Cornell 1 vs. Harvard (sucks) 0 FINAL

It's roughly 6:20 and the camera is already showing the pep band playing. Maybe we'll get to watch some warmups!



Post Edited (12-06-03 21:32)

They are now showing center ice, so you get to see the players circle outside the zone on 3-on-2's and 2-on-1's.

dead air on collegesportspass yet again..lost out on all of the 2nd period last night, hopefully they can get themselves straightened out tonight..we'll see.

Sitting here with a platter of swordfish--which I think I'll eat rather than toss.

Still nothing on collegesportspass with four minutes to gametime.

The i2 sports theme, "Thus Spake Zaradorka," has come and gone, so hopefully we'll get live footage of the fish shower.

... and we did, though it was light. The toy toss was also a bust.

I'm listening via Harvard's free broadcast -

go listen for free from harvard(sucks)
[www.business1060.com]

i'm really pissed about the troubles with the pay-to-listen through cornell-oscn.
with the brown game missing the 2nd period (even on the archived version) and not getting a feed at 4 pm [pacific time].
i'll check back with the cornell feed at the end of the 1st.

let's go red!!!
rita

the cornell pay-to listen feed through ocsn is back up...

Listening to the game now...my first radio broadcast for the Red this year...it's 1:27 AM here, but for CU-Harvard, I just have to stay up.

Jordan

This announcer is just a trip (Harvard feed)....worst pun in sporst history: "Bitz kibbles it into the corner."

Maybe it was the impact of not being at the game, but did it seem like the "welcome" that Lynah gave to Harvard was a little less loud and considerably less fishy than in past years? Maybe the strip'n search at the doors was better...or they threw lots of people out during the warmups.

In any case, except for some bad reffing, the red seem to be playing fairly well...and Grumet Morris has been one lucky sieve a couple of times...especially on that one cross ice pass from Pegoraro to Hynes.



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Are we really playing this undisciplined or are we getting some dubious calls?

What's the score now? I can't get the damn PayPal thing to work, and the Harvard radio link doesn't work! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

ok, I finally got the radio link to work.....

0-0 2d intermission

Looks like the Faithful need to throw some more fish down there, to get something going. Scoreless after 2.

Actually, there's a LOT going. Cornell's generating all sorts of energy and playing up-tempo. We've had great chances, they've had great chances. McKee's made some good saves, Dov's made some great ones.

Thanks, BigRedApple.

just came from the game....Dov has been amazing--two awesome last-second, blind-grab, glove saves...lots got kicked out for tossing fish...everyone is afraid of getting kicked out--well, not everyone...listening to it on the radio now, so I can understand

Cornell scores!!!!!!!!!!


Colgate 5, Brown 1 and St. Lawrence 3, UNH 1

RPI has now gone up 4-0 over Princeton, in the 2nd.

We score!

GOAL!
Hynes scores! 1-0 Red

Adam, good for you!!! I got thrown out back in '80. Ahh, the good old days.

safety school chant comes out

they should start jingling the keys...now chanting over rated

7:58 left in 3rd period.
1-0 Cornell on Hynes PP goal.

Fingernail biting time now...

oh my lord...I don't have any fingernails left to bite

Empty net now...

38 secs to go...

It's over!!!!!!!

We win!!!

What better time for our first home win?

Adam, I sure do miss going to Lynah.....

Cornell hangs onto for the 1-0 victory.
rita

Wow, was THAT a well-earned win!

Adam: "ya know, I think there's gonna be a party in Ithaca tonight."

Um, yeah!



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Other scores:

Yale 4 Union 1
Colgate 6 Brown 1
RPI 6 Princton 4

UML 4 Clarkson 2
SLU 4 UNH 2
Northeastern 1 Vermont 0



Post Edited (12-06-03 22:20)

Clearly Harvard sorely misses the services of Aaron Kim.

What a game. Great win.

This could have been a blowout. The puck was in the Harvard zone all night and Hyphen stood on his head just to keep it close.

3 Stars (according to the radio):
3. Gleed
2. Moulson
1. McKee

Adam, the last shutout of Harvard was game 7 in 1968, 9-0: 12/18/67, at Harvard, a span of 89 games vs. Harvard.

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Post Edited (12-06-03 21:53)

Kolarik had seven of Harvard's 21 shots-on-goal.

Everyone seemed to be really scared to get thrown out. A bunch saved their fish til the end, and the idiots with the bottles joined in too. I think I also may have seen some ladies' undergarments thrown, but I'm definitely not positive. I didn't even get frisked, after working really hard to flatten out the octopii in my shoes. Once again it was empty threats, and there was no penalty. Hopefully the fish throwing will make a comeback next year. I'm hoping to catch my own to throw next season.

Its Saturday Night AND....

coach was guarding the hahvahd players from fish throwing after the game

what a great game. tons of scoring opportunities that didnt amount to shots - the shots do not tell the story

great job by our keeper 2nite for sure

Impressive. He still has bad hair

A victory over Hahvahd (sucks) at Lynah and UNH losing to an ECAC team on the same night. Life just got a little bit better.

Steve Marciniec '85 wrote:

A victory over Hahvahd (sucks) at Lynah and UNH losing to an ECAC team on the same night. Life just got a little bit better.

To an 11th place ECAC team at that.

And a 9 goal weekend against Danis. Say goodbye to a GAA below 1....

Mike Hedrick '01 wrote:

Impressive. He still has bad hair

And an inflated GPA!

Brown out-shot 80-39 this weekend.

My thoughts on the game (I should start a show ):
- Even with the relatively low shots on goal totals, both goalies were at their best tonight. Lucky for us that Hyphen decided to let one get by him.
- The facetimers (the actual ones, not those called as such by "Facetimer" were out in full force tonight. While I have no problem repeating "Hahvahd sucks" on a message board like this, hearing that cheer over and over and over again at the game was somewhat annoying.
- I'm proud of myself for doing "Hey Grumet-Morris! Last year's ECAC championship game called! It said YOU SUCK!" Even if most people really didn't understand what I said, I still think it was clever.
- I say keep starting the Hornby-Abbott-Abbott line, they keep the pressure on well. I almost wish we could fit Hynes into that line, though, because he was everywhere.
- Gleed and Cook, both A+...and without grade inflation.
- Kotyra's officiating could've used some work, but I'll say that for most refs.
- I swear, after people started taking out their keys in the final minute of play, I thought, "We're about to get spanked." Thank Zod the true Faithful were able to start chanting "No keys, no keys, no keys..." to get through to the facetimers.
- There were a lot of toys at tonight's game. A bunch were thrown onto the ice (mostly Nemo, as suggested by Athletics, and other assorted fish), but there was also a bin at at least one of the entrances for additional, possibly easily-breakable toys as well. Good job by all who helped out there.

That game was intensely satisfying.

I agree about starting the Hornby-Abbotts line; in addition to the energy they usually have, they play smart too. And they cycle the puck well (especially Chris and Cam, both of whom seem to just know where the other will be), which leads to several scoring opportunities.

McKee was good tonight, obviously, but so was G-M, who made the most spectacular saves of the night (a couple windmills and a stop on Cam Abbott coming in 1 on 0 shorthanded). He didn't have much of a chance on the PPG. It was nice that Hynes' hard work paid off with a goal. He was all over the place this entire weekend, as were Knoepfli, Gleed, and Cam Abbott. I also thought Pegoraro played much better tonight than he did in the first few games of the season.

I hope Lynah will be as electric after winter break as it was tonight



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I thought the same thing - not only were there very few fish thrown, but the real fish/Swedish fish etc. ratio was lower than I've every seen it. As far as the cops with eager hands, neither I nor my bag were searched. Went through a whole fuss hiding the octopus for nothing.

Think this weekend is enough to put us back into the top 15?

Given that BU lost their only game this weekend, while Notre Dame was swept by WMU, we should be making another apperance in the top 15. All I care about was that we played good solid hockey this week. Great weekend.

Works for me

...I must say, I had fun informing a fellow cast member (who went to Sucks) that we beat them tonight...

   Team        (First Place)    Record  Pts   Last Week
 1 North Dakota         (36)     9-2-0  595     1
 2 Boston College        (4)     9-2-3  559     2
 3 Maine                        10-2-1  516     3
 4 Colorado College              8-1-3  466     5
 5 New Hampshire                 9-3-1  443     4
 6 Ohio State                   11-5-0  328     9
 7 St. Cloud State               9-3-2  324     8
 8 Denver                        9-4-1  284    10
 9 Massachusetts                 9-3-2  241     7
10 Michigan                      9-5-0  237     6
11 Wisconsin                     8-3-3  173    NR
12 Brown                         6-1-1  167    15
13 Dartmouth                     4-1-4  121    11
14 Notre Dame                    8-3-2   95    NR
15 Boston University             4-4-4   55    12

Others Receiving Votes: Minnesota-Duluth 50, 
Harvard 48, Cornell 46, Rensselaer 29, 
Minnesota 17, Mercyhurst 2, Providence 2, 
Clarkson 1, Quinnipiac 1

Brown: tied and lost.
Dartmouth: idle.
Notre Dame: lost and lost.
BU: lost and playing Sunday.
UMD: lost and won.
Harvard: won and lost.
Cornell: tied and won.
RPI: lost and won.
Minnesota: won and trailing 2-1 at UAA tonight.



Post Edited (12-07-03 00:09)

One of the guys who got revenge on Volonnino wrote:

- I say keep starting the Hornby-Abbott-Abbott line, they keep the pressure on well.

In light of the inspiration of starting that line, we should start calling it the AHA line. Always good to have an acronym line.

what was up with the sign i saw in section A, which said something along the lines of "Hey Harvard, remember McRae?"

i don't get it... perhaps a Paolini sign may have been more appropriate.

McRae scored the GTG in Albany, which was at least as big, if not bigger, than the Paolini goal. The Paolini goal was prettier, the McRae goal was incredibly clutch.

....and on the back of the "Remember McRae?" sign, it said, "Remember Sammy?"

ah. good point. that seemed to have slipped my mind (as well as those of the couple people i had traveled with throughout the postseason).

for some reason, we assumed it was in reference to mcrae's absolutely ridiculous shot in D-OT vs. BC (hence we couldn't figure out the parallel to harvard)... i suppose a goal as amazing as that tends to overshadow the novelty/importance of the GTG in albany...

i guess i have had a tendency to get offensive (defensive? uppity? i dunno what the word is)... now that my beloved old-B-sectioners are gone and we have a new breed, where not only does no one understand anything about our history or opponents (apparently the "stickless" chant was more exciting/meaningful that the "sieve-hyphen-sieve", but 1/2 the people don't even know the rules of the game ("why did the ref blow his whistle?" "for the same reason he did the last 35 times there's been an offsides"...

in any case, i stand corrected



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In case anyone didn't see this in Friday's Crimson:

[www.thecrimson.com]

Al DeFlorio wrote:

In case anyone didn't see this in Friday's Crimson:

[www.thecrimson.com]

Great find, Al. The best line of the article:
[Q]Let’s face it: Bright Hockey Center should be renamed Bright Reading Center. It’s as quiet as a library on Friday and Saturday nights.[/Q]
I also thought it was strange that the author made a big deal about the fact that neither team was in first, but didn't mention that Cornell is both undefeated in ECAC play and has games in hand on the leaders.



Post Edited (12-07-03 10:38)

Thar was actually an extremely good article. I guess Shane Hynes is "Son of Sam."

Exactly - as far as I'm concerned, this game did put us back in first. You have to account for half-games or winning percentage or however you want to do it. Just counting points is stupid. If you must count, you should at least count down from 44 - every loss counts -2 and a tie is -1. Counting down assumes that the teams will win all their games in hand, using half games assumes that the teams will go .500 during their games-in-hand, while counting points assumes the teams will go .000. None of those are particularly interesting - it should just be straight win percentage and be done with it!

Greg Berge '85 wrote:

Thar was actually an extremely good article. I guess Shane Hynes is "Son of Sam."

I think Morosi's quite good. Knows what he's writing about and is not a "homer." What's he doing at Harvard?

For comparison, there's this paragraph of misinformation in today's Boston Globe (page down a bit):

[www.boston.com]



Post Edited (12-07-03 11:51)

Saw it immediately. McLee, eh?

Fact is nothing gives a perfect sense of the standings when there discrepencies. Using Win% assumes that teams will win exactly the same percentage of games the rest of the way, which is often impossible (we're .833 and can't win 13.33 games the rest of the way). Just take the standings with a grain of salt and don't worry too much about first place labels in December.

dss28 wrote:

Saw it immediately. McLee, eh?

First shutout?

good point, kk. I think that's really what's at the bottom of my beef - writers always talk about what place people are in by counting points, and that bugs me. But when I think about it, I guess my real issue is that they're talking about places at all!

[Q]The toy toss was also a bust.[/Q]

I think there were a lot more toys thrown than what was shown on camera. Most of the toys were thrown before the two teams came out, and there seemed to be a good number of them. (Most people must've realized that nobody wants a toy covered in fish guts.)

I guess if you look at it from Athletics prespective, i.e. toys REPLACING fish, then yeah, it was a bust.

janos wrote:

what was up with the sign i saw in section A, which said something along the lines of "Hey Harvard, remember McRae?"

avash is correct. my sign said "remember mcrae" on one side and "remember sammy" on the other. both were references to the harvard game at albany- the tying and winning goals.

mike



Post Edited (12-07-03 13:44)

That was a very well-written article. Good quotes too.

[Q]Keith K '93 wrote:

Just take the standings with a grain of salt and don't worry too much about first place labels in December.[/Q]In fact don't worry about it at all. Griping about some writer who wants to put someone in first with 2 losses, such as Brown, is wasted effort. The real worry is winning, and the satisfaction comes in Feb. and Mar., when those teams fall to where they belong. Of course we get some satisfaction from a certain annointed champion having 4 losses.

Good sign, and good telephone cheer to go with it

JP Morosi is one of the best. Does a lot of good work for USCHO. Only problem - poor Dylan Reese still hasn't seen Lynah, because he didn't make the trip.

Well, at least we can do our best to introduce Dylan to LYNAH EAST! I'm getting so stoked, and it's still a month away!!!

[q]....and on the back ... it said, "Remember Sammy?"[/q]

Good double-entendre

The game recap on USCHO is up

[www.uscho.com]

Two articles by Morosi from Monday's Crimson:

[www.thecrimson.com]

[www.thecrimson.com]

And another by Jessica Lee:

[www.thecrimson.com]

From the Crimson:

[Q]A curious addition to the toy frenzy was a foot-long massager. The male worker who picked it up looked a bit uneasy.[/Q]

HA HA HA That's great. It's a great start to a new tradition. Some kid is getting a great present.

[q]But the Lynah faithful managed more creativity, thanks to stellar organization. Websites such as elynah.com inform the public of Cornell cheers and game plans so as to avoid embarrassing moments like when Harvard fans mumble the middle lines of ?Ten Thousand Men of Harvard.?
[/q]

I liked this paragraph, in light of the discussions here over the last few weeks (years?).

No, some kid's mom is getting a great Christmas present

JH