Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by Jim Hyla
Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 27, 2017 02:35PM
So here's Beeeej's preseason poll.
Beeeej
Make Your Prediction: What performance would meet your expectations of Big Red Men's Hockey in 2016-17?
73 votes were received.
ECAC Bottom Third 1 1% ECAC First Round Home 24 33% ECAC First Round Bye 15 21% Lake Placid 18 25% ECAC Champions and/or NCAA Regionals 12 16% Frozen Four 1 1% National Champions 2 3%
So I guess we met/exceeded most peoples expectations.
Using the same criteria, what are you expecting for next season?
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: March 27, 2017 02:46PM
Was last years poll taken right after our elimination?
I have a feeling we have more extreme expectations (good or bad) right after the prior season ends than just before the coming season begins.
I have a feeling we have more extreme expectations (good or bad) right after the prior season ends than just before the coming season begins.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 27, 2017 02:49PM
Trotsky
Was last years poll taken right after our elimination?
I have a feeling we have more extreme expectations (good or bad) right after the prior season ends than just before the coming season begins.
No it was in the fall, but much to your point, I thought it might be interesting to see how they differ this fall, from now.
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: BearLover (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: March 27, 2017 04:36PM
What would meet my expectations for the Cornell Hockey program generally, or how do I expect them to finish next year? The former: NCAA appearance; the latter: Lake Placid
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 27, 2017 04:45PM
BearLover
What would meet my expectations for the Cornell Hockey program generally, or how do I expect them to finish next year? The former: NCAA appearance; the latter: Lake Placid
How you expect them to finish in 2017-18. There wouldn't be much point in doing the poll annually if it were the former.
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Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Hooking (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: April 01, 2017 12:16PM
How the mighty have fallen. From statistical analysis to predictions/Expectations! Of course there could be a lot of overlap here. There certainly is in reports by stock-market/investment touts.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: French Rage (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: April 01, 2017 10:02PM
Hooking
How the mighty have fallen. From statistical analysis to predictions/Expectations! Of course there could be a lot of overlap here. There certainly is in reports by stock-market/investment touts.
Fuck off.
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03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: slh10 (---.twcny.rr.com)
Date: April 02, 2017 11:41AM
+1
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: April 02, 2017 11:46AM
Hooking
How the mighty have fallen. From statistical analysis to predictions/Expectations!
Hooking (eight days earlier)
Cornell wins, 3-1.
___________________________
Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: April 25, 2017 02:46PM
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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 05/20/2017 11:14AM by Trotsky.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: nshapiro (192.148.195.---)
Date: April 25, 2017 07:01PM
Trotsky
Early TBRW? 2018 Predictions! (subject to change):
Bottom Line:
1 31 Cor 0 2 30 Qpc +3 3 29 Hvd -5 4 28 Uni -6 5 27 SLU -1 6 22 Prn +3 7 21 Clk -2 8 20 Yal +2 9 18 Drt +2 10 16 Cgt +1 11 14 RPI +2 12 9 Brn +2
Never Explain:
RS PS IMP?? Prior Ret% Ret Inc% Avg10 Reg Nieu Norm Pred Brown 7 0 0 7 .91 6.38 .09 14.20 .63 7.01 8.60 12 Clarkson 23 0 0 23 .55 12.65 .45 21.30 4.79 17.44 21.41 7 Colgate 15 0 0 15 .60 9.00 .40 19.70 3.94 12.94 15.88 10 Cornell 31 1 0 32 .63 20.06 .37 25.70 4.79 24.86 30.50 1 Dartmouth 16 0 0 16 .73 11.74 .27 20.30 2.70 14.44 17.73 9 Harvard 34 0 1 35 .51 17.89 .49 22.50 5.50 23.39 28.70 3 Princeton 19 0 0 19 .88 16.70 .12 17.60 1.06 17.77 21.80 6 Quinnipiac 27 1 0 28 .76 21.17 .24 27.10 3.31 24.47 30.03 2 RPI 12 0 0 12 .74 8.87 .26 19.30 2.52 11.39 13.97 11 SLU 28 -1 0 27 .69 18.74 .31 22.10 3.38 22.12 27.15 5 Union 34 -1 -3 30 .56 16.71 .44 27.10 6.00 22.71 27.87 4 Yale 18 0 0 18 .69 12.40 .31 26.90 4.18 16.58 20.35 8
I believe that your column headings have an issue - should be RS PS and maybe IMP...although I doubt 10 teams did exactly the same as they did from first half to second half...and IMP would have to sum to zero...so I have no idea what the AW column is.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/25/2017 07:02PM by nshapiro.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: April 25, 2017 07:19PM
Imp is divided by 2, rounded down, so it doesn't have to sum to zero.
There is an issue, though. I'll get there...
There is an issue, though. I'll get there...
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: May 20, 2017 11:37AM
I think Union's too high -- they've lost too much top-end talent. And I think Yale will be a bit higher -- maybe 5th or 6th.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: May 20, 2017 07:36PM
I was thinking about applying a punishment for teams that lose a ton of players. Right now they just have their percentage of new players multiplied by their average points from the past ten years. That means if a team has been very good for a long period they hold or even improve their estimate if they lose a lot of production (the theoretical justification being good teams tend to recruit good replacements).scoop85
I think Union's too high -- they've lost too much top-end talent. And I think Yale will be a bit higher -- maybe 5th or 6th.
My thought was I could only give them credit for some percentage of that anticipated incoming strength. For example giving them only half would scale up the "punishment" for losing production.
I will run the numbers to see what happens. I do not particularly like it when a power team loses everything but still retains a high standing. That happens sometimes but by no means always.
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 05/20/2017 07:39PM by Trotsky.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: May 20, 2017 10:53PM
I ran it with Fut weighted .5.
Changes:
Harvard 1 --> 3
Cornell 2 --> 1
Quinnipiac 3 --> 2
Union 4 --> 4
SLU 5 --> 6
Clarkson 6 --> 7
Princeton 7 --> 5
Yale 8 --> 8
Colgate 9 --> 11
RPI 10 --> 9
Dartmouth 11 --> 10
Brown 12 --> 12
Changes:
Harvard 1 --> 3
Cornell 2 --> 1
Quinnipiac 3 --> 2
Union 4 --> 4
SLU 5 --> 6
Clarkson 6 --> 7
Princeton 7 --> 5
Yale 8 --> 8
Colgate 9 --> 11
RPI 10 --> 9
Dartmouth 11 --> 10
Brown 12 --> 12
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Johnny 5 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: May 22, 2017 08:37AM
"Good things come to those who wait." ~ Arthur Guiness
Summer can now be better tolerated.
And, perhaps not all of Cornell athletics is in a death spiral?
Hope springs eternal......
Summer can now be better tolerated.
And, perhaps not all of Cornell athletics is in a death spiral?
Hope springs eternal......
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: May 22, 2017 01:14PM
Johnny 5
"Good things come to those who wait." ~ Arthur Guiness
Summer can now be better tolerated.
And, perhaps not all of Cornell athletics is in a death spiral?
Hope springs eternal......
But I don't like to ever be predicted to be #1. Unless Ned Harkness were to be the coach, of course.
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: May 22, 2017 01:16PM
Trotsky
I ran it with Fut weighted .5.
Changes:
Harvard 1 --> 3
Cornell 2 --> 1
Quinnipiac 3 --> 2
Union 4 --> 4
SLU 5 --> 6
Clarkson 6 --> 7
Princeton 7 --> 5
Yale 8 --> 8
Colgate 9 --> 11
RPI 10 --> 9
Dartmouth 11 --> 10
Brown 12 --> 12
So interestingly, no big deal.
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: May 22, 2017 03:05PM
If you drop Fut entirely Union comes in 6th.Jim Hyla
So interestingly, no big deal.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: June 23, 2017 09:53AM
With the new roster out, here's our depth by position. Superlative performers in bold. It is not a star-studded group, but Mike sounds like he is continuing to transition to a faster, more agile team.
G (3)
Stewart
Galajda
McGrath
D (9)
Kaldis
McCray
Bliss
Smith
Nuttle
Cairns
Green
Haiskanen
Shore
F (16)
Vanderlaan
Angello
Yates
Starrett
Fiegl
Tschantz
Malott
Rauter
Bauld
Murphy
Hoffman
Mullin
Betts
Baron
Locke
Donaldson
G (3)
Stewart
Galajda
McGrath
D (9)
Kaldis
McCray
Bliss
Smith
Nuttle
Cairns
Green
Haiskanen
Shore
F (16)
Vanderlaan
Angello
Yates
Starrett
Fiegl
Tschantz
Malott
Rauter
Bauld
Murphy
Hoffman
Mullin
Betts
Baron
Locke
Donaldson
Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 06/24/2017 12:46PM by Trotsky.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: ACM (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: June 23, 2017 10:48AM
Do you know something about Alec McCrea that we don't, or is this just sloppy?Trotsky
With the new roster out, here's our depth by position. Superlative performers in bold. It is not a star-studded group, but Mike sounds like he is continuing to transition to a faster, more agile team.
G (3)
Stewart
Galajda
McGrath
D (8)
Kaldis
Bliss
Smith
Nuttle
Cairns
Green
Haiskanen
Shore
F (16)
Vanderlaan
Angello
Yates
Starrett
Fiegl
Tschantz
Malott
Rauter
Bauld
Murphy
Hoffman
Mullin
Betts
Baron
Locke
Donaldson
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: June 23, 2017 12:21PM
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: ACM (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: June 23, 2017 12:59PM
Trotsky
ACM
Do you know something about Alec McCrea that we don't, or is this just sloppy?
Fixed above.
Changed. Not fixed. Is that Matt or Mark you're referring to?
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: June 23, 2017 02:59PM
Not my fault he spells his name wrong.ACM
Changed. Not fixed. Is that Matt or Mark you're referring to?
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Cop at Lynah (---.cupolice.cornell.edu)
Date: June 23, 2017 03:42PM
Don't count on Bliss being available
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: ACM (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: June 23, 2017 04:45PM
Trotsky
Not my fault he spells his name wrong.ACM
Changed. Not fixed. Is that Matt or Mark you're referring to?
But it is your fault that you do. McCrea, not McCrae. Is that so difficult?
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 23, 2017 07:42PM
This is ridiculous. Either post the basis for your claim, or don't post wild speculation.Cop at Lynah
Don't count on Bliss being available
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 23, 2017 07:45PM
Starrett (4-10-14) is a "superlative performer" but Rauter (8-9-17 while playing much of the season on D) isn't?Trotsky
With the new roster out, here's our depth by position. Superlative performers in bold. It is not a star-studded group, but Mike sounds like he is continuing to transition to a faster, more agile team.
G (3)
Stewart
Galajda
McGrath
D (9)
Kaldis
McCrae
Bliss
Smith
Nuttle
Cairns
Green
Haiskanen
Shore
F (16)
Vanderlaan
Angello
Yates
Starrett
Fiegl
Tschantz
Malott
Rauter
Bauld
Murphy
Hoffman
Mullin
Betts
Baron
Locke
Donaldson
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 24, 2017 12:45PM
BearLover
Starrett (4-10-14) is a "superlative performer" but Rauter (8-9-17 while playing much of the season on D) isn't?
Your bold choices may vary. To this day I have seen no Cornellian more bold than Terry Gage.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 24, 2017 12:46PM
Fixed above.ACM
Trotsky
Not my fault he spells his name wrong.ACM
Changed. Not fixed. Is that Matt or Mark you're referring to?
But it is your fault that you do. McCrea, not McCrae. Is that so difficult?
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Johnny 5 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: June 27, 2017 07:37AM
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 03, 2017 11:10AM
New predictions with Hayton gone and some other tweaks. Lines whenever any gap is .GTE. 3.
1. Harvard 31 2. Cornell 30 3. Quinnipiac 29 4. Union 28
5. Clarkson 22 6. SLU 22 7. Princeton 21 8. Yale 21
9. Colgate 18 10. RPI 18 11. Dartmouth 16
12. Brown 8
Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 09/03/2017 11:17AM by Trotsky.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: September 26, 2017 07:51AM
Harvard is Coaches' Choice in 2017-18
Harvard tops ECAC Hockey Media Association Poll
Coaches’ Preseason All-League Team Announced
1. Harvard (9) 119 pts 2. Quinnipiac (1) 106 pts 3. Cornell (1) 95 pts 4. Clarkson (1) 91 pts 5. Princeton 80 pts 6. Union 72 pts 7. St. Lawrence 69 8. Yale 54 9. Dartmouth 33 10. Rensselaer 32 11. Colgate 23 12. Brown 18
Harvard tops ECAC Hockey Media Association Poll
Team Points 1. Harvard (25) 342 2. Quinnipiac (3) 324 3. Cornell (1) 272 4. Princeton 246 5. Clarkson 231 6. Union (1) 195 7. Yale 195 8. St. Lawrence 188 9. Dartmouth 110 10. Rensselaer 82 11. Brown 76 12. Colgate 68
Coaches’ Preseason All-League Team Announced
Player's Name Position Class School Max Veronneau F Jr. Princeton Joe Snively F Jr. Yale Ryan Donato F Jr. Harvard Chase Priskie D Jr. Quinnipiac Adam Fox D So. Harvard Merrick Madsen G Sr. Harvard
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Johnny 5 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: September 26, 2017 03:25PM
It would be a shame to prove them wrong.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: CU2007 (160.254.108.---)
Date: October 02, 2017 12:43PM
Someone voting Union first with all the talent they lost is eye-opening.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: October 03, 2017 10:15AM
It means somebody at the hockey office gave the sheet to an intern who thought, "hey, Union's good, right?"CU2007
Someone voting Union first with all the talent they lost is eye-opening.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: October 03, 2017 10:17AM
I think we're picked exactly right. Can't pick us any higher with unknowns in net (assuming Stewart will be bypassed).Johnny 5
It would be a shame to prove them wrong.
I'm impressed that they caught Princeton's rise. The Tigers looked at times like they might be poised to jump right into the top flight. As much as I hope for overall improvement by the whole conference, we need to be mindful that with Yale dropping out of contention Princeton has probably simply replaced them.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: jeff '84 (64.74.86.---)
Date: October 03, 2017 01:43PM
FWIW: Alex Rauter was mentioned as a "hockey-playing workout buddy" of Johnny Hockey's in a Sports Illustrated article about Gaudreau's off-season workout regimen (September 25, 2017 print edition). Sorry for the blurry pic.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: October 04, 2017 08:52AM
Trotsky
I think we're picked exactly right. Can't pick us any higher with unknowns in net (assuming Stewart will be bypassed).
Who says Stewart will be bypassed? He looked pretty good to me in reduced action last year, and he fills up a lot of net. (Besides, his career numbers, such as they are, are comparable to Gillam's, although probably amassed against less tough competition.)
He style is very different from Gillam's, which was more in the Andy-Iles/mobile-goalie range. Yet we've done very well with less mobile goalies in the past. Team just needs to adjust.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: October 04, 2017 09:01AM
It was something I heard in passing. Not from a team source. It may be nothing. Personally, I have no problem with Stewart, though I wish we also had an Eddy and a Buffalo.Scersk '97
Who says Stewart will be bypassed? He looked pretty good to me in reduced action last year, and he fills up a lot of net. (Besides, his career numbers, such as they are, are comparable to Gillam's, although probably amassed against less tough competition.)
He style is very different from Gillam's, which was more in the Andy-Iles/mobile-goalie range. Yet we've done very well with less mobile goalies in the past. Team just needs to adjust.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.37.26.69.virtela.net)
Date: October 04, 2017 11:39AM
Trotsky
It was something I heard in passing. Not from a team source. It may be nothing. Personally, I have no problem with Stewart, though I wish we also had an Eddy and a Buffalo.Scersk '97
Who says Stewart will be bypassed? He looked pretty good to me in reduced action last year, and he fills up a lot of net. (Besides, his career numbers, such as they are, are comparable to Gillam's, although probably amassed against less tough competition.)
He style is very different from Gillam's, which was more in the Andy-Iles/mobile-goalie range. Yet we've done very well with less mobile goalies in the past. Team just needs to adjust.
I wish we had a Dryden.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: October 04, 2017 12:44PM
He did only play three years.Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
It was something I heard in passing. Not from a team source. It may be nothing. Personally, I have no problem with Stewart, though I wish we also had an Eddy and a Buffalo.Scersk '97
Who says Stewart will be bypassed? He looked pretty good to me in reduced action last year, and he fills up a lot of net. (Besides, his career numbers, such as they are, are comparable to Gillam's, although probably amassed against less tough competition.)
He style is very different from Gillam's, which was more in the Andy-Iles/mobile-goalie range. Yet we've done very well with less mobile goalies in the past. Team just needs to adjust.
I wish we had a Dryden.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: KenP (---.ssmcnet.noaa.gov)
Date: October 05, 2017 08:12AM
And our team was better after he left.Trotsky
He did only play three years.Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
It was something I heard in passing. Not from a team source. It may be nothing. Personally, I have no problem with Stewart, though I wish we also had an Eddy and a Buffalo.Scersk '97
Who says Stewart will be bypassed? He looked pretty good to me in reduced action last year, and he fills up a lot of net. (Besides, his career numbers, such as they are, are comparable to Gillam's, although probably amassed against less tough competition.)
He style is very different from Gillam's, which was more in the Andy-Iles/mobile-goalie range. Yet we've done very well with less mobile goalies in the past. Team just needs to adjust.
I wish we had a Dryden.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: October 06, 2017 08:02AM
KenP
And our team was better after he left.Trotsky
He did only play three years.Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
It was something I heard in passing. Not from a team source. It may be nothing. Personally, I have no problem with Stewart, though I wish we also had an Eddy and a Buffalo.Scersk '97
Who says Stewart will be bypassed? He looked pretty good to me in reduced action last year, and he fills up a lot of net. (Besides, his career numbers, such as they are, are comparable to Gillam's, although probably amassed against less tough competition.)
He style is very different from Gillam's, which was more in the Andy-Iles/mobile-goalie range. Yet we've done very well with less mobile goalies in the past. Team just needs to adjust.
I wish we had a Dryden.
Not really. I know you were probably only semi-serious. But, sure we had 1 great year, however I'd take his 3 years over any other 3.
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: October 06, 2017 01:26PM
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.37.26.69.virtela.net)
Date: October 06, 2017 04:12PM
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: dbilmes (32.218.122.---)
Date: October 10, 2017 08:06PM
This "expert" predicts Princeton to finish third and us to finish fifth, even though we both have question marks in goal.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 10, 2017 10:22PM
I can see Princeton in 3rd. Us in 5th seems pretty tough. Union in 10th is interesting. This person is definitely using lost performers as a big driver.dbilmes
This "expert" predicts Princeton to finish third and us to finish fifth, even though we both have question marks in goal.
Brown 8th. Well, alrighty, then.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 11, 2018 09:45PM
It looks like we’re on track to fulfill most peoples expectations.
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: February 12, 2018 10:19AM
Jim Hyla
It looks like we’re on track to fulfill most peoples expectations.
And 7 people have already popped the champagne corks.
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 26, 2018 12:30PM
It's funny, but given how everyone (including Coach Schafer) has been talking about the way this team outperformed expectations for such a freshman-heavy squad, about 61-69% of us are looking pretty prescient right now. At least that's until you remember that we lost in the ECAC semifinals, which in most other seasons would probably have landed us right below the bubble for an at-large bid. In fact that's exactly what happened in 2008 and 2014 - and in 2011, we made it all the way to losing in the ECAC finals and still didn't get a bid. It's by virtue of our unexpectedly great regular season record that we got the at-large and the 1 seed this year despite the early departure in Lake Placid.
So I'm also still looking at this season as outperforming expectations, this poll notwithstanding. (Maybe we should also poll on expectations for regular season record?)
That doesn't mean it's not still really disappointing that we couldn't get further this weekend. I'm one of many who believe that the team did just about all the things they needed to do on Saturday, but didn't get the bounces against a good team, and sometimes that's just how it goes. But it's always sad when a promising season ends, and I'm not going to be interested in polling on next year for a while, especially when we know so little so far about our OOC schedule. In fact, I'm kind of shocked Jim posted this poll so soon after last year's much more humiliating defeat to UMass-Lowell.
May your off-season be filled with optimism.
So I'm also still looking at this season as outperforming expectations, this poll notwithstanding. (Maybe we should also poll on expectations for regular season record?)
That doesn't mean it's not still really disappointing that we couldn't get further this weekend. I'm one of many who believe that the team did just about all the things they needed to do on Saturday, but didn't get the bounces against a good team, and sometimes that's just how it goes. But it's always sad when a promising season ends, and I'm not going to be interested in polling on next year for a while, especially when we know so little so far about our OOC schedule. In fact, I'm kind of shocked Jim posted this poll so soon after last year's much more humiliating defeat to UMass-Lowell.
May your off-season be filled with optimism.
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Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Re: Next Year's predictions/Expectations 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: March 26, 2018 12:43PM
Expectations are a moving target. The season exceeded my pre-season expectations but not my January expectations. But although going one and out in both Placid and Worcester is a bummer, Being There was still a good feeling. I hope that no matter how well we do in future getting to the ECAC SF and the NCAA 1R will always feel good.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/2018 12:43PM by Trotsky.
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