough his first few years.

Not necessarily. In a cap world, a player's value is his ability relative to his cap hit. If his contract paid him $850k, he'd be more likely to find an NHL team who could use him. Since it is significantly higher, he's buried in the minors.

You're right--good point.  But I think the biggest reason he's buried in the minors is that his production has significantly declined in recent years.  It's likely he wouldn't make an NHL roster today even if he were making the league minimum. (Which is sad, because Greening is/was one of my favorite players.)

He put up a half-point a game in his last stretch in the NHL with Toronto last season.  If you can believe it, he's 31.  I don't blame teams for thinking he's topped out.

[ugarte]

There is no appropriate thread, I'm not starting a new one, and I just want to laugh at everyone in Pittsburgh shocked and appalled that someone was able to sneak a fish into a hockey game.