NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament

Selection show underway on ESPNU. UVA is the overall No. 1.

(1) Virginia v. Villanova
(8) Johns Hopkins v. Brown
(winners meet in Annapolis)

(5) Cornell v. Hofstra - Saturday, 5 p.m. ET
(4) Princeton v. UMass
(winners meet in Hempstead)

(3) Duke v. Navy
(6) North Carolina v. UMBC
(winners meet in Annapolis)

(7) Notre Dame v. Maryland
(2) Syracuse v. Siena
(winners meet in Hempstead)

Virginia #1 vs. Villanova

Hopkins #8 vs. Brown!

Al DeFlorio
Hopkins #8 vs. Brown!

Go Bruno!

Jeff Hopkins '82

Al DeFlorio
Hopkins #8 vs. Brown!

Go Bruno!

Rooting against your great-great-grandfather's school?

Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.

Hillel Hoffmann
Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.

Right. But there are only a couple of easy ones.

If the UMass O plays as it did against Syracuse, Princeton's D should have no problem containing it. I'd rather have seen Brown go to South Bend.

Al DeFlorio

Jeff Hopkins '82

Al DeFlorio
Hopkins #8 vs. Brown!

Go Bruno!

Rooting against your great-great-grandfather's school?

My shrink would probably have a field day with it, but I have no difficulty saying "Hopkins sucks!" and have done so with pride for 30 years now.

And now my conspiracy freak side comes out: how do you make sure that the favorite sons all get though? Pit the two Ivy champions against each other.

I'm glad we are in the Hempstead bracket and aren't facing Virginia in the Semis if we make it that far. Hopefully our defense can heal up a bit before next week's game and we can make it to Hempstead.

I'll bet if we'd beaten Brown we'd have been seeded ahead of Princeton and drawn UMass instead of Hofstra.

If both Cornell and Virginia reach the semifinals, the Big Red would face the Cavaliers again. If the top four seeds reach Foxboro, it will be 1 v. 4 and 2 v. 3.

The bracket from LaxPower.

Hillel Hoffmann
@Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.

FYP. Jeez. What is this, hockey?

Still, a 5 seed isn't bad after the loss to Brown. Since I still don't know the seeding alchemy of lax, did JHU get 'screwed' with a reasonable-in-light-of-their-record 8 seed in light of their really high RPI?

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Hillel Hoffmann
@Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.

FYP. Jeez. What is this, hockey?

Still, a 5 seed isn't bad after the loss to Brown. Since I still don't know the seeding alchemy of lax, did JHU get 'screwed' with a reasonable-in-light-of-their-record 8 seed in light of their really high RPI?

Seeds 5 through 8 are driven to a large degree by the teams seeded 1-4. With Virginia at 1 and Duke at 3, the committee was going to put UNC and Hopkins at 6 and 8 so they'd all go to Annapolis (assuming all four were to win). Then it's a matter of which gets 6 and which 8. Same with Cornell and Notre Dame. With Syracuse at 2 and Princeton at 4, one of them had to be 5 and the other 7. I'm guessing Cornell's two top five wins (Princeton and Duke) earned them the 5 slot over Notre Dame.

If Syracuse were 3 and Duke 2, I'll bet Notre Dame would have been 6 and UNC 7. Or, if Princeton were 3 and Duke 4, UNC would have been 5 (to match up with Duke) and Cornell 6 (to match up with Princeton). Once you get past the 4th seed they fudge to get the regionals to make geographic sense.

Al DeFlorio
I'll bet if we'd beaten Brown we'd have been seeded ahead of Princeton and drawn UMass instead of Hofstra.

Beating Syracuse or UVa would have been a lot more effective.

On the positive side, our loss to Brown got a 3rd Ivy into the tournament.

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Hillel Hoffmann
@Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.

FYP. Jeez. What is this, hockey?

I'm pretty sure the first round games are at campus sites, so we get to play Hofstra at Schoellkopf. If we lose, either Princeton or UMass has to play them on their home field.

Per a poster on laxpower (CU77), Hofstra was #6 in KRACH rating and Cornell #7 through Monday April 27.
[network.laxpower.com]

jtwcornell91

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Hillel Hoffmann
@Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.

FYP. Jeez. What is this, hockey?

I'm pretty sure the first round games are at campus sites, so we get to play Hofstra at Schoellkopf. If we lose, either Princeton or UMass has to play them on their home field.

Correct.

RichH

jtwcornell91

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Hillel Hoffmann
@Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.

FYP. Jeez. What is this, hockey?

I'm pretty sure the first round games are at campus sites, so we get to play Hofstra at Schoellkopf. If we lose, either Princeton or UMass has to play them on their home field.

Correct.

My bad. I projected "second round games in Hempstead" to thinking that Hempstead was a 4 team, 2 round pod.

Speaking of that, I finally got around to running that, just in time for the RS to end. With the two fictitious games associated with the proper Bayesian prior:

  # Team                BT    RRWP  W- L   W/L   SOS
  1 Notre Dame          2180  .919 15- 0 16.00 136.3
  2 Virginia            1349  .881 13- 2 4.667 289.0
  3 Syracuse            1156  .866 12- 2 4.333 266.8
  4 Princeton           1095  .861 12- 2 4.333 252.6
  5 Duke                955.6 .846 13- 3 3.500 273.0
  6 Cornell             690.9 .809 10- 3 2.750 251.2
  7 Johns Hopkins       675.2 .806  9- 4 2.000 337.6
  8 Hofstra             632.6 .798 11- 3 3.000 210.9
  9 North Carolina      571.8 .785 11- 5 2.000 285.9
 10 Brown               486.7 .763 12- 3 3.250 149.7

And with the Jeffreys prior that takes perfection literally:

  # Team                BT    RRWP  W- L   W/L   SOS
  1 Notre Dame          infin 1.00 15- 0 infin  N/A
  2 Virginia            10129 .931 13- 2 6.500  1558
  3 Syracuse            7647  .918 12- 2 6.000  1275
  4 Princeton           6499  .910 12- 2 6.000  1083
  5 Duke                5380  .899 13- 3 4.333  1241
  6 Cornell             4217  .885 10- 3 3.333  1265
  7 Johns Hopkins       3175  .866  9- 4 2.250  1411
  8 North Carolina      2743  .856 11- 5 2.200  1247
  9 Hofstra             2189  .840 11- 3 3.667 596.9
 10 Brown               1537  .811 12- 3 4.000 384.2

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RichH

jtwcornell91

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Hillel Hoffmann
@Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.

FYP. Jeez. What is this, hockey?

I'm pretty sure the first round games are at campus sites, so we get to play Hofstra at Schoellkopf. If we lose, either Princeton or UMass has to play them on their home field.

Correct.

My bad. I projected "second round games in Hempstead" to thinking that Hempstead was a 4 team, 2 round pod.

It's a 4 team, 1 round pod. Two games, two teams emerge from each regional to advance to the Final Four weekend.

Any word yet on whether any of this will be televised, particularly the first two rounds?

espnu said all the games are on tv. I would think thats why so many late games on the schedule. all on ESPNU HD.. except game one ESPN2 HD

All on ESPNU. Brown-Hopkins listed as ESPN2/ESPNU. Most importantly, all on HD. Here's the ESPNU link.

Well Brown has taken Hopkins to sudden victory OT on ESPN2 right now.

EDIT: And Hopkins wins it early in OT. Nice effort by Brown to keep climbing back in to the game, but they never managed to get a lead.

Jacob '06
Well Brown has taken Hopkins to sudden victory OT on ESPN2 right now.

1:30 into OT, Hopkins eliminates Brown.

(6) North Carolina 15, UMBC 13 - Final

Hopkins seems to do what we couldn't - get the ball deep inside for slam-dunk goals.

Princeton up 6-1 at the half. Looks like an Ivy rematch unless UMass makes a big charge.

Princeton 10, UMass 7 - final.

PU wins 10-7... Cornell/Princeton next week

Maryland hands Notre Dame their only loss of the season, 7-3 to advance to the Hofstra nightcap against the Syracuse-Siena winner, just underway.

Tom Pasniewski 98
Maryland hands Notre Dame their only loss of the season, 7-3 to advance to the Hofstra nightcap against the Syracuse-Siena winner, just underway.

Currently 4-0, Orange.