Ben Robertson transfer

[BearLover]

As to why he left, I don't know, probably a combination of multiple factors including financial reasons, the coaching change, and style of play.

Sounds about right. He was unhappy with how things were going at Cornell and thought he would progress better at Michigan. He also cites cost. (Which is weird, because if tuition were too high as the article states then you'd think he would qualify for financial aid.) And I bet the coaching change provided the impetus to make the switch. Nothing in the article about NIL or more eyes being on him.

Hugely disappointing in any event for someone who will wish he had a Cornell degree five years from now.

I didn't see anything in that article suggesting that he was unhappy with how things were going at Cornell.

"Though he says he was starting to find his footing at the end of Cornell's season, he felt that he wasn't playing to his full potential, and it wasn't just from a numbers standpoint."

"'I just kind of lost focus of just going out there and doing all the little things right,' Robertson said. 'It was definitely a little frustrating, but not because the production wasn't there, just because I don't think I really wanted to play the way I played through most of the season.'"

Seems clear to me he wasn't happy with how things were going at Cornell? Sounds like he was incredibly frustrated last season.

Last year was bad all around (until it wasn't). There's a difference between "I had a down year and it sucked that I didn't play well" and "I was unhappy being there."

I'm talking just about hockey (not school/social life), to be clear. I know this is circular logic, but I believe that if he were totally happy with how things were going hockey-wise, he wouldn't have transferred. It wasn't a good year for him, and I suspect he wasn't happy with how he was developing. It sounds like he was very frustrated the whole season, maybe that changed at the very end, but his mind may have already been made up by that point.

[TimV]

I'm imagining Jim Hyla, who has degrees from both schools, sitting by a fire while the snow flies in Syracuse, chuckling to himself.

[Al DeFlorio]

As to why he left, I don't know, probably a combination of multiple factors including financial reasons, the coaching change, and style of play.

Sounds about right. He was unhappy with how things were going at Cornell and thought he would progress better at Michigan. He also cites cost. (Which is weird, because if tuition were too high as the article states then you'd think he would qualify for financial aid.) And I bet the coaching change provided the impetus to make the switch. Nothing in the article about NIL or more eyes being on him.

Hugely disappointing in any event for someone who will wish he had a Cornell degree five years from now.

I didn't see anything in that article suggesting that he was unhappy with how things were going at Cornell.

"Though he says he was starting to find his footing at the end of Cornell's season, he felt that he wasn't playing to his full potential, and it wasn't just from a numbers standpoint."

"'I just kind of lost focus of just going out there and doing all the little things right,' Robertson said. 'It was definitely a little frustrating, but not because the production wasn't there, just because I don't think I really wanted to play the way I played through most of the season.'"

Seems clear to me he wasn't happy with how things were going at Cornell? Sounds like he was incredibly frustrated last season.

Last year was bad all around (until it wasn't). There's a difference between "I had a down year and it sucked that I didn't play well" and "I was unhappy being there."

I'm talking just about hockey (not school/social life), to be clear. I know this is circular logic, but I believe that if he were totally happy with how things were going hockey-wise, he wouldn't have transferred. It wasn't a good year for him, and I suspect he wasn't happy with how he was developing. It sounds like he was very frustrated the whole season, maybe that changed at the very end, but his mind may have already been made up by that point.

I guess something just has to be true if you believe it to be.

[I thought you had called for an end to this.] 

[BearLover]

As to why he left, I don't know, probably a combination of multiple factors including financial reasons, the coaching change, and style of play.

Sounds about right. He was unhappy with how things were going at Cornell and thought he would progress better at Michigan. He also cites cost. (Which is weird, because if tuition were too high as the article states then you'd think he would qualify for financial aid.) And I bet the coaching change provided the impetus to make the switch. Nothing in the article about NIL or more eyes being on him.

Hugely disappointing in any event for someone who will wish he had a Cornell degree five years from now.

I didn't see anything in that article suggesting that he was unhappy with how things were going at Cornell.

"Though he says he was starting to find his footing at the end of Cornell's season, he felt that he wasn't playing to his full potential, and it wasn't just from a numbers standpoint."

"'I just kind of lost focus of just going out there and doing all the little things right,' Robertson said. 'It was definitely a little frustrating, but not because the production wasn't there, just because I don't think I really wanted to play the way I played through most of the season.'"

Seems clear to me he wasn't happy with how things were going at Cornell? Sounds like he was incredibly frustrated last season.

Last year was bad all around (until it wasn't). There's a difference between "I had a down year and it sucked that I didn't play well" and "I was unhappy being there."

I'm talking just about hockey (not school/social life), to be clear. I know this is circular logic, but I believe that if he were totally happy with how things were going hockey-wise, he wouldn't have transferred. It wasn't a good year for him, and I suspect he wasn't happy with how he was developing. It sounds like he was very frustrated the whole season, maybe that changed at the very end, but his mind may have already been made up by that point.

I guess something just has to be true if you believe it to be.

[I thought you had called for an end to this.] 

No, absolutely not. That's why I wrote "I believe X" and also acknowledged a potential fault in my own logic, rather than stating X as a fact. If I think something is truth, I'll state that very clearly, no need for you to put words in my mouth.

[I called for an end to my argument with scoop85 because it felt like it was getting too heated after he said I have no idea what I'm talking about.]

I hope everyone had a warm and happy holiday yesterday.

[Jim Hyla]

I'm imagining Jim Hyla, who has degrees from both schools, sitting by a fire while the snow flies in Syracuse, chuckling to himself.

Totally correct, except no fire. As I was catching up on eLynah posts, I was thinking about my time and education at both schools. Both were my first choice at the time and in no way would I have chosen CU instead of UM for my rheumatology. CU just wasn't as good for me.

School is individual, not collective, even if the colleges want you to believe that. Sure maybe like BearLover showed, it's easy to get into finance, if that's what you like. But UM showed me that rheumatology can be fun and productive. That's why I'm still doing it going on 50 years.

It's really the same as CU hockey. They showed that it can be fun and productive to watch them, through good and bad. And that's why I'm still watching them after 60+ years.

You get out of something what you put into it, not what they say they have. That's why BearLover's stats don't mean anything, because we don't know what Robertson wants from life.

He says "Hugely disappointing in any event for someone who will wish he had a Cornell degree five years from now."

How the hell can we know that. We don't know what he wants out of life. I know if I went to a training program where those who were training me had the feeling that they were the best and everyone should realize it, I'd not come out the satisfied person that I sort of feel I am.

So CU is not the best place on earth for everyone. It was great for me at the time, and I have no idea if I would feel that way today if I was there. Let the students make their own decisions and not criticize them or CU hockey unless we have some sort of inside knowledge. All of them know a lot more than we do.

Endless speculation about things that we have no knowledge about makes this Forum no different than any other social media site. I used to come here for good honest discussion from people who loved watching CU hockey.

I loved hearing about critiques of plays or games, ideas about what we have to do to get to the NCAAs, or having a board near the end of the year where you can analyze who has to beat who for us to attain an end of season position.

Enough said. Now I'll go back to catching up on all that I've missed by not being on eLynah for 2 weeks.

Thanks to those that post about what they've seen from the games. I appreciate it.