Polls 11/6

[RichH]

USCHO.com/CSTV Division I Men's Poll
November 6, 2006

   Team   (First Place Votes)   Record   Points   Last Poll
1   Maine   (36)         7-0-1   796   1
2   Minnesota   ( 4)      8-1-0   754   2
3   Boston College         5-2-0   665   3
4   Miami            7-3-0   646   4
5   North Dakota         6-3-1   603   8
6   Michigan State         4-2-0   541   6
7   Wisconsin         4-4-2   535   5
8   Boston University      2-1-3   504   7
9   Notre Dame         6-1-1   463   10
10   Michigan         5-3-0   455   9
11   Cornell            4-0-0   445   12
12   Clarkson         6-1-1   421   14
13   New Hampshire         4-2-0   337   13
14   Denver            4-4-0   218   15
15   Alaska            5-1-2   138   NR
16   Northern Michigan      5-4-1   124   19
16   St. Cloud State         2-3-1   124   17
18   Rensselaer         3-1-3   108   NR
19   Dartmouth         2-2-0   103   11
20   Colorado College      5-4-1   87   NR

Others Receiving Votes: Massachusetts 78, Nebraska-Omaha 41, 
Michigan Tech 36, Harvard 28, Mass.-Lowell 28, Yale 22, 
St. Lawrence 19, Minnesota-Duluth 18, Vermont 17, Quinnipiac 12, 
Lake Superior 9, Alaska-Anchorage 8, Army 6, Niagara 5, Colgate 4, 
Holy Cross 2

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine
Men's College Hockey Poll - Nov. 6, 2006

No.    Team          Points   Record   Last week   Weeks in top 15
1.    Maine          510 (34)7-0-1   1      6
2.    Minnesota      476   8-1-0   2      6
3.    Boston College       433   5-2-0   3      6
4.    Miami (Ohio)       385   7-3-0   4      6
5.    Michigan State       318   4-2-0   5      6
6.    North Dakota       316   6-3-1   6      6
7.    Wisconsin       272   4-4-2   7      6
8.    Boston University    262   2-1-3   8      6
9.    Notre Dame       233   6-1-1   10      3
10.    Michigan       218   5-3-0   9      6
T11.    Clarkson       191   6-1-1   13      4
T11.    Cornell       191   4-0-0   11      5
13.    New Hampshire       114   4-2-0   14      6
14.    Denver          58   4-4-0   NR      5
15.    Alaska-Anchorage    31   3-3-2   NR      1

Others receiving votes: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, 17; 
St. Cloud State University, 16; Northern Michigan University, 15; 
Dartmouth College, 8; University of Massachusetts, 7; 
U.S. Military Academy (Army), 2; Colorado College, 2; 
University of Nebraska Omaha, 2; College of the Holy Cross, 1; 
Lake Superior State University, 1; Michigan Tech University, 1.

[Scersk '97]

Clearly, Harvard's non-playing has finally affected its standing in the polls.

[Jacob '06]

I love how the best team in our conference supposedly is worse than the top 3 in the other 3 major conferences. ECAC gets as much respect as tom brady.;-)

[ugarte]

[quote Jacob '06]I love how the best team in our conference supposedly is worse than the top 3 in the other 3 major conferences. ECAC gets as much respect as tom brady.;-)[/quote]Probably not the best day to make a Tom Brady reference. Not when I'm likely to see my first FF loss in over a month.

[RichH]

[quote ugarte]Not when I'm likely to see my first FF loss in over a month.[/quote]

Not a good idea to use the phrase "FF loss" on this board.  Let's be more careful with our acronyming.

Fantasy Football.

[Rosey]

[quote Jacob '06]I love how the best team in our conference supposedly is worse than the top 3 in the other 3 major conferences. ECAC gets as much respect as tom brady.;-)[/quote]
How long ago was the NCAA tournament last won by an ECAC team?

Yeah.

Respect is earned, and there's a reason why the ECAC(hl) is presumed weaker in these kinds of polls.  It's up to our teams to put up the results to prove them wrong, and then we'll (rightly) be accorded more respect.

This is why I'm encouraged by programs like Quinnipiac kicking ass, and by RPI and Yale getting rid of old, tired, ineffective coaches: the day a .750 ECAC(hl) winning percentage is no longer considered a bad year for Cornell will be the day that the ECAC(hl) finally becomes more nationally competitive.

There are still a few more coaches that have to go, though.  Grillo is currently at the top of my list: Brown has sucked for far too long.

Kyle

[Jacob '06]

[quote krose][quote Jacob '06]I love how the best team in our conference supposedly is worse than the top 3 in the other 3 major conferences. ECAC gets as much respect as tom brady.;-)[/quote]
How long ago was the NCAA tournament last won by an ECAC team?

Yeah.

Respect is earned, and there's a reason why the ECAC(hl) is presumed weaker in these kinds of polls.  It's up to our teams to put up the results to prove them wrong, and then we'll (rightly) be accorded more respect.

This is why I'm encouraged by programs like Quinnipiac kicking ass, and by RPI and Yale getting rid of old, tired, ineffective coaches: the day a .750 ECAC(hl) winning percentage is no longer considered a bad year for Cornell will be the day that the ECAC(hl) finally becomes more nationally competitive.

There are still a few more coaches that have to go, though.  Grillo is currently at the top of my list: Brown has sucked for far too long.

Kyle[/quote]

This may come back to bite me, but when is the last time 3 CCHA teams went further in the NCAAs than all of the ECAC?

[Rosey]

[quote Jacob '06]This may come back to bite me, but when is the last time 3 CCHA teams went further in the NCAAs than all of the ECAC?[/quote]
I don't know either.

But even if your implication is correct, it is like measuring a yard in feet, finding it comes out to a whole number, and using that example to express outrage that people insist on using those wacky "meters" to express length when ".9144 meters" is so inelegant: you are measuring something that no one cares about.

If you care about the level of respect the press and other conferences' fans and coaches give us, then you have to remedy it by either changing what they think is important or by getting your conference to do better according to their metrics.  Good luck on the first one.

Kyle

[Josh '99]

[quote krose]There are still a few more coaches that have to go, though.  Grillo is currently at the top of my list: Brown has sucked for far too long.[/quote]And also they're a bunch of fucking hacks.

[Jordan 04]

[quote krose][quote Jacob '06]This may come back to bite me, but when is the last time 3 CCHA teams went further in the NCAAs than all of the ECAC?[/quote]


But even if your implication is correct, it is like measuring a yard in feet, finding it comes out to a whole number, and using that example to express outrage that people insist on using those wacky "meters" to express length when ".9144 meters" is so inelegant: you are measuring something that no one cares about.


Kyle[/quote]

It may have taken 24 years, but FINALLY somebody has used the "yard-measured-in-feet-but-rounded-so-insist-on-meters" simile that I've been waiting for.