NCAA tournament

[CU77]

If anyone wants to watch it, Gabe Dean's match begins just after the 1h30min mark of the archived broadcast of the championship round on ESPN3.

[RichH]

I think I enjoy wrestling more on these recap threads than actually watching a match. Thank you to all the knowledgable and enthusiastic people here who make that possible.

[ugarte]

What's amazing about this tournament is how close we came to third overall and also how close we came to total disaster.

If Palacio had hung on for just a few more seconds, he'd have beaten the #4 wrestler in the country in the 4th consolation round. He'd have won the next match by forfeit, as the opponent was injured in his quarterfinals match. That forfeit would have made Palacio an All-American. That's two wins in the consolation bracket at 1/2 point apiece, 2 points for the forfeit and at least three for finishing 8th (and a chance to finish as high as third). At least 6 points if he could have lasted another seven seconds.* We finished 4 points behind Edinboro for third.

On the other hand, as a guy on a wrestling forum I read pointed out:
At 149, Villalonga, who finished in 6th overall, won his second round match in SV.
At 157, Realbuto, who finished 2d overall, kinda sorta lost his quarterfinal match but Kent State didn't properly protest.**
At 184, Dean, who won the national title, had to come from way behind to win by 1 in the second round, won by 1 in the QF and won on riding time criteria in double OT in the SF.

Three teams finished within 10 points of us. Any one of those changes could have dropped us even lower in the standings.


But I'd be remiss if I didn't specifically congratulate Garett, Villalonga, Garrett, Realbuto and especially Dean for finishing AA and Grey, Palacio, Pickett and Aiken-Phillips for qualifying. And thanks to all the wrestlers - especially the seniors - who toughened the starters up in the workout room.

This sport is fun as hell.


* And, to be honest, it's unclear why the ref awarded the takedown against Palacio when he did. If he was going to call it, he should have called it seven or eight seconds earlier, instead, he let Palacio cling on, thinking it was a neutral position, to either run out the clock or have them both stand for stalemate, but the position never changed. The ref just eventually decided that it was enough to give the points.

** There is a counterargument here, which is that Realbuto may have scored more if he knew the scoreboard was wrong but that only helps mitigate the injustice. The scoreboard was wrong and the Kent State kid got screwed.

[upprdeck]

realbuto even said in one story that he saw the score and knew he was Ok at that point. no need to risk a turn.

[Trotsky]

How does Edinboro continue to compete against programs with 1000x the assets and profile?  I'm sure they must have some legendary coach, but even then... how?

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FINAL 2015 NCAA CHAMPIONSHIPS TEAM SCORES

1. Ohio St. 102.0
2. Iowa 84.0
3. Edinboro 75.5
4. Missouri 73.5
5. Cornell 71.5
6. Penn St. 67.5
7. Oklahoma St. 65.0
8. Minnesota 59.5
9. Nebraska 59.0
10. Virginia Tech 56.0
11. Michigan 54.0
12. Illinois 51.0
13. Lehigh 39.5
14. Iowa St. 39.0
15. Northwestern 34.5
16. North Carolina St. 34.0
17. Wisconsin 32.5
18. Oklahoma 29.5
19. Virginia 26.5
20. West Virginia 23.5
21. Pittsburgh 23.0
22. Old Dominion 22.0
23. North Dakota St. 19.5
24. Indiana 18.0
24. North Carolina 18.0
26. Kent St. 16.0
27. Rider 15.5
28. Duke 14.0
29. Arizona St. 12.5
30. Oregon St. 11.5
31. Ohio 9.5
31. Princeton 9.5
31. Rutgers 9.5
34. Northern Iowa 9.0
35. Hofstra 8.0
35. Stanford 8.0
37. Lock Haven 7.5
38. Penn 6.5
39. Maryland 6.0
39. Wyoming 6.0
41. Drexel 5.0
42. Purdue 4.5
43. Appalachian St. 4.0
43. Boise State 4.0
45. Chattanooga 3.5
46. American 3.0
46. Brown 3.0
46. Bucknell 3.0
46. Northern Colorado 3.0
50. Army 2.5
50. Central Mich. 2.5
52. Air Force 2.0
53. Cleveland St. 1.5
53. Davidson 1.5
53. Eastern Mich. 1.5
53. Navy 1.5
53. South Dakota St. 1.5
58. Binghamton 1.0
58. Cal Poly 1.0
58. Citadel 1.0
58. Columbia 1.0
58. CSU Bakersfield 1.0
58. SIU Edwardsville 1.0
58. Utah Valley 1.0
65. George Mason 0.5
65. Harvard 0.5
67. Gardner-Webb 0.0
67. Northern Ill. 0.0
69. Michigan St. -0.5


[dbilmes]

How does Edinboro continue to compete against programs with 1000x the assets and profile?  I'm sure they must have some legendary coach, but even then... how?

It's the system

[ugarte]

How does Edinboro continue to compete against programs with 1000x the assets and profile?  I'm sure they must have some legendary coach, but even then... how?

Probably the same way Johns Hopkins competes in lacrosse. Wrestling is their only Division I program and Pennsylvania/New Jersey has great high school wrestling to recruit from. Their current coach is not "legendary" but he took over the program from the truly legendary Bruce Baumgartner, who is still the AD.

[Cornell95]

can someone give me a brief explanation how you finish with a negative team score?

[djk26]

You can get a penalty, which takes away points, for inappropriate conduct.  I'm guessing the team in question had maybe one wrestler entered and in his one match (which he lost, probably, so no positive points), he or his coaches were hit with a penalty.

[ugarte]

You can get a penalty, which takes away points, for inappropriate conduct.  I'm guessing the team in question had maybe one wrestler entered and in his one match (which he lost, probably, so no positive points), he or his coaches were hit with a penalty.

For example, Missouri's Johnny Eblen was DQ'd for a headbutt in his match, costing his team all of the points Eblen had earned to that point plus an additional 3 point penalty. We beat Penn 32 - -1 last year because we swept all the matches AND Penn got hit with a one point penalty against the coaching staff.

[KeithK]

We beat Penn 32 - -1 last year because we swept all the matches AND Penn got hit with a one point penalty against the coaching staff.

Hopefully someone started a "Frustrated" chant when that happened.