[Cheers] Okay, people, time for some coordination!

[Beeeej]

Arthur announced it as recently as 1989-90, but I can't say for sure after that.  Quinn or Newman, was he doing it your freshman year?

Beeeej

[Greg Berge]

I think "... and you still SUCK!" was the reason Arthur stopped announcing the expiration of a penalty.  When Cornell's penalty expired, the cheer was "...and {opponent} still SUCKS!"

I'm neutral on profanity in cheers, and personally I thought that was/is a good tradition.

[Greg Berge]

Been a while since we got to chant "We want 20!" (which happens when we reach 10).

[cquinn]

I'm not sure about 90-91 but I'm sure the rest of the time was just students.  It wasn't every once in a while or just a small group of Faithful.  I can't speak for D, but sections A and B yelled it after every power play.  I just wish we could have scored more often when the power play was ours.  Yelling "we want more" beats "and they still suck" any day.

[Gabe Heafitz \'98 \'04]

Ladies and gents:

I'm all for discussing cheers of past years in the hopes of reviving the great ones that should not have fizzled out and also discussing current cheers in the hopes of ending such abominations as the long "DIIIIEEE", but my original purpose for this particular thread was to figure out what the hell we're doing for when a penalty is assessed to an opposing player.  Can we please get back on the subject?

Current options (to name a few; some are reasonable, and others are downright horrible):

1. Aahh, SEE YA, asshole!
2. Aahh, SEE YA, asshole! You goon!
3. Aahh, SEE YA, you goon!
4. Aahh, SEE YA, you lose!  ::yark::
5. Aahh, SEE YA!  
6. Aahh, SEE YA, asshole! You lose!  ::yark::
7. Aahh, SEE YA, you thug!
8. Aahh, SEE YA, you savage!
9. Aahh, SEE YA, you freaking savage! :-D
10. etc.

Numbers 1, 2, and 6 (anything containing a swear) will continue to get us tossed.  So, they might not be the best choice.  Also, it would be so hard for numbers 5, 7, 8, and 9 to catch on that, well, they're probably not worth discussing; even though my friend Tyler '97 started the whole "goon" business, I was never very into it, and so I figured I'd throw out some ideas...  So, that leaves 3, 4, and 10 (and no, I'm not suggesting that we yell "ET CETERA!!" when the ass-clown sets foot in the Sin Bin).  Please make suggestions for #10 or voice your opinions on the others.

Thanks.

[Greenberg \'97]

When I was there (93-97), the "returns to full strength" was originated from the crowd.  It was never half-assed, as far as I can recall.

As for when a Cornell power play is about to end, I've always wanted to shout "Slap your stick on the ice if you suck!" with about 5 seconds left, but was afraid of looking like an idiot when the opposing goalie didn't do it.

My opinion on "asshole," which has been brought up time and time again, is that it's a great word, but must be used carefully, lest it lose all meaning.  You are not an asshole if you get called for hooking.  You are an asshole if you fire a puck into the Cornell bench after the whistle.  A player who does the latter, while being pummeled by our hired goons, should be reminded of this, either as a "chant" or by individual shouts.  No usher will kick you out for appropriate use of a word.  Unless you're at Princeton, where a single "suck" will land you on probation for the rest of the game.

Finally, if the crowd is having an off year in terms of coordination, there isn't much that can be done about it now... but what we can always use are those individual cheers -- when the crowd is dead silent, and someone yells out a one-liner that makes 4 or 5 rows giggle.  I'd think of one now, but I have to take the turkey out of the brine in 4 hours.

[jeh25]

Gabe Heafitz '98 '04 wrote:
even though my friend Tyler '97 started the whole "goon" business, I was never very into it

I thought one of the Newmans started the 'you goon' thing?

 (And just for the record, when the Sun quoted me, I wasn't trying to claim the cheer had *always* been you goon. I was trying to explain the evolution of the cheer and things got a little garbled. Whether it was poor transcription on the part of Mike Morisy or all the cold meds I was on, I dunno. In any case, I didn't feel like quibbling, since in the balance, Mike's article got the general idea across fairly accurately.  And while I'm on the topic, didn't Gene Nighman get it backwards? I could have sworn it was 'fuck 'em up' first and only got turned into 'rough 'em up' after Schafer asked us to clean up our language.)

Anyway,  with regard to the asshole issue, the sad fact is that silence will always lose to a drunken few, thus you have to pick another word if you want to remove asshole from the cheer.  As such, I think Assclown is as good a choice as any. Of course, the distinction might be too subtle for the ushers in Lynah.