ELynah Forum

Jessiman had a bunch of injury problems a few years ago, I recall him missing most of his junior year with an ankle injury.

Us Ranger fans are still bitter over the pick, but it's ok because the remedies are already here, there names are: Brandon Dubinsky, Marc Staal, Nigel Dawes, Ryan Callahan, Dan Girardi, Fedor Tyutin, and Henrik Lundqvist.

What's somewhat funny is that, with the exception of Staal, the Rangers have done poorly in the first round, but they've cleaned up in the later rounds.  They've survived the Jessiman pick.

That's absolutely true.  

The reason Jessiman gets so much flack is because the 2003 first round was the exception to the rule.  Just about everyone drafted in that round has become a big player, the Rangers missed in the only first round in twenty years where it seems impossible to do so.  Unbelievable.  But I guess it's really time to stop complaining, seeing as the organization is both good, and getting younger quite rapidly.  Still, hurts to think of what could have been with a Ryan Getzlaf, or a Brent Seabrook, or Zach Parise, or...you get the idea.

[quote Josh '99][quote evilnaturedrobot][quote Josh '99][quote RichH]ECAC representation I spotted: A fair number of various Clarkson jerseys, RPI, SLU, Princeton.  I saw a Union and a Colgate hat, and there was a guy in a Yale sweatshirt at the Saturday skate at the Pepsi Center.[/quote]I took a picture of St. Lawrence Jersey Tucked Into Jeans Guy.  Not as funny as Shirtless Painted Chest Hockey Helmet Harvard Guy but still pretty good.[/quote]

are you referring to the ones that came to Lynah this year?  The most amusing (and confusing) aspect of those guys was that they painted their chests with Princeton colors.  At least, that was how it looked from section A.  Though perhaps this has already been commented on, I recall being too depressed to red through the post game thread after that game.[/quote]I don't know if it's the same guy.  There's a picture of  Shirtless Painted Chest Hockey Helmet Harvard guy online somewhere but I can't find it.

This is St. Lawrence Jersey Tucked Into Jeans Guy, seen in Denver this weekend:
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Oh, these appear to be different characters.  The guys who came to Lynah this year painted H and U on their chests in Orange and Black.  One of them also wore a horned viking helmet.  It was perplexing, to say the least...

[quote Josh '99][quote RichH]ECAC representation I spotted: A fair number of various Clarkson jerseys, RPI, SLU, Princeton.  I saw a Union and a Colgate hat, and there was a guy in a Yale sweatshirt at the Saturday skate at the Pepsi Center.[/quote]I took a picture of St. Lawrence Jersey Tucked Into Jeans Guy.  Not as funny as Shirtless Painted Chest Hockey Helmet Harvard Guy but still pretty good.[/quote]

are you referring to the ones that came to Lynah this year?  The most amusing (and confusing) aspect of those guys was that they painted their chests with Princeton colors.  At least, that was how it looked from section A.  Though perhaps this has already been commented on, I recall being too depressed to red through the post game thread after that game.

well, those of us in section A did respond with an "anger management" chant, but I agree that "toot needs a hug" is far funnier (in retrospect I think "deep breaths" might have been a good choice.)"  I actually had a conversation with a housemate after last night's game about possible Gaudet taunts for tonight.  I think the faithful need to get to the root of his anger problem by engaging in some public psychoanalysis.  Perhaps Mr. Gaudet was not hugged enough as a child?  I think these issues should be explored tonight at Lynah Skating Rink.

[quote redice]During the Friday night Dartmouth game, did I hear the "you suck Johnson" cheer correctly?   If so, congratulations & how did that escape the watchful eyes/ears of the Lynah ushers?   (I know, I know, ears can't be watchful ;-) )[/quote]

you heard correctly.  The ushers will occasionally warn an individual if he or she is 'specifically targeting and being derogatory towards one player" (which is a ridiculous policy, so long as there is no cursing involved), but you can't warn a whole section.

And as for any sexual innuendo involving mr Johnson's last name, well I can assure you that this was not what the pure and noble minds of the section A fans intended =).

the weather has certainly been worse on other weekends this winter than last night, the attendance confused me too.

Last night was one of the lightest attendances of the season, confused the hell out of me.


And regardless of how justified he may have been (and I agree that the Nash slash then hook on the breakaway was one of the worst non-calls that i've ever seen),gaudet has to show more restraint.  You can't abuse a ref for 2 minutes straight in front of 4000 people (listed, I'd put the actuall attendance in the 3500 range) and expect to not get a bench minor.  Many refs would have given it too him sooner.  He was out of line.

However, his temper tantrum was completely hilarious to watch and I very much hope he throws another one tonight =).

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I seem to recall the ticket office requiring ejected students to return their tickets (so that the ticket office could resell them, despite refusing to refund the origional owner's money) on threat of judicial action.

[quote redhair34][quote evilnaturedrobot][quote redhair34][quote evilnaturedrobot] Pulling an entire season's worth of tickets for swearing at a college sporting event?[/quote]

I know this is the stated penalty, but do people have knowledge of them actually adhering to it?  Or is it just a bunch of hot air?[/quote]

When the swearing crackdown first took effect (05-06?)  there were more than a few threads started by angry ticketholders that had their tickets revoked (I believe they were also JA'd..)[/quote]

Yeah let me clarify--have they been adhering to it this season for instance?[/quote]

I had a friend who got thrown out during the first exhibition game (why he was swearing during an exhibition game is beyond me.)  They (I don't recall if it was gene or one of his underlings) took him in and threatened to revoke his tickets but then relented after he apologized, and on account of it being the first game of the year.  They then made it very clear that this was not a courtesy that would be extended to subsequent offenders.

Whether or not this was hot air I cannot say, as I do not know anyone else that has been kicked out this season.  It is possible that they have eased up on the policy (the less stringent fish enforcement might point to this.)  At the same time, it's quite possible that they are still revoking tickets for first time offenders.  We'll have to find someone who has been ejected during the regular season in order to find out.

What I can say is that my friend has been especially careful since his encounter, a stern warning certainly worked in his case.

[quote redhair34][quote evilnaturedrobot] Pulling an entire season's worth of tickets for swearing at a college sporting event?[/quote]

I know this is the stated penalty, but do people have knowledge of them actually adhering to it?  Or is it just a bunch of hot air?[/quote]

When the swearing crackdown first took effect (05-06?)  there were more than a few threads started by angry ticketholders that had their tickets revoked (I believe they were also JA'd..)

[quote KeithK][quote evilnaturedrobot][quote Doug '08]I think the bottom line is that Athletics takes hockey fans for granted, and just assume that they will always sell out the rink, pay inflated prices for tickets, and put up with anything because they are holding all the cards.  
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I agree. And, as I said above, what I find so ridiculous is that Athletics treats its best customers far worse than anyone else.  What other business would offer preferential treatment to people playing $3 while harassing those paying $13?  It just doesn't make any sense.[/quote]
The fact is that they can ell out the rink even "treating their best customers worse".  It's been this way for years.  Basketball and football have had attendance problems so policing them this closely would probably impact the revenue stream.

Let's be honest though.  The student section at hockey games have more or less "earned" the heightened scrutiny based on their behavior over the years.  Swearing en masse is bound to attract negative attention eventually.
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I happen to agree with the swearing policy and, with the exception of 2 or 3 times when I've added 'asshole' when I thought the goon really deserved it, I don't swear.  My problem with the policy is the enforcement.  Pulling an entire season's worth of tickets for swearing at a college sporting event?  If you're caught swearing you should be tossed for that game and warned that if you're caught again that your tickets will be revoked. Revoking $250 dollars worth of tickets just for swearing once is draconian and uncalled for.

The only first time offenders that should have their season tickets pulled are the idiots who throw things on the ice at inappropriate times.


Edit:  Because not enough threads on elynah go off topic, I decided to respond too, and subsequently rant about, the other section of KeithK's post:

[quote KeithK]  
The fact is that they can ell out the rink even "treating their best customers worse".  It's been this way for years.  Basketball and football have had attendance problems so policing them this closely would probably impact the revenue stream.
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This is true.  THe athletics office makes these sort of decisions based on what they can do, not what they should do, and it really speaks to a larger Cornell policy of just generally trying to nickel and dime it's student body at every opportunity.  I find this especially irksome after transferring in from an institution (in fact a larger and much poorer one) that didn't feel the need to charge it's students for things like bandwidth usage, gym access, or ice skating.  

There is a reason why so many alumni look back upon the university (the administration, not their experience while on the hill) with mixed feelings.  I would hope that the administration would consider this when they make their annual complaint that they don't benefit from alumni contributions in the same way that their peer institutions do.

[quote Doug '08]I think the bottom line is that Athletics takes hockey fans for granted, and just assume that they will always sell out the rink, pay inflated prices for tickets, and put up with anything because they are holding all the cards.  
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I agree. And, as I said above, what I find so ridiculous is that Athletics treats its best customers far worse than anyone else.  What other business would offer preferential treatment to people playing $3 while harassing those paying $13?  It just doesn't make any sense.

[quote Trotsky]As a reminder, it's not the ushers' fault.  They don't set policy and if they  don't follow policy, they lose their jobs.  Be polite and respectful to them and I'm sure they will treat you the same way. [/quote]

Oh, I agree, and I happen to know the two ushers at the A/B entrance fairly well and have never had a problem with them (neither of them has even asked to see my ticket in about 6 months.)  

The times when I have had problems it's been with ushers or athletics officials from outside section A that have come over to harass either me or my friends.  I did not recognize the bearded individual who was staring at me on Saturday.  Last year a fellow from athletics came over and tried to throw me out for swearing during Gary Glitter (which I have never done.)  What saved me in that instance was one of the ushers that I know actually coming down and assuring this man from athletics that I do not swear.  

So it's clearly not a case of the evil ushers trying to suppress student expression, but rather of an overbearing policy.  And I'm sure that the ushers themselves treat students differently depending on whether or not they know them.  That's just human nature.

[quote Will]As I see it, the reasoning behind why hockey tickets prices are so exorbitant goes beyond "because they can" into "because they need to".  Money taken in from hockey has to pay not just for hockey but for the 35 other varsity sports offered by the university.  Most of those sports aren't bringing in any money at all by way of ticket prices.  Lacrosse, football, and basketball bring in some money, but probably not a lot relative to hockey, this year's basketball success not withstanding.  (Of course, if that success becomes a regular thing, I'm sure the seats will be filled more often, accompanied by a spike in ticket prices.)  But hockey needs to support a lot more than just hockey.  I don't particularly like this idea, but I understand it.[/quote]

It's not the prices that bother me that much (we're still talking about a fraction of NHL prices), but rather the fact that we're so often treated like criminals waiting to be caught.  I was sitting in section A at 6:10 yesterday and got treated to 40 minutes of being stared at by some bearded usher in the bottom of the section.  I mean one of the Lynah cops actually wears a bullet proof vest...how many hockey fans are walking into the rink packing heat?


If the Lynah faithful are indeed supporting the rest of the athletic department financially, then they should be getting more favorable treatment, not less.  Few businesses treat their biggest customers with the least respect.

well, Harvard stacked 4 men on their blueline and took advantage of two mistakes.  Certainly a taste of our own medicine.