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Quote from: BearLover on April 11, 2026, 01:48:30 PM

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Quote from: Ken711 on April 11, 2026, 11:36:34 AMhttps://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/04/4lir9ni9agdt

Am I missing something, or was the featured lecturer a former Cornell student who didn't even graduate from Cornell? They couldn't find an actual Cornell graduate? Kevin Boothe?

they can have more than one person come to campus. some of the people who come to speak - even to teach - have no connection to cornell at all!

Yeah but it seemed like they had him come to campus because he was a Cornell football player who went to the NFL, to talk about his experiences. But he dipped midway through so it's kind of a weird message.

obviously they did... and no it isn't! there didn't have to be any ill-will in the departure. things happen. he obviously still has good memories of the place and he didn't burn any bridges.

Quote from: BearLover on April 11, 2026, 11:44:46 AM

Quote from: Ken711 on April 11, 2026, 11:36:34 AMhttps://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/04/4lir9ni9agdt

Am I missing something, or was the featured lecturer a former Cornell student who didn't even graduate from Cornell? They couldn't find an actual Cornell graduate? Kevin Boothe?

they can have more than one person come to campus. some of the people who come to speak - even to teach - have no connection to cornell at all!

3x All-American Meyer Shapiro is in the portal. Finished 3rd, 5th and 8th in his three years at Cornell. Rumors of tension between him and the coaching staff.

Weird to say but a very disappointing Big Red career for the U17 and U20 world gold medalist Multiple concussions and losses in the tournament for a guy who was talked about as someone who could be Cornell's third 4x NCAA champ.

Quote from: Old Red on April 09, 2026, 06:08:28 AMWhen did Jane go pro?  I love CHN...

hasn't she freelanced for CHN before?

EDIT: I checked and ... yes, a lot.

if you think it's bad for us imagine how they're reacting to the age limit in hamden

Surprised DeSantis isn't in the portal unless he's ready to move on too.

it's apples and oranges. there are no "maximum salaries" imposed on any other labor.

Quote from: BearLover on April 05, 2026, 03:09:27 PM

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Quote from: upprdeck on April 05, 2026, 09:35:19 AMthe only way college sports work is if there is some idea of balance in the chance to compete.

what is this based on? vibes? there is no equal chance to compete and there never has been. "everyone gets paid what they can bargain but the players" is exploitation.

There are many examples in modern society where we do not let people freely bargain for whatever they want due to the steep externalities involved. I (and most on the left) wish we were stricter in policing the "free market."

In this case, the "exploitation" you describe is attending college for free (which can be worth as much as $400K), incredible resources to pursue the sport you love, and the publicity to get drafted/hired to a professional career, where many of these same players will go on to make millions regardless.

The beneficiaries under the current system are .1% of NCAA athletes, basically just extremely high-end men's basketball and football players. Everyone else - athletes in other sports, athletes in men's basketball and football not on Power 4 teams, fans of any team outside the Power 4 - suffers.

that's because we don't, as a society, actually value those things other than romantically. universal healthcare, this is not. there's no reason football players should be subsidizing fencers.

I dunno, I feel like you could say that about, like, national parks or other things we preserve. We value those things romantically, not due to any innate desire for survival or safety. Yet we (rightly) don't allow unchecked capitalism/development in those spaces. I guess I don't really see the distinction you're drawing why traditional/fairer college athletics shouldn't be protected.

i started to respond to this, and perhaps this falls into one or another category of logical fallacy but i am instead going to respond "that comparison is too stupid to bother responding to."

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Quote from: upprdeck on April 05, 2026, 09:35:19 AMthe only way college sports work is if there is some idea of balance in the chance to compete.

what is this based on? vibes? there is no equal chance to compete and there never has been. "everyone gets paid what they can bargain but the players" is exploitation.

There are many examples in modern society where we do not let people freely bargain for whatever they want due to the steep externalities involved. I (and most on the left) wish we were stricter in policing the "free market."

In this case, the "exploitation" you describe is attending college for free (which can be worth as much as $400K), incredible resources to pursue the sport you love, and the publicity to get drafted/hired to a professional career, where many of these same players will go on to make millions regardless.

The beneficiaries under the current system are .1% of NCAA athletes, basically just extremely high-end men's basketball and football players. Everyone else - athletes in other sports, athletes in men's basketball and football not on Power 4 teams, fans of any team outside the Power 4 - suffers.

that's because we don't, as a society, actually value those things other than romantically. universal healthcare, this is not. there's no reason football players should be subsidizing fencers.

Quote from: upprdeck on April 05, 2026, 09:35:19 AMthe only way college sports work is if there is some idea of balance in the chance to compete.

what is this based on? vibes? there is no equal chance to compete and there never has been. "everyone gets paid what they can bargain but the players" is exploitation.

Quote from: George64 on April 04, 2026, 02:59:15 PM... including possible caps or "fair market value" standards and regulation of third-party collectives paying athletes ...

nothing says "fair market value" like centralized wage determination

they probably went to yell at him for abandoning them

Quote from: stereax on April 03, 2026, 08:19:58 PM"NCAA is not a pathway for goalies"

Hellebuyck, Connor
Oettinger, Jake
Swayman, Jeremy

Miller, Quick

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Quote from: adamw on April 03, 2026, 11:33:32 AMThis might help

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/team-nhl/Cornell/18

did d'alessio get injured? wild that he got a cup of coffee in '92-93 then played a single AHL game the next season and then fell off the planet.

Not sure where you got single AHL game - the same season as his cup of coffee with the Whalers (literally less than a game), he played 23 games in the AHL (Springfield), then the following season played one game in the IHL. I think the 4.13 GAA and .853 save % for Springfield might have had something to do with why his career ended.

yes, that's what i meant. a cup of coffee amid the 92-93 season *then* only one game the following year. i can understand why he might have bounced around after the bad year in springfield but to have one (pretty good!) game in LV and then never again is a pattern that suggests an injury. i (we!) overlapped with him at cornell and he was a very highly regarded prospect (on campus) even though he shared time with Crozier who was far less heralded.

Got it - your notion of one game specifically in the AHL, rather than IHL, was what confused me. Anyway, I found this from the amusingly named "Hartford Whalers Legends" blog:

https://whalerslegends.blogspot.com/2011/03/corrie-dalessio.html

No injury is mentioned, just minor league struggles leading to his exit for greener pastures. Could be just speculation, of course. But remember IHL teams weren't affiliated with NHL teams and the entire league was already struggling in 1994, so it's not shocking that Corrie might have thought continuing with Las Vegas wasn't his best option, if it was even an option open to him.

Corrie D'Alessio meeting with the Whalers GM.

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Quote from: adamw on April 03, 2026, 11:33:32 AMThis might help

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/team-nhl/Cornell/18

did d'alessio get injured? wild that he got a cup of coffee in '92-93 then played a single AHL game the next season and then fell off the planet.

Not sure where you got single AHL game - the same season as his cup of coffee with the Whalers (literally less than a game), he played 23 games in the AHL (Springfield), then the following season played one game in the IHL. I think the 4.13 GAA and .853 save % for Springfield might have had something to do with why his career ended.

yes, that's what i meant. a cup of coffee amid the 92-93 season *then* only one game the following year. i can understand why he might have bounced around after the bad year in springfield but to have one (pretty good!) game in LV and then never again is a pattern that suggests an injury. i (we!) overlapped with him at cornell and he was a very highly regarded prospect (on campus) even though he shared time with Crozier who was far less heralded.