Ned Harkness to be honored at RPI

Started by ursusminor, November 30, 2006, 11:48:03 AM

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nyc94

[quote Trotsky][quote ursusminor]Perhaps in honor of Uncle Ned, I should change my avatar again. The current one shows Doug Hearns scoring the overtime goal vs. Cornell and Ken Dryden on 12/4/1968, one of the most memorable games that I have attended. The defender on the left is Bruce Pattison. IIRC, this was Cornell's last ECAC loss under Harkness.[/quote]

For the remainder of Ned's tenure, Cornell went 54-1.  The only loss was to Denver in Colorado Springs, in the 1969 NCAA final.[/quote]

I can only dream as to how much fun the USCHO forums would have been if they existed then.

The wikipedia entry on Ned Harkness is pretty weak.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Harkness

DeltaOne81

[quote nyc94]
The wikipedia entry on Ned Harkness is pretty weak.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Harkness[/quote]

I see one inaccuracy? Anyone? :)

Beeeej

[quote DeltaOne81][quote nyc94]
The wikipedia entry on Ned Harkness is pretty weak.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Harkness[/quote]

I see one inaccuracy? Anyone? :)[/quote]

It leaves out his NCAA hockey championship at RPI.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

ursusminor

[quote Beeeej][quote DeltaOne81][quote nyc94]
The wikipedia entry on Ned Harkness is pretty weak.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Harkness[/quote]

I see one inaccuracy? Anyone? :)[/quote]

It leaves out his NCAA hockey championship at RPI.[/quote] It must have been written by either a Cornell fan or a lacrosse fan. It also omits his tenure at Union, not that much occurred except for his getting in trouble with the Union heirarchy.


Before RichS shows up ;), the article states that Cornell had in 1970 the "only undefeated ice hockey team in NCAA history". That should be the "only undefeated NCAA hockey champion".

ninian '72

[quote Beeeej][quote ursusminor][quote Beeeej][quote ursusminor]Ned Harkness is to be the third honoree in RPI's Ring of Honor. http://www.rpiathletics.com/News/hockey/2006/11/30/harkness113006.asp?path=hockey Why the 'Tute is doing this during the Colgate game instead of waiting a day until Cornell is in town is beyond me.[/quote]

It's possible that didn't fit with Ned's schedule.[/quote]

True, but do you think that Ned has a busy schedule these days?[/quote]

I don't keep the man's calendar, I'm offering a hypothetical where you didn't seem to see any possibilities.  :-)

Maybe, in fact, Ned declined to receive such an honor during the Cornell game, out of respect to Cornell.  I would believe that.[/quote]

It will be curious to see if he hangs around for the Saturday game, though.  I'd be amazed if he doesn't.

Al DeFlorio

[quote DeltaOne81][quote nyc94]
The wikipedia entry on Ned Harkness is pretty weak.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Harkness[/quote]

I see one inaccuracy? Anyone? :)[/quote]
He coached lacrosse at Cornell for three years, not two.
Al DeFlorio '65

jtwcornell91

[quote ursusminor]The current one shows Doug Hearns scoring the overtime goal vs. Cornell and Ken Dryden on 12/4/1968, one of the most memorable games that I have attended.[/quote]

That must also have been the last GWG for RPI against Cornell until the one scored with the stick that was mailed to Bob Stagat (may be rest in peace), right?

jtwcornell91

Well, it's Wikipedia, people.  Fix it!

DeltaOne81

[quote ursusminor]
Before RichS shows up ;), the article states that Cornell had in 1970 the "only undefeated ice hockey team in NCAA history". That should be the "only undefeated NCAA hockey champion".[/quote]

That would be the one I was referring to. Leaving out a title at RPI may be incoomplete, but its not 'inaccurate'.


[quote jtwcornell91]
Well, it's Wikipedia, people. Fix it![/quote]

Well it wouldn't be very sporting of me to say there was an error, and then fix it before anyone could guess, now would it? ;)

Its fixed now. And I confirmed Al's mention of three years, and fixed that too.

ursusminor

[quote jtwcornell91][quote ursusminor]The current one shows Doug Hearns scoring the overtime goal vs. Cornell and Ken Dryden on 12/4/1968, one of the most memorable games that I have attended.[/quote]

That must also have been the last GWG for RPI against Cornell until the one scored with the stick that was mailed to Bob Stagat (may be rest in peace), right?[/quote] Bob had the stick from 12/4/1968. See http://lists.maine.edu/cgi/wa?A2=ind9802&L=HOCKEY-L&P=R20480&I=-3. I hope that his wife didn't discard it.


The game two years later was a veritable rout by RPI. :-D (I'll omit my memories of the two games RPI played Cornell during Cornell's perfect season, especially the disaster at MSG.)

ursusminor

[quote DeltaOne81][quote ursusminor]
Before RichS shows up ;), the article states that Cornell had in 1970 the "only undefeated ice hockey team in NCAA history". That should be the "only undefeated NCAA hockey champion".[/quote]

That would be the one I was referring to. Leaving out a title at RPI may be incoomplete, but its not 'inaccurate'.


[quote jtwcornell91]
Well, it's Wikipedia, people. Fix it![/quote]

Well it wouldn't be very sporting of me to say there was an error, and then fix it before anyone could guess, now would it? ;)

Its fixed now. And I confirmed Al's mention of three years, and fixed that too.[/quote]

You have introduced a new error. RPI was not in the 1952 NCAA Tourney although Harkness did take them there three times: 1953, 1954, and 1961. Since I am an RPI grad and can's write a coherent sentence, I'll let someone else fix it. :-P

nyc94

[quote ursusminor][quote DeltaOne81][quote ursusminor]
Before RichS shows up ;), the article states that Cornell had in 1970 the "only undefeated ice hockey team in NCAA history". That should be the "only undefeated NCAA hockey champion".[/quote]

That would be the one I was referring to. Leaving out a title at RPI may be incoomplete, but its not 'inaccurate'.


[quote jtwcornell91]
Well, it's Wikipedia, people. Fix it![/quote]

Well it wouldn't be very sporting of me to say there was an error, and then fix it before anyone could guess, now would it? ;)

Its fixed now. And I confirmed Al's mention of three years, and fixed that too.[/quote]

You have introduced a new error. RPI was not in the 1952 NCAA Tourney although Harkness did take them there three times: 1953, 1954, and 1961. Since I am an RPI grad and can's write a coherent sentence, I'll let someone else fix it. :-P[/quote]

I did that and I'll fix it.  My eyes wandered over one column to RS champs on Ned's USCHO page.

billhoward

[quote nyc94][quote Trotsky][quote ursusminor]Perhaps in honor of Uncle Ned, I should change my avatar again. The current one shows Doug Hearns scoring the overtime goal vs. Cornell and Ken Dryden on 12/4/1968, one of the most memorable games that I have attended. The defender on the left is Bruce Pattison. IIRC, this was Cornell's last ECAC loss under Harkness.[/quote]

For the remainder of Ned's tenure, Cornell went 54-1.  The only loss was to Denver in Colorado Springs, in the 1969 NCAA final.[/quote]

I can only dream as to how much fun the USCHO forums would have been if they existed then.

The wikipedia entry on Ned Harkness is pretty weak.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Harkness[/quote]

The Harkness record was great then, would be great now, but it happened while John Wooden rolled up, what, nine NCAA titles in ten years. Maybe people thought a really good coach could run the table multiple years in a row.

"How much fun the USCHO forums would be" if they existed then? You mean how insufferable Cornell fans would be? If we had eLynah back then, poor RichS ... at least there'd be a cause for the nocturnal uresis issue in the college years.

DeltaOne81

[quote nyc94][quote ursusminor][quote DeltaOne81]
That would be the one I was referring to. Leaving out a title at RPI may be incoomplete, but its not 'inaccurate'.

Well it wouldn't be very sporting of me to say there was an error, and then fix it before anyone could guess, now would it? ;)

Its fixed now. And I confirmed Al's mention of three years, and fixed that too.[/quote]

You have introduced a new error. RPI was not in the 1952 NCAA Tourney although Harkness did take them there three times: 1953, 1954, and 1961. Since I am an RPI grad and can's write a coherent sentence, I'll let someone else fix it. :-P[/quote]

I did that and I'll fix it.  My eyes wandered over one column to RS champs on Ned's USCHO page.[/quote]

Yeah, how dare you accuse me :-P