Cornell 0 at Penn 34 football postgame, Cornell post-season

scoop85 · December 01, 2009, 05:10:53 PM

Quote from: jkahnIn a related note to the football coaching situation:
Marc Trestman, a finalist for the Cornell coaching position last time around, is now head coach of the Montreal Alouettes, who won the Grey Cup this weekend.
http://cornellsun.com/node/10751

Well, Giants' fans are constantly bitching about Kevin Gilbride's play calling. Pretty similar to the harping about our offense this past year (albeit on an entirely different level).

Rita · December 01, 2009, 08:25:53 PM

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: jkahnIn a related note to the football coaching situation:
Marc Trestman, a finalist for the Cornell coaching position last time around, is now head coach of the Montreal Alouettes, who won the Grey Cup this weekend.
http://cornellsun.com/node/10751

Well, Giants' fans are constantly bitching about Kevin ~~Gilbride's~~ Kildrive's play calling. Pretty similar to the harping about our offense this past year (albeit on an entirely different level).

FYP.

imafrshmn · December 10, 2009, 01:45:29 AM

"Cornell Stands Firmly Behind Knowles"

http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20091209/SPORTS03/912090367/1124/sports03/Cornell+stands+firmly+behind+Knowles

Quote from: Andy NoelWe support Jim Knowles completely, ... He's working extremely hard to find the variables to help him turn everything around. He really does have enormous support.

Jeff Hopkins '82 · December 10, 2009, 05:17:24 AM

2 years left on the contract? That explains why he has Andy's full support.

Al DeFlorio · December 10, 2009, 06:45:00 AM

Quote from: imafrshmn"Cornell Stands Firmly Behind Knowles"

http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20091209/SPORTS03/912090367/1124/sports03/Cornell+stands+firmly+behind+Knowles

Quote from: Andy NoelWe support Jim Knowles completely, ... He's working extremely hard to find the variables to help him turn everything around. He really does have enormous support.

How depressing.::cuss:: Two more years of "misery."::pissed::

Best line from the story: "Knowles declined comment on whether changes to his staff are pending. He did say that he is looking at changing the way Cornell's offensive system works." Doh!::idea::

Jim Hyla · December 10, 2009, 07:36:53 AM

Quote from: Noel"We support our athletes and our coaching staff and we support our head coach," he said. "In the years since 1956, we've shared three titles and never have won an outright Ivy League football championship. I'd say hundreds of Cornell alumni and friends of our program would really like to see that happen. They're very supportive.

"It's a marathon and not a sprint. We will not give up and will keep working hard toward that goal."

The problem is that most people don't take more than 6 years to complete a marathon. How disappointing a decision.

Chris '03 · December 10, 2009, 10:48:04 AM

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Noel"We support our athletes and our coaching staff and we support our head coach," he said. "In the years since 1956, we've shared three titles and never have won an outright Ivy League football championship. I'd say hundreds of Cornell alumni and friends of our program would really like to see that happen. They're very supportive.

"It's a marathon and not a sprint. We will not give up and will keep working hard toward that goal."

I think that's pretty telling as well. We have literally hundreds of fans! Maybe if there were thousands, there might be a little more urgency. Of course, maybe if there weren't so much complacency about losing (3-3 against columbia including two straight losses)?), there'd be more than hundreds....

Steve Donahue turned the basketball program around in 6 years. Jim Knowles has solidified the football program's lower division position with no legitimate hope for the future. Two more years of these recruiting classes plus knowles coaching means at least 4 years before there's much chance of success under a new staff.

billhoward · December 12, 2009, 02:54:52 PM

Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Noel"We support our athletes and our coaching staff and we support our head coach," he said. "In the years since 1956, we've shared three titles and never have won an outright Ivy League football championship. I'd say hundreds of Cornell alumni and friends of our program would really like to see that happen. They're very supportive.

"It's a marathon and not a sprint. We will not give up and will keep working hard toward that goal."

I think that's pretty telling as well. We have literally hundreds of fans! Maybe if there were thousands, there might be a little more urgency. Of course, maybe if there weren't so much complacency about losing (3-3 against columbia including two straight losses)?), there'd be more than hundreds....

Steve Donahue turned the basketball program around in 6 years. Jim Knowles has solidified the football program's lower division position with no legitimate hope for the future. Two more years of these recruiting classes plus knowles coaching means at least 4 years before there's much chance of success under a new staff.

A way for Cornell to claw its way back to competitiveness? Tennessee seems to do a good job recruiting HS players via its hostess program, as indicated by this story and photo in Sports Illustrated. Story mentions with a mostly straight face that "The above photo, taken by SI.com after the game, shows Earps and Johnson [star HS players] violated the letter of the NCAA rule against contact by a representative of the university's athletics interest, which the NCAA considers a secondary violation."

Al DeFlorio · December 15, 2009, 07:00:49 AM

Penn just canned its basketball coach: http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20091214/SPORTS03/912140354/1128/Sports/Penn-gives-quick-hook-to-men-s-basketball-coach

Will Donahue interview again?

Chris '03 · December 15, 2009, 10:18:02 AM

Quote from: Al DeFlorioPenn just canned its basketball coach: http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20091214/SPORTS03/912140354/1128/Sports/Penn-gives-quick-hook-to-men-s-basketball-coach

Will Donahue interview again?

You would hope not given the success he's had in Ithaca and the position he has the program in for the next several years. He would obviously love to be back in Philly but it seems he'd be better off waiting for an offer from a school that's more a step up than Penn would be. Another Ivy title and more than just other Ivies will be knocking on the door. A slight upgrade to Penn would mean at least a few years to get his own guys in and start winning titles again before he could be in the same position to jump higher he's arguably in now.

billhoward · December 15, 2009, 06:26:38 PM

Good point. Given what Donahue has done in Ithaca, Penn would be a fractional change. The best one can hope for in the Ivies is to make it to the second round before heading to the exit. Or with luck the round of sixteen. That Penn team that made the final four may be a genetic quirk.

phillysportsfan · December 15, 2009, 10:40:43 PM

Yeah I would think Donahue is gone at the end of the season, if they win the Ivy again, especially if they win a first round game. He should leave at that point, probably would never get this program to a higher point than that. One school that might go after him would be Fordham who fired their coach earlier in the season. This would be a nice step up considering Fordham is in the A10.

The interesting thing will be who Andy decides to hire, does he promote an assistant or do we look elsewhere. Nat Graham is in his fifth year as an assistant here. It is a shame Spiker was hired at the beginning of this year to Army since he seems to be doing a great job there this year as they are 7-2 with a quality win over Harvard. Army has not had a winning season since the 80's I believe.

billhoward · December 16, 2009, 10:07:12 AM

Would that there are more Pete Carril types who are happy with a lifetime tenure in the Ivy League (and who keep winning).