Polls 2017-18

Started by Jim Hyla, October 07, 2017, 06:43:10 AM

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Trotsky

Quote from: jeff '84Looks like Jim is away from his desk....

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/

http://www.usahockey.com/college

Stay at #2 in both polls.
I expected Mankato to run all the way to #2.  I dare say they deserve it.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: jeff '84Looks like Jim is away from his desk....

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/

http://www.usahockey.com/college

Stay at #2 in both polls.

Just too busy, ::crazy::I'll post it all after work.

Men only got 2 FP votes, about right, in my view.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Restarted 2025, So far so good!

Jim Hyla

Here they are.


USCHO Division I Men's Poll - February 26, 2018
Rnk Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll

1 St. Cloud State (47) 21-6-5 996 1
[b][u]2 Cornell        (2) 23-4-2 905 2[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota State (1) 26-7-1 876 4
4 Denver        17-8-7 865 3
5 Notre Dame 23-9-2 797 5
6 Ohio State 21-8-5 792 6
7 Minnesota Duluth 18-13-3 654 9
8 Northeastern 21-8-5 603 11
9 Providence 20-10-4 586 7
[b][u]10 Clarkson 20-8-6 584 10[/u][/b]
11 Minnesota 19-15-2 487 8
12 Michigan 18-13-3 463 13
13 North Dakota 14-11-9 355 12
14 Omaha        16-14-2 318 14
15 Penn State 16-13-5 299 18
[b][u]16 Union        21-13-2 232 19[/u][/b]
17 Bowling Green 20-10-6 210 15
18 Boston College 18-13-3 194 20
19 Northern Michigan 21-12-3 177 16
20 Boston University 17-13-4 47 NR

Other Receiving Votes: Mercyhurst 29, Western Michigan 15,
UMass Lowell 7, [b][u]Harvard 5[/u][/b], Bemidji State 2, Maine 1, Colorado College 1

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
February 26, 2018
Team               Points (First) Last Poll Record

1 St. Cloud State Univer 510 (34) 1 21-6-5
[b][u]2 Cornell University 459 2 23-4-2[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota State Univer 413 5 26-7-1
4 University Notre Dame 407 3 23-9-2
5 University of Denver 391 4 17-8-7
6 Ohio State University 357 6 21-8-5
7 Univer Minnesota Duluth 274 11 18-13-3
8 Northeastern University 252 10 21-8-5
[b][u]9 Clarkson University 235 9 20-8-6[/u][/b]
10 Providence College 208 7 20-10-4
11 University of Minnesota 181 8 19-15-2
12 University of Michigan 146 13 18-13-3
13 Penn State University 71 NR 16-13-5
14 University North Dakota 55 12 14-11-9
15 Univer Nebraska Omaha 45 14 16-14-2

Others receiving votes: Bowling Green State University 23, [b][u]Union College 23[/u][/b],
Boston College 16, Northern Michigan University 7, UMass Lowell 3,
Western Michigan University 3, Mercyhurst University 1.

Men's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team        PWR W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank

1 St. Cloud State 59 21-6-5 0.7344 3 0.6044* 1
2 Notre Dame 57 23-9-2 0.7059 4 0.5822 2
[b][u]2 Cornell        57 23-4-2 0.8276 1 0.5783* 3[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota State 56 26-7-1 0.7794 2 0.5751* 4
4 Denver        56 17-8-7 0.6406 9 0.5736 5
6 Ohio State 54 21-8-5 0.6912 5 0.5730 6
[b][u]7 Clarkson 53 20-8-6 0.6765 7 0.5504 7[/u][/b]
8 Minnesota Duluth52 18-13-3 0.5735 14 0.5502 8
9 Minnesota 50 19-15-2 0.5556 19 0.5482 9
9 Michigan 50 18-13-3 0.5735 14 0.5456 10
11 Northeastern 49 21-8-5 0.6912 5 0.5443 11
12 Providence 48 20-10-4 0.6471 8 0.5426 12
13 Penn State 47 16-13-5 0.5441 21 0.5363 13
14 North Dakota 46 14-11-9 0.5441 21 0.5341 14
15 Omaha        45 16-14-2 0.5312 24 0.5339 15
16 Boston College 43 18-13-3 0.5735 14 0.5277 16
16 North Michigan 43 21-12-3 0.6250 11 0.5272 17
18 Bowling Green 41 20-10-6 0.6389 10 0.5254 19
[b][u]19 Union        40 21-13-2 0.6111 13 0.5269 18[/u][/b]
19 Western Michigan40 14-16-2 0.4688 39 0.5222 20
19 Boston Univer 40 17-13-4 0.5588 18 0.5208 21
22 Mercyhurst 38 19-11-4 0.6176 12 0.5172 22
23 Colorado College37 13-14-5 0.4844 34 0.5163 23
23 Wisconsin 37 14-17-4 0.4571 40 0.5143 24
[b][u]25 Harvard        35 13-12-4 0.5172 28 0.5112 25[/u][/b]


USCHO Division I Women's Poll - February 26, 2018
Rnk Team       (First) Record Points Last Poll

1 Wisconsin (14) 29-3-2 149 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson (1) 31-4-1 129 2[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 30-3-3 124 3
[b][u]4 Colgate        31-4-1 108 4[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 23-9-4 83 6
[b][u]6 Cornell        21-8-3 80 5[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 22-10-3 61 7
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 20-10-4 46 8[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 20-7-4 29 9
10 Maine 19-13-5 9 NR
Other Receiving Votes: Northeastern 4, Bemidji State 2, Providence 1

Women's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team        PWR W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank

1 Wisconsin 39 29-3-2 0.8824 1 0.6414* 1
2 Boston College 38 30-3-3 0.8750 2 0.6279 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 37 31-4-1 0.8750 2 0.6265* 3
4 Colgate        36 31-4-1 0.8750 2 0.6263* 4[/u][/b]
5 Saint Anselm 35 16-3-3 0.7955 5 0.5785* 5
6 Ohio State 34 23-9-4 0.6944 9 0.5725 6
[b][u]7 Cornell        33 21-8-3 0.7031 8 0.5684* 7[/u][/b]
8 Minnesota 32 22-10-3 0.6714 10 0.5612 8
[b][u]9 St. Lawrence 31 20-10-4 0.6471 11 0.5524 9[/u][/b]
10 Sacred Heart 30 17-6-2 0.7200 6 0.5457* 10
11 Robert Morris 29 20-7-4 0.7097 7 0.5419 11


"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Restarted 2025, So far so good!

jeff '84

Still #2 in both polls. Not that it matters, but any thoughts as to why Notre Dame (#2 in PWR via their better RPI vs Cornell) still haven't convinced the voters (#5 in USCHO; #4 in USA Today, who by now usually buy into the computer numbers.

http://www.usahockey.com/college

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/

Beeeej

Quote from: jeff '84Still #2 in both polls. Not that it matters, but any thoughts as to why Notre Dame (#2 in PWR via their better RPI vs Cornell) still haven't convinced the voters (#5 in USCHO; #4 in USA Today, who by now usually buy into the computer numbers.

http://www.usahockey.com/college

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/

They've lost four of their last five. That's not a small thing.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

KenP

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: jeff '84Still #2 in both polls. Not that it matters, but any thoughts as to why Notre Dame (#2 in PWR via their better RPI vs Cornell) still haven't convinced the voters (#5 in USCHO; #4 in USA Today, who by now usually buy into the computer numbers.

http://www.usahockey.com/college

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/

They've lost four of their last five. That's not a small thing.
But according to KRACH they have a 65% chance of beating Penn State on Saturday.

jeff '84

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: jeff '84Still #2 in both polls. Not that it matters, but any thoughts as to why Notre Dame (#2 in PWR via their better RPI vs Cornell) still haven't convinced the voters (#5 in USCHO; #4 in USA Today, who by now usually buy into the computer numbers.

http://www.usahockey.com/college

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/

They've lost four of their last five. That's not a small thing.

That's fair.

Jim Hyla


USCHO Division I Men's Poll - March 5, 2018
Rnk Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll

1 St. Cloud State (44) 22-6-6 992 1
[b][u]2 Cornell        (5) 23-4-2 924 2[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota State (1) 28-7-1 896 3
4 Denver        18-8-8 831 4
5 Notre Dame 23-9-2 815 5
6 Ohio State 23-8-5 772 6
7 Northeastern 21-8-5 646 8
8 Minnesota Duluth 19-14-3 616 7
9 Providence 20-10-4 586 9
[b][u]10 Clarkson 20-8-6 581 10[/u][/b]
11 Michigan 20-13-3 537 12
12 Penn State 18-13-5 406 15
13 Omaha        17-15-2 353 14
14 North Dakota 14-12-10317 13
15 Minnesota 19-17-2 303 11
[b][u]16 Union        21-13-2 253 16[/u][/b]
17 Bowling Green 22-10-6 233 17
18 Boston College 18-13-3 197 18
19 Northern Michigan 23-13-3 127 19
20 Boston University 17-13-4 64 20

Other Receiving Votes: Mercyhurst 29, [b][u]Harvard 9[/u][/b], Maine 7, Western Michigan 6

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
March 5, 2018
Team              Points  (First) Last Poll Record

1 St. Cloud State Univer  502 (28) 1 22-6-6
[b][u]2 Cornell University 466 (6) 2 23-4-2[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota State Univer 426 3 28-7-1
4 University of Notre Dame410 4 23-9-2
5 University of Denver 372 5 18-8-8
6 Ohio State University 352 6 23-8-5
7 Northeastern University 285 8 21-8-5
[b][u]8 Clarkson University 235 9 20-8-6[/u][/b]
9 Univer Minnesota Duluth 228 7 19-14-3
10 Providence College 214 10 20-10-4
11 University of Michigan 199 12 20-13-3
12 Penn State University 128 13 18-13-5
13 Univer Nebraska Omaha 75 15 17-15-2
14 University of Minnesota 65 11 19-17-2
[b][u]15 Union College        37 NR 21-13-2[/u][/b]

Others receiving votes: University of North Dakota 33, Bowling Green State University 28,
Boston College 18, Northern Michigan University 4, [b][u]Harvard University 2[/u][/b], Mercyhurst University 1.

Men's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team                PWR W-L-T  Win %  Win % Rank  RPI RPI Rank

1 St. Cloud State        59 22-6-6 0.7353 3 0.6019* 1
2 Notre Dame        57 23-9-2 0.7059 5 0.5819 2
[b][u]2 Cornell                57 23-4-2 0.8276 1 0.5780* 3[/u][/b]
4 Ohio State        56 23-8-5 0.7083 4 0.5768 4
5 Minnesota State        55 28-7-1 0.7917 2 0.5758* 5
5 Denver                55 18-8-8 0.6471 9 0.5707 6
7 Michigan        52 20-13-3 0.5972 14 0.5494 7
[b][u]7 Clarkson        52 20-8-6 0.6765 7 0.5493 8[/u][/b]
9 Minnesota Duluth 51 19-14-3 0.5694 16 0.5467 9
10 Northeastern        50 21-8-5 0.6912 6 0.5453 10
11 Penn State        49 18-13-5 0.5694 16 0.5441 11
12 Providence        48 20-10-4 0.6471 9 0.5435 12
13 Minnesota        47 19-17-2 0.5263 26 0.5413 13
14 Omaha                46 17-15-2 0.5294 23 0.5348 14
15 North Dakota        45 14-12-100.5278 25 0.5305 15
16 Bowling Green        44 22-10-6 0.6579 8 0.5298 16
17 Boston College        42 18-13-3 0.5735 15 0.5282 17
17 Northern Michigan 42 23-13-3 0.6282 11 0.5262 18
19 Boston University 41 17-13-4 0.5588 19 0.5221 20
[b][u]20 Union                39 21-13-2 0.6111 13 0.5257 19[/u][/b]
20 Western Michigan 39 15-17-2 0.4706 38 0.5211 21

KRACH: Division I Men

Rank Team       Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T  Win %  Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS

1 St. Cloud State 468.2 .8156 3 22-6-6 0.7353 2.778 3 174.4
[b][u]2 Cornell        387.9 .7864 1 23-4-2 0.8276 4.800 38 87.09[/u][/b]
3 Notre Dame 372.9 .7799 5 23-9-2 0.7059 2.400 10 159.8
4 Minnesota State 341.3 .7647 2 28-7-1 0.7917 3.800 31 94.14
5 Ohio State 335.4 .7617 4 23-8-5 0.7083 2.429 14 141.9
6 Denver        296.5 .7393 9 18-8-8 0.6471 1.833 8 164.7
7 Minnesota Duluth223.1 .6831 16 19-14-3 0.5694 1.323 6 169.9
8 Michigan 222.8 .6829 14 20-13-3 0.5972 1.483 12 151.9
[b][u]9 Clarkson 213.8 .6743 7 20-8-6 0.6765 2.091 19 104.6[/u][/b]
10 Minnesota 210.7 .6712 26 19-17-2 0.5263 1.111 1 190.2
11 Penn State 202.9 .6631 16 18-13-5 0.5694 1.323 11 154.6
12 Northeastern 194.4 .6539 6 21-8-5 0.6912 2.238 36 89.11
13 Omaha        190.6 .6496 23 17-15-2 0.5294 1.125 5 170.0
14 Providence 174.8 .6305 9 20-10-4 0.6471 1.833 27 97.13
15 North Dakota 168.4 .6221 25 14-12-100.5278 1.118 13 151.1
16 Boston College 159.9 .6103 15 18-13-3 0.5735 1.345 16 119.9
17 Bowling Green 155.1 .6034 8 22-10-6 0.6579 1.923 43 82.10
18 Boston Univer 147.2 .5914 19 17-13-4 0.5588 1.267 17 117.0
[b][u]19 Union        147.2 .5913 13 21-13-2 0.6111 1.571 29 94.84[/u][/b]
20 Western Michigan144.7 .5875 38 15-17-2 0.4706 0.889 9 162.3

Not that these matter anymore :-/ but here's the women.

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - March 5, 2018
Rnk Team       (First) Record Points Last Poll

[b][u]1 Clarkson (14) 33-4-1 149 2[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin (1) 30-4-2 136 1
[b][u]3 Colgate        32-5-1 119 4[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 30-4-3 106 3
5 Minnesota 24-10-3 83 7
6 Ohio State 23-10-4 77 5
[b][u]7 Cornell        21-9-3 62 6
8 St. Lawrence 20-11-4 40 8[/u][/b]
9 Northeastern 19-16-3 27 NR
10 Robert Morris 21-8-4 12 9

Other Receiving Votes: Mercyhurst 11, Maine 3

Women's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team        PWR W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank RPI  RPI Rank

[b][u]1 Clarkson 39 33-4-1 0.8816 1 0.6359* 1[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin 38 30-4-2 0.8611 2 0.6356* 2
[b][u]3 Colgate        37 32-5-1 0.8553 3 0.6242* 3[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 36 30-4-3 0.8514 4 0.6196 4
5 Saint Anselm 35 16-3-3 0.7955 5 0.5785* 5
6 Minnesota 34 24-10-3 0.6892 8 0.5718 6
7 Ohio State 33 23-10-4 0.6757 10 0.5683 7
[b][u]8 Cornell        32 21-9-3 0.6818 9 0.5631* 8
9 St. Lawrence 31 20-11-4 0.6286 11 0.5486 9[/u][/b]
10 Sacred Heart 30 17-6-2 0.7200 6 0.5455* 10

KRACH: National Collegiate Women

Rank Team       Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T  Win %  Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS

[b][u]1 Clarkson 1075. .8970 1 33-4-1 0.8816 7.444 13 158.0[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin 1024. .8927 2 30-4-2 0.8611 6.200 5 178.8
[b][u]3 Colgate        887.1 .8789 3 32-5-1 0.8553 5.909 11 161.3[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 769.6 .8640 4 30-4-3 0.8514 5.727 16 144.3
5 Minnesota 386.9 .7714 8 24-10-3 0.6892 2.217 6 178.6
6 Ohio State 354.0 .7568 10 23-10-4 0.6757 2.083 8 173.5
[b][u]7 Cornell        333.5 .7468 9 21-9-3 0.6818 2.143 12 159.5
8 St. Lawrence 272.8 .7109 11 20-11-4 0.6286 1.692 10 163.7[/u][/b]
9 Northeastern 218.9 .6685 16 19-16-3 0.5395 1.171 3 187.6


"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Restarted 2025, So far so good!

Jim Hyla

This means even less now, in fact I think once postseason play starts, they should stop polling, no one cares and there should not be a final end of season poll. We ave the playoffs, nothing else matters, even for discussing.

But, for completeness sake, I'll carry on.:-|


USCHO Division I Men's Poll - March 12, 2018
Rnk Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll

1 St. Cloud State (32) 24-7-6 975 1
[b][u]2 Cornell        (16) 25-4-2 954 2[/u][/b]
3 Notre Dame (1) 24-9-2 870 5
4 Denver        (1) 20-9-8 852 4
5 Ohio State 24-8-5 812 6
6 Minnesota State 29-9-1 736 3
7 Northeastern 23-8-5 689 7
8 Minnesota Duluth 21-14-3 644 8
9 Providence 22-10-4 601 9
[b][u]10 Clarkson 22-9-6 553 10[/u][/b]
11 Michigan 20-14-3 488 11
12 North Dakota 16-12-10415 14
13 Penn State 18-14-5 413 12
14 Boston College 20-13-3 301 18
15 Minnesota 19-17-2 298 15
16 Northern Michigan 25-14-3 241 19
17 Omaha        17-17-2 197 13
18 Boston University 19-13-4 172 20
19 Bowling Green 23-12-6 118 17
[b][u]20      Union        21-15-2 62 16[[/u][/b]

Other Receiving Votes: Mercyhurst 53, [b][u]Harvard 27[/u][/b],
Michigan Tech 20, [b][u]Princeton 9[/u][/b]

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
March 12, 2018
Team               Points (First) Last Poll Record

1 St. Cloud State Univer 498 (20) 1 24-7-6
[b][u]2 Cornell University 477 (14) 2 25-4-2[/u][/b]
3 University of Notre Dame439 4 24-9-2
4 Ohio State University 386 6 24-8-5
5 University of Denver 380 5 20-9-8
6 Minnesota State Univer 346 3 29-9-1
7 Northeastern University 294 7 23-8-5
8 Univer Minnesota Duluth 252 9 21-14-3
9 Providence College 243 10 22-10-4
[b][u]10 Clarkson University 215 8 22-9-6[/u][/b]
11 University of Michigan 169 11 20-14-3
12 Penn State University 102 12 18-14-5
13 University North Dakota 90 NR 16-12-10
14 University of Minnesota 70 14 19-17-2
15 Boston College        36 NR 20-13-3

Others receiving votes: Northern Michigan University 24,
University of Nebraska Omaha 20, [b][u]Union College 16[/u][/b],
[b][u]Harvard University 12[/u][/b], Bowling Green State University 7,
Mercyhurst University 4.

Men's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team       PWR W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank

1 St. Cloud State 59 24-7-6 0.7297 3 0.5943* 1
2 Notre Dame 57 24-9-2 0.7143 5 0.5830 2
[b][u]2 Cornell        57 25-4-2 0.8387 1 0.5824* 3[/u][/b]
4 Ohio State 56 24-8-5 0.7162 4 0.5783 4
4 Denver        56 20-9-8 0.6486 9 0.5658 5
6 Minnesota State 54 29-9-1 0.7564 2 0.5644* 6
7 Northeastern 53 23-8-5 0.7083 6 0.5497 7
8 Minnesota Duluth51 21-14-3 0.5921 14 0.5480 8
8 Providence 51 22-10-4 0.6667 8 0.5479 9
10 Michigan 49 20-14-3 0.5811 16 0.5456 10
[b][u]10 Clarkson 49 22-9-6 0.6757 7 0.5453 11[/u][/b]
12 Penn State 48 18-14-5 0.5541 21 0.5415 12
13 Minnesota 47 19-17-2 0.5263 25 0.5406 13
14 North Dakota 46 16-12-10 0.5526 22 0.5334 14
15 Boston College 44 20-13-3 0.5972 13 0.5333 15
16 Bowling Green 43 23-12-6 0.6341 11 0.5268 16
16 North'n Michigan43 25-14-3 0.6310 12 0.5263 17
18 Boston Univer 42 19-13-4 0.5833 15 0.5259 18
18 Omaha        42 17-17-2 0.5000 28 0.5258 19
20 Mercyhurst 40 21-11-4 0.6389 10 0.5223 20
[b][u]21 Union        38 21-15-2 0.5789 17 0.5172 21
21 Princeton 38 17-12-4 0.5758 19 0.5147 22[/u][/b]

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - March 5, 2018
Rnk Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll

[b][u]1 Clarkson (14) 33-4-1 149 2[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin (1) 30-4-2 136 1
[b][u]3 Colgate        32-5-1 119 4[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 30-4-3 106 3
5 Minnesota 24-10-3 83 7
6 Ohio State 23-10-4 77 5
[b][u]7 Cornell        21-9-3 62 6
8 St. Lawrence 20-11-4 40 8[/u][/b]
9 Northeastern 19-16-3 27 NR
10 Robert Morris 21-8-4 12 9

Other Receiving Votes: Mercyhurst 11, Maine 3

Women's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team       PWR      W-L-T  Win %  Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank

1 Wisconsin 39 31-4-2 0.8649 2 0.6401* 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson 38 34-4-1 0.8846 1 0.6369* 2
3 Colgate        37 33-5-1 0.8590 3 0.6267* 3[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 36 30-5-3 0.8289 4 0.6123 4
5 Saint Anselm 35 16-3-3 0.7955 5 0.5785* 5
6 Ohio State 34 24-10-4 0.6842 8 0.5743 6
7 Minnesota 33 24-11-3 0.6711 10 0.5691 7
[b][u]8 Cornell        32 21-9-3 0.6818 9 0.5634* 8
9 St. Lawrence 31 20-11-4 0.6286 11 0.5485 9[/u][/b]
10 Sacred Heart 30 17-6-2 0.7200 6 0.5455* 10


"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Restarted 2025, So far so good!

Trotsky

In all honesty now that we have metrics like PWR there is no point to have polls anymore.  They were always BS anyway.  Nobody watches even a fraction of the teams and all the polling is "move my team up, rank the teams I've seen, copy everybody else on the ones I haven't."

Jim Hyla

Quote from: TrotskyIn all honesty now that we have metrics like PWR there is no point to have polls anymore.  They were always BS anyway.  Nobody watches even a fraction of the teams and all the polling is "move my team up, rank the teams I've seen, copy everybody else on the ones I haven't."

The only reason I can see for polls is to start discussion in the early part of the season, before there's enough data to get a reasonable PWR.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Restarted 2025, So far so good!

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: TrotskyIn all honesty now that we have metrics like PWR there is no point to have polls anymore.  They were always BS anyway.  Nobody watches even a fraction of the teams and all the polling is "move my team up, rank the teams I've seen, copy everybody else on the ones I haven't."

The only reason I can see for polls is to start discussion in the early part of the season, before there's enough data to get a reasonable PWR.
That's fair.  Although I think even then polls aren't about real performance but last year's best finishers, a couple anticipated drops from graduations, seasoned with recruiting hype.

Jim Hyla

Not that this matters anymore, even for discussion, but here it is.


USCHO Division I Men's Poll - March 19, 2018
Rnk Team       (First) Record Points Last Poll

1 St. Cloud State (28) 25-8-6 966 1
2 Notre Dame (14) 25-9-2 956 3
3 Denver        (7) 22-9-8 893 4
[b][u]4 Cornell        (1) 25-5-2 859 2[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 24-9-5 815 5
6 Minnesota State 29-9-1 743 6
7 Providence 23-11-4 661 9
8 Northeastern 23-9-5 644 7
[b][u]9 Clarkson 23-10-6 581 10[/u][/b]
10 Michigan 20-14-3 541 11
11 Minnesota Duluth 21-16-3 508 8
12 Penn State 18-14-5 429 13
13 Boston University 21-13-4 366 18
14 North Dakota 17-13-10 343 12
15 Minnesota 19-17-2 247 15
[b][u]16 Princeton 19-12-4 198 NR[/u][/b]
17 Boston College 20-14-3 188 14
18 Michigan Tech 22-16-5 175 NR
19 Northern Michigan 25-15-3 112 16
20 Omaha        17-17-2 80 17

Other Receiving Votes: Air Force 78, Bowling Green 76,
Mercyhurst 16, [b][u]Harvard 14, Union 10[/u][/b], Robert Morris 1

Men's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team        PWR W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank

1 St. Cloud State 59 25-8-6 0.7179 4 0.5917* 1
2 Notre Dame 57 25-9-2 0.7222 3 0.5864* 2
[b][u]2 Cornell        57 25-5-2 0.8125 1 0.5762* 3[/u][/b]
4 Ohio State 56 24-9-5 0.6974 5 0.5755 4
4 Denver        56 22-9-8 0.6667 7 0.5746 5
6 Minnesota State 54 29-9-1 0.7564 2 0.5645* 6
7 Providence 53 23-11-4 0.6579 9 0.5474 7
8 Michigan 51 20-14-3 0.5811 16 0.5453 8
8 Northeastern 51 23-9-5 0.6892 6 0.5449 9
[b][u]10 Clarkson 50 23-10-6 0.6667 7 0.5432 10[/u][/b]
11 Penn State 49 18-14-5 0.5541 21 0.5412 11
12 Minnesota Duluth47 21-16-3 0.5625 20 0.5404 12
12 Minnesota 47 19-17-2 0.5263 23 0.5403 13
14 North Dakota 46 17-13-10 0.5500 22 0.5350 14
15 Boston Univer 45 21-13-4 0.6053 13 0.5340 15
16 Boston College 42 20-14-3 0.5811 16 0.5298 16
16 Bowling Green 42 23-12-6 0.6341 10 0.5261 17
[b][u]16 Princeton 42 19-12-4 0.6000 14 0.5259 18[/u][/b]

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - March 19, 2018
Rnk Team       (First) Record Points Last Poll

[b][u]1 Clarkson (15) 36-4-1 150 1
2 Colgate        34-6-1 133 3[/u][/b]
3 Wisconsin 31-5-2 122 2
4 Ohio State 24-11-4 104 6
5 Boston College 30-5-3 89 4
6 Minnesota 24-11-3 76 5
[b][u]7 Cornell        21-9-3 51 7[/u][/b]
8 Northeastern 19-17-3 36 9
[b][u]8 St. Lawrence 20-11-4 36 8[/u][/b]
10 Mercyhurst 18-15-4 27 NR

Other Receiving Votes: Robert Morris 1

Women's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team        PWR W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank

[b][u]1 Clarkson 39 36-4-1 0.8902 1 0.6465* 1[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin 38 31-5-2 0.8421 2 0.6317* 2
[b][u]3 Colgate        37 34-6-1 0.8415 3 0.6268* 3[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 36 30-5-3 0.8289 4 0.6119 4
5 Saint Anselm 35 16-3-3 0.7955 5 0.5785* 5
6 Ohio State 34 24-11-4 0.6667 10 0.5685 6
7 Minnesota 33 24-11-3 0.6711 9 0.5664 7
[b][u]8 Cornell        32 21-9-3 0.6818 8 0.5638* 8
9 St. Lawrence 31 20-11-4 0.6286 11 0.5495 9[/u][/b]
10 Sacred Heart 30 17-6-2 0.7200 6 0.5455* 10

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Restarted 2025, So far so good!