Break up the ECAC!

Scersk '97 · November 16, 2008, 04:55:39 PM

And, while we're at it, break up the Air Force.

I know full well that we're dealing with early-season effects, but it's fun to look at Whelan's KRACH. We've played the most difficult schedule in the country, dammit!

Lauren '06 · November 16, 2008, 05:00:28 PM

Followed by New Hampshire, Colgate, Princeton, and Northeastern. Take that, WCHA.

CM cWo 44 · November 16, 2008, 05:50:57 PM

[quote Scersk '97]but it's fun to look at Whelan's KRACH.[/quote]

::banana::

ursusminor · November 16, 2008, 10:28:08 PM

More importantly, 5 ECAC schools would make the NCAA tourney (Princeton, Cornell, Colgate, Yale, and Dartmouth), and only 1 CCHA and 2 WCHA schools http://siouxsports.com/hockey/rankings/pwr/

jtwcornell91 · November 17, 2008, 03:23:37 AM

[quote ursusminor]More importantly, 5 ECAC schools would make the NCAA tourney (Princeton, Cornell, Colgate, Yale, and Dartmouth), and only 1 CCHA and 2 WCHA schools http://siouxsports.com/hockey/rankings/pwr/[/quote]

Looks like the Siouxsports guys have some sort of bug, since the breakdown for Northeastern shows them winning the RPI criterion over Air Force despite having a lower RPI:

http://siouxsports.com/hockey/rankings/pwrdetails.php?teamid=47

I also have the PWR, BTW, at

http://slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/tbrw.cgi?2009/pwr.shtml

Not that this really means anything so early in the season, of course...

jtwcornell91 · November 17, 2008, 03:38:26 AM

Here's a another meaningless fact: without the NCAA's "bad wins" fudge, Cornell would have the best RPI in the nation right now:

http://slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/2009/cgi-bin/rankings.cgi?dispRPI=true;refweight=0;PCTweight=25;OPPweight=21;OOPweight=54;topqual=15;homebon=.0000;neutbon=.0000;roadbon=.0000;rpifudge=no;PWCtb=RPI;PWCtbwt=1;PWCh2hwt=1;PWCh2h=per%20game;PWCtucwt=1;TUCdefcrit=rpi;TUCdefrel=top;TUCdefcut=25;TUCdefcrit2=pct;TUCdefrel2=ge;TUCdefcut2=.500;PWCtucmingm=10;PWCtucmintm=1;PWCtuccrit=pct;PWCtucomit=true;PWClastwt=0;PWClastnum=16;PWClastcrit=pct;PWCcomwt=1;PWCcommingm=1;PWCcommintm=1;PWCcomcrit=pct;scoresel=current;scores=

ursusminor · November 17, 2008, 09:17:33 AM

[quote jtwcornell91][quote ursusminor]More importantly, 5 ECAC schools would make the NCAA tourney (Princeton, Cornell, Colgate, Yale, and Dartmouth), and only 1 CCHA and 2 WCHA schools http://siouxsports.com/hockey/rankings/pwr/[/quote]

Looks like the Siouxsports guys have some sort of bug, since the breakdown for Northeastern shows them winning the RPI criterion over Air Force despite having a lower RPI:

http://siouxsports.com/hockey/rankings/pwrdetails.php?teamid=47

I also have the PWR, BTW, at

http://slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/tbrw.cgi?2009/pwr.shtml

Not that this really means anything so early in the season, of course...[/quote]
The "1" looks to me like it is in the Air Force column.

Of course, it doesn't mean anything, but that doesn't stop you from displaying KRACH this time of the year either. :-D

KeithK · November 17, 2008, 02:47:41 PM

[quote ursusminor]More importantly, 5 ECAC schools would make the NCAA tourney (Princeton, Cornell, Colgate, Yale, and Dartmouth), and only 1 CCHA and 2 WCHA schools http://siouxsports.com/hockey/rankings/pwr/[/quote]
It's all just a pleasant fantasy. But oh, to see the heads exploding in the west if this were to somehow continue through March!

jtwcornell91 · November 17, 2008, 03:19:37 PM

[quote ursusminor][quote jtwcornell91][quote ursusminor]More importantly, 5 ECAC schools would make the NCAA tourney (Princeton, Cornell, Colgate, Yale, and Dartmouth), and only 1 CCHA and 2 WCHA schools http://siouxsports.com/hockey/rankings/pwr/[/quote]

Looks like the Siouxsports guys have some sort of bug, since the breakdown for Northeastern shows them winning the RPI criterion over Air Force despite having a lower RPI:

http://siouxsports.com/hockey/rankings/pwrdetails.php?teamid=47

I also have the PWR, BTW, at

http://slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/tbrw.cgi?2009/pwr.shtml

Not that this really means anything so early in the season, of course...[/quote]
The "1" looks to me like it is in the Air Force column.
[/quote]
They seem to have fixed it, presumably in response to the message I sent this morning.

OTOH, I think their adjusted RPI is still wrong, since they didn't drop AFA's two wins against Bemidji State, even though doing so would further improve the Falcons' RPI.

Killer · November 17, 2008, 03:58:43 PM

You're right on both fronts. In this week's poll, Princeton and Air Force each get a first place vote:

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/

What is this world coming to?

DeltaOne81 · November 20, 2008, 02:16:12 PM

[quote KeithK][quote ursusminor]More importantly, 5 ECAC schools would make the NCAA tourney (Princeton, Cornell, Colgate, Yale, and Dartmouth), and only 1 CCHA and 2 WCHA schools http://siouxsports.com/hockey/rankings/pwr/[/quote]
It's all just a pleasant fantasy. But oh, to see the heads exploding in the west if this were to somehow continue through March![/quote]

We know it won't stay that way once the WCHA is allowed to start getting easy wins against themselves and the ECAC is forced to beat up on each other night-in-and-night-out

lynah80 · December 30, 2008, 09:33:49 PM

Not a bad week for the ECAC against other conferences.

Princeton 2-0
Quinnipiac 2-0
Dartmouth 2-0
Cornell 1-0
Colgate 1-0
Yale 1-1
Harvard 0-2 (oops)

Roy 82 · December 30, 2008, 10:13:33 PM

[quote lynah80]Not a bad week for the ECAC against other conferences.

Princeton 2-0
Quinnipiac 2-0
Dartmouth 2-0
Cornell 1-0
Colgate 1-0
Yale 1-1
Harvard 0-2 (oops)[/quote]

Hmmm. There is a word that we might use to describe Harvard. It is on the tip of my tongue but I can't quite think of it. I think that it starts with the letter "s".::pain::

Al DeFlorio · December 30, 2008, 10:45:14 PM

[quote Roy 82][quote lynah80]Not a bad week for the ECAC against other conferences.

Princeton 2-0
Quinnipiac 2-0
Dartmouth 2-0
Cornell 1-0
Colgate 1-0
Yale 1-1
Harvard 0-2 (oops)[/quote]

Hmmm. There is a word that we might use to describe Harvard. It is on the tip of my tongue but I can't quite think of it. I think that it starts with the letter "s".::pain::[/quote]
Enjoyable as it is to watch Harvard suck, keep in mind that mid-January last season they were 6-10-3 and struggling similarly, but wound up in the ECAC championship game against Princeton after beating you-know-who in the semis.

Chris '03 · December 30, 2008, 10:54:40 PM

[quote Al DeFlorio]
Enjoyable as it is to watch Harvard suck, keep in mind that mid-January last season they were 6-10-3 and struggling similarly, but wound up in the ECAC championship game against Princeton after beating you-know-who in the semis.[/quote]

Harvard never manages to go 7-0 or even 5-2 OOC. They always seem to do their best to blow it for everyone else by rolling over in non-conference games. They are looking to get blown out on the first two mondays in February this year too the way it's been going for the other three. Of course, you're right, Al. They'll string together some sort of hot streak at the end like they always seem to do and cost Cornell or Princeton, or some other conference team an NCAA berth/seed. They're good for nothing.