Cornell - Brown
Posted by upprdeck
Cornell - Brown
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 12, 2019 07:38PM
reading the Coaches notes, we are basically down to the last man on the roster.
Down to the last 6 on D until(if) Smith comes back
Only 12 left at the forward spot too
are we even going to dress 12 this week let alone 13? I guess only if Song dresses or do we call up a club player?
just wondering, i know it would never happen, but would it be legal to call up a girl on the womens team?
Down to the last 6 on D until(if) Smith comes back
Only 12 left at the forward spot too
are we even going to dress 12 this week let alone 13? I guess only if Song dresses or do we call up a club player?
just wondering, i know it would never happen, but would it be legal to call up a girl on the womens team?
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 12, 2019 09:23PM
It's probably legal but it would be nice if you called her a woman. It ain't high school. Mods lock thread.upprdeck
just wondering, i know it would never happen, but would it be legal to call up a girl on the womens team?
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Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: kevdog8 (---.s3743.c3-0.43d-cbr1.qens-43d.ny.cable.rcncustomer.com)
Date: February 12, 2019 09:35PM
Has Cornell ever called up a club player in the recent era? This year, Schafer has been forced to dress Song, Bramwell and Brakel (when he was here) at times but has preferred to roll 11 forwards or 5 D-men over giving those guys shifts. My guess is he dresses Song/Bramwell as needed and leaves them at the end of the bench again...
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: February 12, 2019 09:44PM
kevdog8
Has Cornell ever called up a club player in the recent era? This year, Schafer has been forced to dress Song, Bramwell and Brakel (when he was here) at times but has preferred to roll 11 forwards or 5 D-men over giving those guys shifts. My guess is he dresses Song/Bramwell as needed and leaves them at the end of the bench again...
Paging Damien Rocke...
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Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 12, 2019 09:56PM
kevdog8
Has Cornell ever called up a club player in the recent era? This year, Schafer has been forced to dress Song, Bramwell and Brakel (when he was here) at times but has preferred to roll 11 forwards or 5 D-men over giving those guys shifts. My guess is he dresses Song/Bramwell as needed and leaves them at the end of the bench again...
Back in 2012-13 Craig Esposito was called up from club. He was also a varsity golfer.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 12, 2019 11:48PM
The NCAA game has improved so much even in the last 5 years that I have a really hard time imagining a club player out there now. He probably couldn't keep up with even the slowest guy on the ice now.
There are no more oak trees and pylons. Everybody out there is a freaking superhuman.
There are no more oak trees and pylons. Everybody out there is a freaking superhuman.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: BigRedHockeyFan (---.apn.wlan.upenn.edu)
Date: February 13, 2019 12:33AM
Wasn't Kevin McLeod called up from the club team in 2006?
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 13, 2019 07:36AM
is girl not PC? they are kids, my wife always asks are we watching the boys or girls play tonight. when i talk to the players they say "i play on the girls team" more than they say "womans team", they do the same for other sports like tennis or golf when i talk to kids at other schools.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/13/2019 07:36AM by upprdeck.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: marty (---.sub-174-220-19.myvzw.com)
Date: February 13, 2019 08:04AM
upprdeck
is girl not PC? they are kids, my wife always asks are we watching the boys or girls play tonight. when i talk to the players they say "i play on the girls team" more than they say "womans team", they do the same for other sports like tennis or golf when i talk to kids at other schools.
I'm often amused and confused by WTF the language mavens have decided at any instant.
One of my favorite phrases is"you guys" when it refers to men and women but even more so when it refers only to women. I use it at work on a semi regular basis and haven't ever noticed even a raised eyebrow. I notice females using this phrase too. I'll enjoy this expression while I can.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 13, 2019 09:04AM
upprdeck
is girl not PC? they are kids, my wife always asks are we watching the boys or girls play tonight. when i talk to the players they say "i play on the girls team" more than they say "womans team", they do the same for other sports like tennis or golf when i talk to kids at other schools.
I recall that the journalistic protocol is upon a person turning age 18 the appropriate reference is to “men” and “women”. But you’ll hear college coaches (and even pro coaches) routinely say things like “the boys played hard tonight” so I don’t think you should be drawn and quartered.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: dag14 (---.dhcp.bhn.net)
Date: February 13, 2019 11:26AM
Ithaca native Matt Hedge was called up from the club team. Can't remember the year. Before 2009, though.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: sah67 (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: February 13, 2019 11:51AM
BigRedHockeyFan
Wasn't Kevin McLeod called up from the club team in 2006?
I believe McLeod was an "official" member of the team and not a call-up. HockeyDB lists him as playing 13 games over 3 seasons:
[www.hockeydb.com]
2007, I believe.dag14
Ithaca native Matt Hedge was called up from the club team. Can't remember the year. Before 2009, though.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: sah67 (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: February 13, 2019 11:53AM
kevdog8
My guess is he dresses Song/Bramwell as needed and leaves them at the end of the bench again...
Bramwell has actually gotten a handful of (short) shifts. Song, on the other hand, got zero in the one game he dressed for.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: nshapiro (192.148.195.---)
Date: February 13, 2019 02:30PM
When did JV go away?
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: ACM (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 13, 2019 05:58PM
Last season we had a JV team was 93-94.nshapiro
When did JV go away?
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: kevdog8 (---.s3743.c3-0.43d-cbr1.qens-43d.ny.cable.rcncustomer.com)
Date: February 13, 2019 08:52PM
Yep, seen him out there myself, he took the shift right after Donny went down last weekend. But his shifts have been few and far between. Feel bad for the kid, he looked good in preseason.sah67
kevdog8
My guess is he dresses Song/Bramwell as needed and leaves them at the end of the bench again...
Bramwell has actually gotten a handful of (short) shifts. Song, on the other hand, got zero in the one game he dressed for.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: The Rancor (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: February 14, 2019 08:15AM
does 'club' act as a JV team now? Can players exist on both rosters?
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: February 14, 2019 10:00AM
Being as we have no scholie stuff, i think the whole campus is the roster
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-202-12.myvzw.com)
Date: February 14, 2019 12:32PM
upprdeck
Being as we have no scholie stuff, i think the whole campus is the roster
Not quite - still a bunch of ncaa eligibility steps that need to be undertaken before one is eligible to be added to a roster. Think clearinghouse, academic eligibility, amateur status etc
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 15, 2019 09:13AM
Until you have visual or genetic proof to the contrary the collective noun "you guys" is as good as any other generality.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: nshapiro (192.148.195.---)
Date: February 15, 2019 09:49AM
Visual/gentic proof means nothing. You have to know how someone self-identifies.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 15, 2019 11:05AM
We are talking genotype-phenotype here, not opinions, which vary wildly. People who act like a jackass don't actually become a jackass.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2019 06:34PM
Per Jason, Haiskanen had a second surgery and is out for the season.
Brendan Smith is back.
Brendan Smith is back.
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Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: abmarks (64.9.251.---)
Date: February 15, 2019 07:16PM
So much for taking a minute or two to settle in at the puck drop.
Also, took a while to figure this out, but I realized why the brown announcers are so annoying tonight. The broadcast doesn't pick up any background noise, all you hear is the announcer. It's weird. Yeah, I know the rink is almost empty, but with no background noise at all, it's so weird and shitty.
Also, took a while to figure this out, but I realized why the brown announcers are so annoying tonight. The broadcast doesn't pick up any background noise, all you hear is the announcer. It's weird. Yeah, I know the rink is almost empty, but with no background noise at all, it's so weird and shitty.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: Iceberg (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2019 07:28PM
I find this announcer mildly amusing in his criticism of Brown. It seems like we haven't heard him in a while because I don't think he's done some games in previous years.
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Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-203-7.myvzw.com)
Date: February 15, 2019 07:56PM
Announcer must have been drinking during the 1st intermission. Right? What is happening?
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: Iceberg (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2019 08:21PM
"I've been hit with a puck or three in the head in my day..."
Well, I think that's been quite evident during this broadcast.
Well, I think that's been quite evident during this broadcast.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2019 09:45PM
Welp, disappointing to fumble a point, but it could easily have been 2.
25 Cor (T at Brn)
22 Hvd (W at SLU)
22 Qpc (T at Uni)
21 Yal (W vs Cgt)
20 Clk (L vs Drt)
Make it all better with a win tomorrow, lads.
25 Cor (T at Brn)
22 Hvd (W at SLU)
22 Qpc (T at Uni)
21 Yal (W vs Cgt)
20 Clk (L vs Drt)
Make it all better with a win tomorrow, lads.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2019 09:48PM
good 45 min.. awful 55 secs and then just avg play the last 10..
still had we just put away one of the half a dozen point blanks shots we win.
brown was buzzing once we have away the puck multiples times in a row.
ties on the row are ok if we can find a way to play a better sat night game
for a team that has a really solid D we have blown multiple goal loads way too much
still had we just put away one of the half a dozen point blanks shots we win.
brown was buzzing once we have away the puck multiples times in a row.
ties on the row are ok if we can find a way to play a better sat night game
for a team that has a really solid D we have blown multiple goal loads way too much
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: scoop85 (---.greenmountainaccess.net)
Date: February 15, 2019 09:57PM
On both of Brown’s 1st 2 goals, Galajda was unable to freeze the puck when it looked like he had it in his sights. Certainly changed the complexion of the game, and Brown was on fire thereafter.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: Iceberg (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2019 10:08PM
I can't really blame Galajda for any of those goals. On every instance there were uncovered guys near the crease or below the faceoff dots. That sequence was some of the worst defense all year easily.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: scoop85 (---.greenmountainaccess.net)
Date: February 15, 2019 10:33PM
Iceberg
I can't really blame Galajda for any of those goals. On every instance there were uncovered guys near the crease or below the faceoff dots. That sequence was some of the worst defense all year easily.
I wasn’t intending to blame him, just making an observation. You’re correct that the defense left him pretty much to dry on all 3 goals.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: abmarks (64.9.251.---)
Date: February 15, 2019 10:36PM
scoop85
Iceberg
I can't really blame Galajda for any of those goals. On every instance there were uncovered guys near the crease or below the faceoff dots. That sequence was some of the worst defense all year easily.
I wasn’t intending to blame him, just making an observation. You’re correct that the defense left him pretty much to dry on all 3 goals.
Tru. Looked to me like he was giving up way too so many rebounds all night though.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2019 10:52PM
Galajda did misplay the initial shot that led to the second Brown goal. But the third period as a whole was one continuous mental lapse by Cornell. The first Brown goal was the result of the entire team pinching when up 3-0 and then being too far behind the play/being too tired/being too lazy to back-check as a result. After Brown tied it, Cornell lost any semblance of awareness on offense and, rather than pass the puck, everyone on the team tried to go to the net on individual efforts, resulting in zero scoring changes and plenty of turnovers.scoop85
Iceberg
I can't really blame Galajda for any of those goals. On every instance there were uncovered guys near the crease or below the faceoff dots. That sequence was some of the worst defense all year easily.
I wasn’t intending to blame him, just making an observation. You’re correct that the defense left him pretty much to dry on all 3 goals.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.sub-174-199-11.myvzw.com)
Date: February 16, 2019 01:07AM
I took some time getting out of Providence and to I95 on the way to New Haven. Surprised was I when I passed a Swarthout bus. Was that the team? Did Coach put the guys on the bus without showering?
It wasn’t the band, they were staying with the Brown band for the night. Who else could it be?
It wasn’t the band, they were staying with the Brown band for the night. Who else could it be?
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Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: ACM (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 16, 2019 07:43AM
Jim Hyla
I took some time getting out of Providence and to I95 on the way to New Haven. Surprised was I when I passed a Swarthout bus. Was that the team? Did Coach put the guys on the bus without showering?
It wasn’t the band, they were staying with the Brown band for the night. Who else could it be?
Women's basketball team also played at Brown last night.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: sah67 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 16, 2019 09:32AM
BearLover
After Brown tied it, Cornell lost any semblance of awareness on offense and, rather than pass the puck, everyone on the team tried to go to the net on individual efforts, resulting in zero scoring changes and plenty of turnovers.
That was one of Schafer's specific critiques in his post-game comments to the Sun:
Schafer
“[Brown] played well, we got point hungry and it came back and bit us in the ass. They just don’t chip pucks down on the boards in the neutral zone,” Schafer said. “We had a 2-on-1 and we decided our forward and our defensemen also wanted to join and make it a 4-on-1 so if we miss the net like we did, then it goes back the other way into a 3-on-1 and they end up scoring and we didn’t back check.”
Also not happy with the officiating:
Schafer
Schafer, citing his lineup already shorthanded due to injuries, was especially irked about two knee-on-knee plays he said should be submitted for “supplemental discipline.” Cornell was also penalized for a bizarre faceoff violation in the final seconds of overtime.
“All the stuff they let go and then all of a sudden they call the weakest call in the book,” Schafer said of the referees. “The kid drops his stick so it’s an automatic call, forget about holding, cross-checking, boarding and all that stuff. We’ve gotta get that dropping the stick out of the game, it’s frickin dangerous.”
“It’s frustrating when you have the lead three-nothing and absolutely it’s dictated by not gonna call anything more [for] the team that’s got the three-nothing lead,” Schafer said. “That’s happened in officiating for years and years and years. It’s just that we gotta overcome that and not cheat the game and get frustrated with it.”
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2019 11:06AM
if they give an A effort vs Yale a tie wont be a bad thing,
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: scoop85 (---.gmavt.net)
Date: February 16, 2019 11:41AM
He did that after an embarrassing loss at Army about 20 years ago
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: February 16, 2019 11:45AM
scoop85
He did that after an embarrassing loss at Army about 20 years ago
Yup, he did it his first season as head coach (1995-96) after losing at Army 4-1, including having them run around Army's rink for a while still in their gear before letting them on the bus. He regretted it so much (because he had to suffer with the players' stench, too) that he swore he'd never do it again.
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Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-219-18.myvzw.com)
Date: February 16, 2019 12:54PM
Brown is 28th in the pairwise. What a world.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: Jim Hyla (12.197.157.---)
Date: February 16, 2019 01:47PM
ACM
Jim Hyla
I took some time getting out of Providence and to I95 on the way to New Haven. Surprised was I when I passed a Swarthout bus. Was that the team? Did Coach put the guys on the bus without showering?
It wasn’t the band, they were staying with the Brown band for the night. Who else could it be?
Women's basketball team also played at Brown last night.
Thanks, that makes sense.
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Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2019 02:24PM
Good. Way better than dumping points to, I dunno, RPI or Colgate.Dafatone
Brown is 28th in the pairwise. What a world.
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Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: dag14 (---.dhcp.bhn.net)
Date: February 16, 2019 03:35PM
I was at that Army game, and waited outside by the bus afterward to give a care package to the player who lived with my family. Needless to say, the care package did not get on the bus. The guys didn't look at any of the waiting fans, let alone stop to talk, as they went to the bus.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: scoop85 (---.greenmountainaccess.net)
Date: February 16, 2019 04:50PM
dag14
I was at that Army game, and waited outside by the bus afterward to give a care package to the player who lived with my family. Needless to say, the care package did not get on the bus. The guys didn't look at any of the waiting fans, let alone stop to talk, as they went to the bus.
IIRC, the weather was crappy that night, and I decided not to go even thoug I live less than 30 minutes from West Point. A decision I’ve never regretted.
Re: Cornell - Brown
Posted by: ACM (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 16, 2019 05:16PM
Not to mention the blowback he received from Athletics for the violations of NCAA, Ivy League and school policy, which would have resulted in the loss of his job if it happened again.Beeeej
scoop85
He did that after an embarrassing loss at Army about 20 years ago
Yup, he did it his first season as head coach (1995-96) after losing at Army 4-1, including having them run around Army's rink for a while still in their gear before letting them on the bus. He regretted it so much (because he had to suffer with the players' stench, too) that he swore he'd never do it again.
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