Thank You, Schafer! (Part 1001)

[andyw2100]

[quote Trotsky]
An advance is... an advance.  Disposal of an opponent.  Movement to the next round.  The opposite of elimination.[/quote]

Got it. Thanks. (Should have gotten it in the first place. My bad.)
                       Andy W.

[French Rage]

[quote jtwcornell91][quote French Rage]Advance means you go from one round to the next.  Thus, 2003 had two advances, from 1st round to 2nd round, then to FF.  1990 didn't since the win didnt advance us.[/quote]

It was 1991, actually.  I remember because I flew out to Cali to visit grad schools that Sunday, and couldn't for the life of me find out how the series ended.[/quote]

Ah, my bad.  I was in elementary school, so it's ancient history to me. :-P

[Josh '99]

[quote CrazyLarry]As for Colgate competing last year, well, so did Bemidji State last year, and Holy Cross this year.[/quote]Holy Cross actually *won a game*, which is more than Harvard et al. can say.

[billhoward]

[quote CrazyLarry]This is as good a place as any (except the Harvard thread) to point out the remarkable 6-5 record Schafer has in NCAA tourney play going into today.  That's really good, considering the number of other ECAC wins in the NCAA tourney in that time.

Counting that up, the ECAC is 9-23 in the NCAAs since Schafer came to Cornell.  Cornell is 6-5 in that time.  The last non-Cornell ECAC team to win an NCAA game was SLU(t) in 2000.  Which brings up the thought I had last night, is Cornell hockey basically the Gonzaga of hockey?  The only team in the conference that can compete nationally.  Maybe.[/quote]

We could've used Adam Morrison on skates at some point vs. the Badgers.

Harvard can compete nationally. Just not recently. (Remember 1989.) Last year's one-and-done loss wasn't so bad although it was, of course, still a loss. While we have Schafer, Harvard has the name. If you're a good hockey player and a good student, at some point Harvard's going to enter into your mind. You think BC and Harvard, Wisconsin and Harvard, etcetera ... at least think it. That's going to continue Harvard's prominence.

(Aside: Some stories have it that the McKee Family was impressed with Harvard ... until they met the coach. At which point, "Hello, Big Red.")

[Trotsky]

[quote billhoward]While we have Schafer, Harvard has the name. If you're a good hockey player and a good student, at some point Harvard's going to enter into your mind. You think BC and Harvard, Wisconsin and Harvard, etcetera ... at least think it. That's going to continue Harvard's prominence.[/quote]

The Cornell name is nothing to sneeze at, of course.  But Harvard and Yale are the two names that the casual American mentions when they think of a ticket to the front row in life.

Cornell is much more than Schafer, however.  It is *the* place where you can come, get a world class education, compete for the national title, and be, by a mile, the biggest story on campus.  It's also got a snowy, rural location which reminds many of our northern brethren of home.  And, of course, the best fans on Earth. ;-)

Schafer is a huge boon and he knows his business.  But a large part of that business is marketing Cornell as Cornell, and not just as the place where a future NCAA Hockey Hall of Fame coach happens to be.

[Will]

[quote billhoward](Aside: Some stories have it that the McKee Family was impressed with Harvard ... until they met the coach. At which point, "Hello, Big Red.")[/quote]

We'll have to thank Mazzoleni later. :-D  (Or perhaps we already have, considering his current team, the Green Bay Gamblers of the USHL, play at the Resch Center.)

[Rich S]

[quote Trotsky][quote billhoward]While we have Schafer, Harvard has the name. If you're a good hockey player and a good student, at some point Harvard's going to enter into your mind. You think BC and Harvard, Wisconsin and Harvard, etcetera ... at least think it. That's going to continue Harvard's prominence.[/quote]



Schafer is a huge boon and he knows his business.  But a large part of that business is marketing Cornell as Cornell, and not just as the place where a future NCAA Hockey Hall of Fame coach happens to be.[/quote]

Yes, he's an excellent coach but I think it's a bit premature to say with certainty that Schafer is bound for the NCAA Hall of Fame.

[ugarte]

[quote Rich S][quote Trotsky][quote billhoward]While we have Schafer, Harvard has the name. If you're a good hockey player and a good student, at some point Harvard's going to enter into your mind. You think BC and Harvard, Wisconsin and Harvard, etcetera ... at least think it. That's going to continue Harvard's prominence.[/quote]



Schafer is a huge boon and he knows his business.  But a large part of that business is marketing Cornell as Cornell, and not just as the place where a future NCAA Hockey Hall of Fame coach happens to be.[/quote]

Yes, he's an excellent coach but I think it's a bit premature to say with certainty that Schafer is bound for the NCAA Hall of Fame.[/quote]Sigh.

[Trotsky]

[quote ugarte]Sigh.[/quote]

I know.  Don't bother...

[jtwcornell91]

[quote Trotsky][quote ugarte]Sigh.[/quote]

I know.  Don't bother...[/quote]

Hey, he's entitled to his opinion.  Who are we to complain if he believes Schafer's greatest NCAA accomplishments are still ahead of him? :-D

[Rich S]

I'm not complaining but I think it's being presumptious to assume that he's "bound" as in, a lock, for the Hall.   There are probably a handful of guys in line ahead of him who have achieved greater NCAA tournament accompolishments as of now.

Really...why are you so touchy about Schafer?  I acknowledge that is an excellent coach.  What more do you want me to say?

Sigh...lol

[Trotsky]

[quote Rich S]I'm not complaining but I think it's being presumptious to assume that he's "bound" as in, a lock, for the Hall.[/quote]

Uh, yeah, no kidding, Rich.  Let me type this very slowly for you, with a return after each word so you can pause for breath.

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We are all well aware that if, say, wildly hypothetically, Mike were to physically assault one of his players and get fired, he wouldn't be close to a HoF coach as of his accomplishments thus far.

I was merely projecting Mike's pedigree after another few seasons and a national title or two.  As is my constitutionally optimistic right, on this Cornell hockey board.

It's a good thing you're not on powerplay.  You constantly miss the point.

[RatushnyFan]

Rich - why are you so touchy about Willie Mitchell?  He's a bit of goon I think.  Seriously.  That said, he's a valuable player and I wish he was on one of the teams that I cheer for (Canucks and Devils).  What more can I say?;-)

[Rich S]

Your sarcasm and demeaning tone is totally unnecessary nand not at all complimentary to you.

"Schafer is a huge boon and he knows his business. But a large part of that business is marketing Cornell as Cornell, and not just as the place where a future NCAA Hockey Hall of Fame coach happens to be."

The above hardly sounds like a joke particularly given the rest of the post in which it was made.

Again...assuming that he has one or two NCAA titles in his future is indeed assuming a lot.

Your cheap shot reference to the long-departed Morris is duly noted.  Yes it hurt whatever chance he may have had at the Hall.  Do you think Schafer's grabbing an MSU player because he needed to be "escorted of the ice"  ::rolleyes:: helped his image any?  Or the game he suspension he received?

You're living in a glass house ya know. :-)