Cornell 2 Yale 2, postgame

Started by Trotsky, January 26, 2008, 10:16:22 PM

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Rosey

On a mostly unrelated note, I thought the image of Mr. Burns on the Yale sieve's helmet was pretty amusing.  Noticing this then prompted about 5 minutes of Simpsons quoting between me and my friends.  My favorite Ivy mention in the Simpsons is this exchange between Sideshow Bob and his brother Cecil:

Bob: You wanted to be Krusty's sidekick since you were five. What about the buffoon lessons, the four years at clown college?
Cecil: I'll thank you not to refer to Princeton that way.

Kyle
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RichH

[quote krose]On a mostly unrelated note, I thought the image of Mr. Burns on the Yale sieve's helmet was pretty amusing.  Noticing this then prompted about 5 minutes of Simpsons quoting between me and my friends.  My favorite Ivy mention in the Simpsons is this exchange between Sideshow Bob and his brother Cecil:

Bob: You wanted to be Krusty's sidekick since you were five. What about the buffoon lessons, the four years at clown college?
Cecil: I'll thank you not to refer to Princeton that way.

Kyle[/quote]

A list of Ivy references still exists at snpp.com.  While a lot of them are either innaccurate ("Penn State" pennant doesn't refer to Penn) or speculative (comparing Springfield College to Cornell), some are very subtle (all the references to the Harvard Lampoon addresses).  Cornell finally got a couple concrete references, thanks to Sideshow Mel and Thomas Pynchon.  Columbia remains shut out, to the best of my knowledge.

http://www.snpp.com/guides/ivy.html

To steer back towards being on-topic, since a lot of the early writers were Harvard products of the mid-80s, some friends of mine have discussed the possibility of Cornell hockey influences.  

In "Bart vs. Thanksgiving," there's a fantasy sequence where the whole family starts chanting "It's all your fault" in a familiar cadence.  
http://www.snpp.com/episodes/7F07.html
mp3 clip: http://download.lardlad.com/sounds/season2/thanksgiving12.mp3

And the hockey episode, "Lisa on Ice," the opposing fans perform deuling chants.  The pro-Bart fans: "KILL, Bart!  KILL, Bart!" are echoed by the pro-Lisa fans: "Kill BART!  Kill BART!"  It's interesting to wonder if there were any future writers watching games in the era of the "KILL, SCHAFER, KILL!" chant.  Again, purely speculative, but still...
http://www.snpp.com/episodes/2F05.html

All of this is designed to fight off my depression that there are probably some undergrads at Cornell now who weren't even born when "The Simpsons" (as its own TV show) debuted.

KeithK

[quote RichH]All of this is designed to fight off my depression that there are probably some undergrads at Cornell now who weren't even born when "The Simpsons" (as its own TV show) debuted.[/quote]
I hate you for reminding me of that.

Rita

[quote KeithK][quote RichH]All of this is designed to fight off my depression that there are probably some undergrads at Cornell now who weren't even born when "The Simpsons" (as its own TV show) debuted.[/quote]
I hate you for reminding me of that.[/quote]

Ditto. As a token of my "gratitude" for reminding me about the differences between the kids today and me, I'm prepared to send you several of my grey hairs. ::cry::

PS, for anyone else who would like a trip down "memory lane", the NFL network is showing the 1987 NY Giants-Denver Bronco SuperBowl. It might be worth tuning it to see the "graphics" of the day. However, it is kind of nice without all the ticker/timeout/clock stuff at the top of the screen.

amerks127

Quote from: RichHAll of this is designed to fight off my depression that there are probably some undergrads at Cornell now who weren't even born when "The Simpsons" (as its own TV show) debuted.

Well how does this taste?...When The Simpsons debuted on The Tracey Ullman Show on April 19, 1987, some juniors weren't even born yet.

Beeeej

[quote krose]On a mostly unrelated note, I thought the image of Mr. Burns on the Yale sieve's helmet was pretty amusing.  Noticing this then prompted about 5 minutes of Simpsons quoting between me and my friends.  My favorite Ivy mention in the Simpsons is this exchange between Sideshow Bob and his brother Cecil:

Bob: You wanted to be Krusty's sidekick since you were five. What about the buffoon lessons, the four years at clown college?
Cecil: I'll thank you not to refer to Princeton that way.

Kyle[/quote]

That's my second favorite Ivy reference from animated shows... my favorite, thought I don't watch "The Family Guy" at all, is from the one episode I ever have watched:

Wellsley Sheperdson: "Ooh, my incarcerated business partner's retarded gay niece went to Brown.  What year did you graduate?"
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

RichH

[quote Rita]As a token of my "gratitude" for reminding me about the differences between the kids today and me, I'm prepared to send you several of my grey hairs. ::cry::[/quote]

Great.  I'll make sure to be extra creeped out when I open that envelope. ::uhoh::

[quote amerks127]Well how does this taste?...When The Simpsons debuted on The Tracey Ullman Show on April 19, 1987, some juniors weren't even born yet.[/quote]

Yeah, that's why I made my parenthetical about it being its own show, 1) because I knew someone would make the Ullman statement and 2) I didn't want "that guy" to be me.  :-D  Even though I religiously watched both shows from the beginning.  "The Simpsons" premiere was much more of a seminal event for me...the fact that college kids weren't around for it blows my mind.

BillCharlton

[quote RichH][quote Rita]As a token of my "gratitude" for reminding me about the differences between the kids today and me, I'm prepared to send you several of my grey hairs. ::cry::[/quote]

Great.  I'll make sure to be extra creeped out when I open that envelope. ::uhoh::

[quote amerks127]Well how does this taste?...When The Simpsons debuted on The Tracey Ullman Show on April 19, 1987, some juniors weren't even born yet.[/quote]

Yeah, that's why I made my parenthetical about it being its own show, 1) because I knew someone would make the Ullman statement and 2) I didn't want "that guy" to be me.  :-D  Even though I religiously watched both shows from the beginning.  "The Simpsons" premiere was much more of a seminal event for me...the fact that college kids weren't around for it blows my mind.[/quote]

What really blows my mind is that I used to read Matt Groening's comic strip, "Life in hell," in the early 1980s. That predates the current students and the Simpsons by at least a half a generation. IMO Groening did his best work in "Work in Hell" and "Love is Hell." When I first read this stuff I did not believe any of it (I was young and foolish!). I have learned over time, however, that he knew what he was talking about.

DeltaOne81

[quote Beeeej][quote krose]
Bob: You wanted to be Krusty's sidekick since you were five. What about the buffoon lessons, the four years at clown college?
Cecil: I'll thank you not to refer to Princeton that way.

Kyle[/quote]

That's my second favorite Ivy reference from animated shows... my favorite, thought I don't watch "The Family Guy" at all, is from the one episode I ever have watched:

Wellsley Sheperdson: "Ooh, my incarcerated business partner's retarded gay niece went to Brown.  What year did you graduate?"[/quote]

the Pope: Are you sure this is Boston?
Peter: Yeah, its Boston. See, there's Harvard.
the Pope: That's just a barn!
Peter: Oooo, somebody went to Yale

KeithK

[quote RichH]"The Simpsons" premiere was much more of a seminal event for me...the fact that college kids weren't around for it blows my mind.[/quote]
Agreed.  Especially since I started college in '89.  And the dorm cable didn't get Fox freshman year.

Trotsky

[quote BillCharlton]What really blows my mind is that I used to read Matt Groening's comic strip, "Life in hell," in the early 1980s. That predates the current students and the Simpsons by at least a half a generation. IMO Groening did his best work in "Work in Hell" and "Love is Hell." [/quote]You are correct.  Happily, there's a three-volume collection called "Big Box of Hell" with a lot of great stuff, including his amazing 16- and 32-panel "Guide  to Types of" Boyfriends, Girlfriends, Parents, Teachers, etc.  The forward explains that Groening "rhymes with 'complaining.'"