Beanpaht (pawt)

[Liz \'05]

[dorky response]
I love that site (I'm a linguistics major)...but I wish clicking on the linked map worked.  American dialectal differences is one of my linguistic interests, to the point where I was planning out a study as I was driving through Virginia, Tennessee, Georgia and the Carolinas, listening to call-in radio shows.  I couldn't figure out how to actually implement the study while at Cornell, though, or I'd probably be doing that as an honors thesis.
(I figure it's okay to be a dork here among (mostly) Cornell people - when I was a misguided engineer, my math professor once said: "You're all afraid of asking questions because you think you'll look like a dork.  You're Cornell engineers.  You're already dorks.  Get over it and ask the damn question.")
[/dorky response]

Maybe someday I'll figure out exactly how Bostonians would say "Beanpot," "Harvard," and other relevant college hockey terms and post it here. :-)

[jtwcornell91]

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 [Q2]jtwcornell91 Wrote:

 [Q2]DeltaOne81 Wrote:
Though I gotta say, you misspelt 'paht' [/Q]
Really.  It's supposed to be spelled "pawt".  (People are always butchering the Bawstin accent.)[/Q]
Btw, being here for 6 months now, I must disagree. "aw" is Long Island, isn't it? As in "Oh my Gawd!". Boston is more 'ah', as in "Hahvahd", and "Pahk my cah by the Hahvahd yahd" - not "Pawk by caw by the Hawvawd Yawd" - that's NY.[/q]

All of which would be valid analogies if the word were "Beanpart" rather than "Beanpot".  Similarly, it's Boston=>Bawstin, not Barston=>Bahstin.

[BCrespi]

The a "aah" sound as we would say it (as in Harvard, park, etc), is defintely pronouned more as an aaah.  However, the o "aah" (as in Sox, Dodgers, etc) is awwwed.  Nothing like talking baseball with a bostonian.  If not for the accents alone.  "F--- the f---ing Dawdgers."

Any person with any moderate knowledge in this respect could probably explain this better than me, but this is just an uneducated New Yorker's perspective.

[Steve M]

I didn't grow up there, but went to High School in a suburb of Boston.  There are 3 main elements of the Boston accent, and a 4th that only a fraction of the people speak.

1.  R dropping - Pahk the cah....
2.  R adding - We sawr you sawring wood
3.  Consistent short O pronunciation -  every short O is pronounced "aw", while most Americans pronounce some of them "ah" (Socks) and some "aw" (office)
4.  Altered short A pronunciation - The Red Sawx are a hahf game out of first.

The funny part is, back then ~1980, so few Boston area residents had ever lived anywhere else, that many of my friends thought the rest of the United States talked like they did.  My strange way of speaking was allegedly because I was from Connecticut.  :-}

[Steve M]

Interesting.  I went to High School in Canton, within the small overlap zone of ENE and Prov. accents.  The "aw" O's were definitely all I evah heahd.

[DeltaOne81]

[Q]Steve M Wrote:
4.  Altered short A pronunciation - The Red Sawx are a hahf game out of first.[/q]
This almost makes me doubt your credibility because everyone knows that no real Bostonian would ever say 'Red' in the sentence

[Robb]

[Q]Liz '05 Wrote:
 I was planning out a study as I was driving through Virginia, Tennessee, Georgia and the Carolinas, listening to call-in radio shows.  I couldn't figure out how to actually implement the study while at Cornell, though, or I'd probably be doing that as an honors thesis.
 [/q]

Oh deah Gawd.

Trust me - I grew up in East Tennessee, and the LAST thing you want to do is listen to talk radio in that part of the country.  What brain cells the accents don't kill, the content will obliterate.  These are people who complain about "that liberal windbag Rush Limbaugh!"

 ::help::

[Liz \'05]

I was so intrigued by the accents and the contrast between the DJs and the callers, that I barely noticed the content.  I'm from suburban Connecticut.  We don't have accents ;-)  Believe me, if the content ever veered toward politics I'd start yelling at the radio (much like I yell at my roommate whenever he plays his conservative talk radio anywhere other than his room).

[Chris 02]

In the 2nd period so far, BC 2, HU 0

[jtwcornell91]

Harvard sucks.

[Rob NH]

NU manages to tie it just to blow it in OT, Beanpot University strikes again.

[Steve M]

The Beanpot is becoming (or has been) a boring tournament because, no matter how close the games are, the outcome is almost always the same.  Harvard and Northeastern lboth lose (except when they play each other) and BU wins.  I know BC won last year, but the talent difference between BU and BC was overwhelming.  Just once I would like to see a Harvard - NU final.

[Will]

Has a Harvard-NU final actually ever happened?  Perhaps long, long, long ago?

[Trotsky]

According to this: http://www.augenblick.org/chha/i_bean.html

amazingly, no.  Every final in Beanpot history has involved either BU, BC, or both.