Quarterfinals at Q

[Killer]

The second game-
Reminds me of the Cornell-BU game in 197? In which BU beat us 9-0 at Lynah. (BU was later forced to forfeit the game, which was Cornell's first loss at Lynah in years) like this one, the game just got away from us. Hopefully we can wake up tomorrow with no hangover  and get out act together.

I remember that game all-too-well.  'Round about 5-0 last night, I started looking for a Decloe on the QU roster.  No such luck.

[Scersk '97]

So do we wonder why?

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Penalty Minutes:              Games    PIM     PIM/G
  1 Cornell                     33     597      18.1
  2 Quinnipiac                  36     599      16.6

That's the thing.  Quinnipiac's team is not full of a bunch of church mice.  They've gotten into a few donnybrooks this year, and there have been some other games full of penalties.  (Take a look at their last game against Yale; take a look at their last game against Colgate.)

Sure, our team is a bit thuggish this year, but Quinnipiac responded in kind last night.  No player should take a run at another the way that Goodman (a senior, mind you) took a run at Ryan—our hands down best defenseman—last night.  That's why he got a double major, which I've never before seen handed out, and that's why he should've gotten a game DQ.  If the refs hadn't been such ninnies, they would've handed out a DQ to each team after the fight at the end of the second and then said, "Who else wants to sit tomorrow night?"  That would've ended it.  (Or at least game misconducts for everyone.  I had hoped that McCarron, in particular, was going to get a gamer, since he doesn't respond well to these situations.  No matter how much I like the way he pests for us, I didn't want to see him get injured in the 3rd.) Instead, they handed out multiple 2s and 10s, which you just knew were going to lead to more extracurriculars in the 3rd.  If that's a policy handed down from on high by Stewart, the ECAC's head of officials, it's a stupid policy that removes any chance for refs to take control of a potentially explosive situation.

People here are a bit naive about fighting in hockey and why it happens.  That kind of hit could've ended Ryan's season—perhaps his career.  I've seen it happen in the past, and I've seen Schafer respond similarly.  I remember seeing Jason Kendall get a signal to knock some sense into a guy at Brown once, and I'm sure Craig got that signal last night.  Good for Schafer, and good for him.  Pecknold should've called off the dogs.  He didn't.  What else are you going to do?

[David Harding]

So do we wonder why?

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Penalty Minutes:              Games    PIM     PIM/G
  1 Cornell                     33     597      18.1
  2 Quinnipiac                  36     599      16.6

According to uscho we are #1 in PIM/G by a long shot. Q is #2 and we out sat them by 1.5 min/game.

http://www.uscho.com/stats/overall/division-i-men/2012-2013/

Note the big gap between #1 and #2 vs 2 and 3 ect.

Not quoted but easily calculated:  Cornell also leads in minutes/penalty, followed closely by Q, with #3 and the rest way behind.

[Trotsky]

Sure, our team is a bit thuggish this year, but Quinnipiac responded in kind last night.  No player should take a run at another the way that Goodman (a senior, mind you) took a run at Ryan—our hands down best defenseman—last night.  That's why he got a double major, which I've never before seen handed out, and that's why he should've gotten a game DQ.

Schafer actually mentioned in the pre-game before Game 2 that playing Q is like playing an inter-squad game; they play a brand of hockey very similar to ours.

We will see what our team is made of tonight.  Was Friday or Saturday the anomaly?

[Trotsky]

As much as I like Old Time Hockey and Eddie Shore, you do not send out a headhunter to foil headhunting.  In a league with fighting, you do send a fighter -- that's part of the game.  But in our league, you send the tape to the league office and get the kid suspended, just like Schafer did with van Brabant.  Vigilantism only screws you because you wind up getting nailed for retaliation, not to mention the risk to your own players from further escalation.

"The Code" is bullshit.

[rdez79]

the key today is get a good 1st period either tied or ahead and playing well.

[Scersk '97]

As much as I like Old Time Hockey and Eddie Shore, you do not send out a headhunter to foil headhunting.  In a league with fighting, you do send a fighter -- that's part of the game.  But in our league, you send the tape to the league office and get the kid suspended, just like Schafer did with van Brabant.  Vigilantism only screws you because you wind up getting nailed for retaliation, not to mention the risk to your own players from further escalation.

It seems to me as if refs aren't empowered—by their league supervisor?—to take control of playoff games, however.  If there isn't adequate supervision during the game, what are you supposed to do?  In my opinion, a few game misconducts would've lead to a very placid 3rd.

Yeah, I don't like to watch headhunting and idiocy either, but what are you supposed to do?  Dias should've gotten an immediate DQ.  Goodman should've gotten an immediate DQ.  Craig got a two and ten for his headhunting charge.  Yeesh.

[dpd]

Do we have any DQ'ed for tonight?

[Trotsky]

Do we have any DQ'ed for tonight?

The box says no, but there could always be tapes going to the league office (by either team).

[Trotsky]

As much as I like Old Time Hockey and Eddie Shore, you do not send out a headhunter to foil headhunting.  In a league with fighting, you do send a fighter -- that's part of the game.  But in our league, you send the tape to the league office and get the kid suspended, just like Schafer did with van Brabant.  Vigilantism only screws you because you wind up getting nailed for retaliation, not to mention the risk to your own players from further escalation.

It seems to me as if refs aren't empowered—by their league supervisor?—to take control of playoff games, however.  If there isn't adequate supervision during the game, what are you supposed to do?  In my opinion, a few game misconducts would've lead to a very placid 3rd.

Yeah, I don't like to watch headhunting and idiocy either, but what are you supposed to do?  Dias should've gotten an immediate DQ.  Goodman should've gotten an immediate DQ.  Craig got a two and ten for his headhunting charge.  Yeesh.

Bear in mind that when their guy crosschecks our guy apparently "out of nowhere," it's most likely because our guy crosschecked their guy behind the play and we didn't see it.  That's why vendettas are endless.

[Jordan 04]

the key today is get a good 1st period either tied or ahead and playing well.

Or fall behind but come back to win like we did just 2 nights ago against the same opponent.

The only cliché that applies tonight is "win or go home."

[dbilmes]

My take was putting AI back in was Schafer underlining that pulling Andy in the first place had nothing to do with Andy.

Did Schafer have any post-game comments?  Does the ECAC fine a coach who refuses to do interviews?

[dbilmes]

My take was putting AI back in was Schafer underlining that pulling Andy in the first place had nothing to do with Andy.

Did Schafer have any post-game comments?  Does the ECAC fine a coach who refuses to do interviews?

Schafer was quoted in USCHO article.