Men's Track Rises to #19 Ranking

[nyc94]

Women win Outdoor Heps. Men finish second to Princeton.

I don't watch much track but if the women win with 145 points, what does it say about Yale that they managed only 10 in finishing last?  Yale men also last by a good margin.

Like usual it means that there are a few teams are really stacked and the rest of the league isn't very good, especially on the Men's side where in track it has been Princeton and Cornell for so long that the rest of the league basically concedes Indoor and Outdoor to them and focuses on Cross Country where one or two athletes can make a far greater difference. Since there are roster limits for Heps it also means that the best teams have to have a quite few guys who can score (top six) in multiple events (one reason Cornell tends to focus on sprint and field points, distance guys can't really run as many events in one championships). If it weren't for roster limits, Cornell would probably win Heps almost every year, since we leave a lot of IC4A qualifiers off the Heps roster, particularly in distance, where Princeton's dominance pretty much undid our chances. Usually if we want to win Dartmouth or Columbia or someone else needs to take some points there. But back to Yale, what it says is that it has very few people on their team can finish in the top 6 of an event, even when other teams athletes are doubling and they are focusing on taking points wherever they can. Heps is scored 10-8-6-4-2-1 from 1st to 6th in each event, so that means they had at most 10 6th place scorers in about 20 events, including the relays in which 3/4 of the league scores. It's more likely they only had 2-3 scorers.

Thanks for the reply.  I still find it amazing the Yale women scored only 10 points when even seventh place Penn managed 56.  The Penn men were also seventh, 46 points to Yale's 19.

[billhoward]

I still find it amazing the Yale women scored only 10 points when even seventh place Penn managed 56.  The Penn men were also seventh, 46 points to Yale's 19.

Marching on the Dean's Office is no longer an Ivy/Heps event. Else all the Ivies would be Top Ten.

[ugarte]

Close of dual season at #13 if I remember a tweet correctly.