NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by kingpin248
NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: kingpin248 (---.cpe.metrocast.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 09:01PM
Selection show underway on ESPNU. UVA is the overall No. 1.
(1) Virginia v. Villanova
(8) Johns Hopkins v. Brown
(winners meet in Annapolis)
(5) Cornell v. Hofstra - Saturday, 5 p.m. ET
(4) Princeton v. UMass
(winners meet in Hempstead)
(3) Duke v. Navy
(6) North Carolina v. UMBC
(winners meet in Annapolis)
(7) Notre Dame v. Maryland
(2) Syracuse v. Siena
(winners meet in Hempstead)
(1) Virginia v. Villanova
(8) Johns Hopkins v. Brown
(winners meet in Annapolis)
(5) Cornell v. Hofstra - Saturday, 5 p.m. ET
(4) Princeton v. UMass
(winners meet in Hempstead)
(3) Duke v. Navy
(6) North Carolina v. UMBC
(winners meet in Annapolis)
(7) Notre Dame v. Maryland
(2) Syracuse v. Siena
(winners meet in Hempstead)
Edited 10 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/2009 09:19PM by kingpin248.
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 09:04PM
Virginia #1 vs. Villanova
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Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 09:07PM
Hopkins #8 vs. Brown!
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Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.143.14.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 09:20PM
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Hopkins #8 vs. Brown!
Go Bruno!
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 09:25PM
Rooting against your great-great-grandfather's school?Jeff Hopkins '82Al DeFlorio
Hopkins #8 vs. Brown!
Go Bruno!
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Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 09:30PM
Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 09:35PM
Right. But there are only a couple of easy ones.Hillel Hoffmann
Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.
If the UMass O plays as it did against Syracuse, Princeton's D should have no problem containing it. I'd rather have seen Brown go to South Bend.
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Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.143.14.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 09:36PM
Al DeFlorioRooting against your great-great-grandfather's school?Jeff Hopkins '82Al DeFlorio
Hopkins #8 vs. Brown!
Go Bruno!
My shrink would probably have a field day with it, but I have no difficulty saying "Hopkins sucks!" and have done so with pride for 30 years now.
And now my conspiracy freak side comes out: how do you make sure that the favorite sons all get though? Pit the two Ivy champions against each other.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/2009 09:39PM by Jeff Hopkins '82.
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 09:47PM
I'm glad we are in the Hempstead bracket and aren't facing Virginia in the Semis if we make it that far. Hopefully our defense can heal up a bit before next week's game and we can make it to Hempstead.
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 09:50PM
I'll bet if we'd beaten Brown we'd have been seeded ahead of Princeton and drawn UMass instead of Hofstra.
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Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: kingpin248 (---.cpe.metrocast.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 10:00PM
If both Cornell and Virginia reach the semifinals, the Big Red would face the Cavaliers again. If the top four seeds reach Foxboro, it will be 1 v. 4 and 2 v. 3.
The bracket from LaxPower.
The bracket from LaxPower.
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 10:05PM
FYP. Jeez. What is this, hockey?Hillel Hoffmann
@Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.
Still, a 5 seed isn't bad after the loss to Brown. Since I still don't know the seeding alchemy of lax, did JHU get 'screwed' with a reasonable-in-light-of-their-record 8 seed in light of their really high RPI?
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Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 10:13PM
Seeds 5 through 8 are driven to a large degree by the teams seeded 1-4. With Virginia at 1 and Duke at 3, the committee was going to put UNC and Hopkins at 6 and 8 so they'd all go to Annapolis (assuming all four were to win). Then it's a matter of which gets 6 and which 8. Same with Cornell and Notre Dame. With Syracuse at 2 and Princeton at 4, one of them had to be 5 and the other 7. I'm guessing Cornell's two top five wins (Princeton and Duke) earned them the 5 slot over Notre Dame.ugarteFYP. Jeez. What is this, hockey?Hillel Hoffmann
@Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.
Still, a 5 seed isn't bad after the loss to Brown. Since I still don't know the seeding alchemy of lax, did JHU get 'screwed' with a reasonable-in-light-of-their-record 8 seed in light of their really high RPI?
If Syracuse were 3 and Duke 2, I'll bet Notre Dame would have been 6 and UNC 7. Or, if Princeton were 3 and Duke 4, UNC would have been 5 (to match up with Duke) and Cornell 6 (to match up with Princeton). Once you get past the 4th seed they fudge to get the regionals to make geographic sense.
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Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: May 03, 2009 10:33PM
Al DeFlorio
I'll bet if we'd beaten Brown we'd have been seeded ahead of Princeton and drawn UMass instead of Hofstra.
Beating Syracuse or UVa would have been a lot more effective.
On the positive side, our loss to Brown got a 3rd Ivy into the tournament.
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: May 03, 2009 10:36PM
ugarteFYP. Jeez. What is this, hockey?Hillel Hoffmann
@Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.
I'm pretty sure the first round games are at campus sites, so we get to play Hofstra at Schoellkopf. If we lose, either Princeton or UMass has to play them on their home field.
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: jkahn (---.pools.spcsdns.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 10:50PM
Per a poster on laxpower (CU77), Hofstra was #6 in KRACH rating and Cornell #7 through Monday April 27.
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Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 10:52PM
jtwcornell91ugarteFYP. Jeez. What is this, hockey?Hillel Hoffmann
@Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.
I'm pretty sure the first round games are at campus sites, so we get to play Hofstra at Schoellkopf. If we lose, either Princeton or UMass has to play them on their home field.
Correct.
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 10:57PM
My bad. I projected "second round games in Hempstead" to thinking that Hempstead was a 4 team, 2 round pod.RichHjtwcornell91ugarteFYP. Jeez. What is this, hockey?Hillel Hoffmann
@Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.
I'm pretty sure the first round games are at campus sites, so we get to play Hofstra at Schoellkopf. If we lose, either Princeton or UMass has to play them on their home field.
Correct.
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Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: May 03, 2009 11:00PM
Speaking of that, I finally got around to running that, just in time for the RS to end. With the two fictitious games associated with the proper Bayesian prior:
# Team BT RRWP W- L W/L SOS 1 Notre Dame 2180 .919 15- 0 16.00 136.3 2 Virginia 1349 .881 13- 2 4.667 289.0 3 Syracuse 1156 .866 12- 2 4.333 266.8 4 Princeton 1095 .861 12- 2 4.333 252.6 5 Duke 955.6 .846 13- 3 3.500 273.0 6 Cornell 690.9 .809 10- 3 2.750 251.2 7 Johns Hopkins 675.2 .806 9- 4 2.000 337.6 8 Hofstra 632.6 .798 11- 3 3.000 210.9 9 North Carolina 571.8 .785 11- 5 2.000 285.9 10 Brown 486.7 .763 12- 3 3.250 149.7And with the Jeffreys prior that takes perfection literally:
# Team BT RRWP W- L W/L SOS 1 Notre Dame infin 1.00 15- 0 infin N/A 2 Virginia 10129 .931 13- 2 6.500 1558 3 Syracuse 7647 .918 12- 2 6.000 1275 4 Princeton 6499 .910 12- 2 6.000 1083 5 Duke 5380 .899 13- 3 4.333 1241 6 Cornell 4217 .885 10- 3 3.333 1265 7 Johns Hopkins 3175 .866 9- 4 2.250 1411 8 North Carolina 2743 .856 11- 5 2.200 1247 9 Hofstra 2189 .840 11- 3 3.667 596.9 10 Brown 1537 .811 12- 3 4.000 384.2
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: May 03, 2009 11:31PM
ugarteMy bad. I projected "second round games in Hempstead" to thinking that Hempstead was a 4 team, 2 round pod.RichHjtwcornell91ugarteFYP. Jeez. What is this, hockey?Hillel Hoffmann
@Hofstra is a very tough first-round assignment. Eeps.
I'm pretty sure the first round games are at campus sites, so we get to play Hofstra at Schoellkopf. If we lose, either Princeton or UMass has to play them on their home field.
Correct.
It's a 4 team, 1 round pod. Two games, two teams emerge from each regional to advance to the Final Four weekend.
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: May 04, 2009 10:17AM
Any word yet on whether any of this will be televised, particularly the first two rounds?
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Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: upperdeck (---.fcsnet.cornell.edu)
Date: May 04, 2009 11:04AM
espnu said all the games are on tv. I would think thats why so many late games on the schedule. all on ESPNU HD.. except game one ESPN2 HD
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: May 04, 2009 01:22PM
All on ESPNU. Brown-Hopkins listed as ESPN2/ESPNU. Most importantly, all on HD. Here's the ESPNU link.
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Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 09, 2009 02:24PM
Well Brown has taken Hopkins to sudden victory OT on ESPN2 right now.
EDIT: And Hopkins wins it early in OT. Nice effort by Brown to keep climbing back in to the game, but they never managed to get a lead.
EDIT: And Hopkins wins it early in OT. Nice effort by Brown to keep climbing back in to the game, but they never managed to get a lead.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/09/2009 02:29PM by Jacob '06.
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: May 09, 2009 02:29PM
Jacob '06
Well Brown has taken Hopkins to sudden victory OT on ESPN2 right now.
1:30 into OT, Hopkins eliminates Brown.
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: Tom Pasniewski 98 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 09, 2009 05:17PM
(6) North Carolina 15, UMBC 13 - Final
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: May 09, 2009 05:22PM
Hopkins seems to do what we couldn't - get the ball deep inside for slam-dunk goals.
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 10, 2009 06:10PM
Princeton up 6-1 at the half. Looks like an Ivy rematch unless UMass makes a big charge.
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: kingpin248 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 10, 2009 07:03PM
Princeton 10, UMass 7 - final.
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Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 10, 2009 07:11PM
PU wins 10-7... Cornell/Princeton next week
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: Tom Pasniewski 98 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 10, 2009 07:35PM
Maryland hands Notre Dame their only loss of the season, 7-3 to advance to the Hofstra nightcap against the Syracuse-Siena winner, just underway.
Re: NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tournament
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 10, 2009 08:39PM
Currently 4-0, Orange.Tom Pasniewski 98
Maryland hands Notre Dame their only loss of the season, 7-3 to advance to the Hofstra nightcap against the Syracuse-Siena winner, just underway.
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