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Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 06, 2016 07:57AM

Women's Hockey Announces Seven Additions for 2016-17 Season. Here's hoping they can bring us back to recent past glory. Meaning last year was an aberration.

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 16, 2016 07:27AM

Three Cornellians Named to Canada Development Team

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 12, 2016 07:42AM

Only slightly this season, but Seven Cornellians Invited to Canada Fall Festival. It does show the tremendous quality of players that we've had.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: September 23, 2016 03:12PM

Today mediocrity, tomorrow oblivion.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: CAS (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: September 23, 2016 04:11PM

There are only 19 players on the women's roster, including 7 freshmen.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: profudge (172.76.239.---)
Date: October 14, 2016 10:12PM

Big Red Women start off with big Offensive display Beating Carleton 10-0 tonight.

For a first outing the team showed up! I worry that we only have 5 defense-women on the roster. All the more reason to show up and cheer them on against Mercyhurst next weekend. LGR!

 
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- Lou (Swarthmore MotherPucker 69-74, Stowe Slugs78-82, Hanover Storm Kings 83-85...) Big Red Fan since the 70's
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: profudge (---.dsl2-fairport.ny.frontiernet.net)
Date: October 24, 2016 07:32PM

The women looked good in their first few games winning both games against Mercyhurst 3-1 and 2-1. I was impressed by the fresh-women hustle and contribution to the scoring.

Folks they are fun to watch - do try to get to some of their games.

 
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- Lou (Swarthmore MotherPucker 69-74, Stowe Slugs78-82, Hanover Storm Kings 83-85...) Big Red Fan since the 70's
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 24, 2016 07:59PM

profudge
The women looked good in their first few games winning both games against Mercyhurst 3-1 and 2-1. I was impressed by the fresh-women hustle and contribution to the scoring.

Folks they are fun to watch - do try to get to some of their games.

And they received 1 vote in this weeks poll.burnout

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: October 24, 2016 08:30PM

profudge
The women looked good in their first few games winning both games against Mercyhurst 3-1 and 2-1. I was impressed by the fresh-women hustle and contribution to the scoring.

Folks they are fun to watch - do try to get to some of their games.

3PM this Friday vs. RPI in Troy. Best reason to visit Troy in 2016.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: TimV (---.amc.edu)
Date: October 25, 2016 11:15AM

marty

3PM this Friday vs. RPI in Troy. Best reason to visit Troy in 2016.

What??? Did Dinosaur Grill close???

 
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: dag14 (---.ag.cornell.edu)
Date: October 28, 2016 03:59PM

RPI TV is streaming the women's game live although the Cornell site does not show a broadcast. No score although Cornell looks good.

 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: October 28, 2016 06:45PM

dag14
RPI TV is streaming the women's game live although the Cornell site does not show a broadcast. No score although Cornell looks good.



Final RPI 1 Cornell 0 :)

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/28/2016 07:01PM by ursusminor.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: dag14 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 28, 2016 09:58PM

Should have won that game, damn. Their goaltender was lights out.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: dag14 (---.ag.cornell.edu)
Date: October 29, 2016 03:10PM

Women playing Union; again the game is being streamed although Cornell Athletics doesn't have a link to the Union site.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 01, 2016 07:38PM

Women @ Colgate. It's streaming here for free. They're at the new Colgate arena. 0-0 at end of first period.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 25, 2016 08:22AM

Three underclasswomen selected, along with five grads, to represent Team Canada.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: ithacat (---.cbs.cornell.edu)
Date: January 11, 2017 02:01PM

Anyone know what happened to Christian Higham?
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: mattj711 (---.jentner.com)
Date: January 11, 2017 03:29PM

She posted on Instagram after last season something along the lines of it being a very difficult decision to quit hockey to focus on getting healthy. It would be great if she were able to come back next year, but it sounded like a permanent health related retirement.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: scoop85 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: January 11, 2017 03:45PM


I'm getting a sense that after a bit of a drop-off, the talent level of the women's team is picking up again.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
Date: January 11, 2017 04:09PM

scoop85
I'm getting a sense that after a bit of a drop-off, the talent level of the women's team is picking up again.

It does feel that way. Of course, talent and coaching don't guarantee wins--Harvard's poor performance this year seems hard to explain. What is the recipe for success in this ever-evolving college sport?

 
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class of '09
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.cws.sco.cisco.com)
Date: January 12, 2017 08:06AM

imafrshmn
scoop85
I'm getting a sense that after a bit of a drop-off, the talent level of the women's team is picking up again.

It does feel that way. Of course, talent and coaching don't guarantee wins--Harvard's poor performance this year seems hard to explain. What is the recipe for success in this ever-evolving college sport?


$$$$$

Sadly.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
Date: January 12, 2017 10:40AM

Jeff Hopkins '82
imafrshmn
scoop85
I'm getting a sense that after a bit of a drop-off, the talent level of the women's team is picking up again.

It does feel that way. Of course, talent and coaching don't guarantee wins--Harvard's poor performance this year seems hard to explain. What is the recipe for success in this ever-evolving college sport?


$$$$$

Sadly.

In terms of roster size, scheduling, facilities, recruiting budget, or other things?

 
___________________________
class of '09
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.cws.sco.cisco.com)
Date: January 12, 2017 12:23PM

imafrshmn
Jeff Hopkins '82
imafrshmn
scoop85
I'm getting a sense that after a bit of a drop-off, the talent level of the women's team is picking up again.

It does feel that way. Of course, talent and coaching don't guarantee wins--Harvard's poor performance this year seems hard to explain. What is the recipe for success in this ever-evolving college sport?


$$$$$

Sadly.

In terms of roster size, scheduling, facilities, recruiting budget, or other things?

All of those, not to mention scholarship money.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: ithacat (---.cbs.cornell.edu)
Date: January 13, 2017 01:20PM

mattj711
She posted on Instagram after last season something along the lines of it being a very difficult decision to quit hockey to focus on getting healthy. It would be great if she were able to come back next year, but it sounded like a permanent health related retirement.

That's for the update.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: mas1969 (---.maine.res.rr.com)
Date: January 14, 2017 09:23AM

Jeff Hopkins '82
imafrshmn
Jeff Hopkins '82
imafrshmn
scoop85
I'm getting a sense that after a bit of a drop-off, the talent level of the women's team is picking up again.

It does feel that way. Of course, talent and coaching don't guarantee wins--Harvard's poor performance this year seems hard to explain. What is the recipe for success in this ever-evolving college sport?


$$$$$

Sadly.

In terms of roster size, scheduling, facilities, recruiting budget, or other things?

All of those, not to mention scholarship money.

Mostly scholarship money. The oil boom in Canada lifted the value of the Canadian dollar so that, by the time Johnston, Campbell, Jenner, Fortino, Rougeau and the others were being recruited, the Canadian dollar was at a small premium to the US dollar. Then the oil glut hit, coupled with opposition in the US to the Keystone pipeline and fracking, driving the loonie down to a 25% discount. This and the general higher-than-inflation annual increases in tuition have made for an unacceptably high cost for kids north of the border to attend Ivy schools that do not offer athletic scholarships as such. I know for a fact that this has derailed a couple of commitments to Cornell.

[www.canadianforex.ca]

Click on "All Time" to see the trend beginning in 1992. Currently, there is a bit of a joke going around about changes being made to the Canadian $2 coin.

Time back, Cornell had a definite advantage over other Ivy League schools because of NY state support of the statutory colleges including the Ag school, that effectively amounted to a 50% scholarship-in-kind for out-of-state (and out-of-country) students. However, some time ago NY cut back much of this aid and the University was forced to raise the tuition for these students to the same level as the endowed school.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: profudge (50.108.193.---)
Date: January 14, 2017 09:40AM

Last night's game against Princeton at Lynah was exciting and great fun to watch for a fan of ice hockey!

Princeton came in on a roll winning their last 8 games and with seemingly the hottest goal keeper in women's hockey. Princeton scored on desperate scramble around the crease early in the game and that stood as the only goal in a goal keeper's duel. Then the Big Red scored a beautiful goal with 1.02 left on the clock.

Very intense play ensued for final minute and all of OT. Cornell managed a last rush up ice with about 15 seconds on the clock; and finally put the puck in the net about 1.5 seconds after the finally buzzer. So game ended in a 1-1 tie that seemed a just outcome for the effort of both teams.

My applause and admiration to the women Big Red for a great game!

 
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 14, 2017 04:55PM

Women just beat Q 3-2 10 sec into OT.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: January 14, 2017 05:42PM

Jim Hyla
Women just beat Q 3-2 10 sec into OT.
Woohoo!
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 14, 2017 06:09PM

After all the ECAC games we're 8 in PWR and 3 in standings, by percentage. Let's beat Colgate Tuesday.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: January 17, 2017 09:05PM

Jim Hyla
After all the ECAC games we're 8 in PWR and 3 in standings, by percentage. Let's beat Colgate Tuesday.

Done. Big win, and an interesting ending. With a 2-1 lead off a 3rd Period Bunton goal, CU started a 3-on-2 rush at an empty net with under a minute left. Bunton got taken down at the red line as Colgate pushed a flurry of bodies at the net and popped it into the net with about 26 seconds left. The refs went off for a review and waved it off, as Colgate was hit with a penalty. My guess is that there was goaltender interference, but I feel the trip at the red line should have been called, IMO.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.sub-70-209-139.myvzw.com)
Date: January 17, 2017 09:07PM

Jim Hyla
After all the ECAC games we're 8 in PWR and 3 in standings, by percentage. Let's beat Colgate Tuesday.

And they just did beat them 2-1. It was an amazing end. Colgate was a man down and pulled their goalie and scored, but it was reviewed and called off. All with just 25 sec to go. I was watching but not listening, so I don't know what the call was.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.sub-70-209-139.myvzw.com)
Date: January 17, 2017 09:10PM

RichH
Jim Hyla
After all the ECAC games we're 8 in PWR and 3 in standings, by percentage. Let's beat Colgate Tuesday.

Done. Big win, and an interesting ending. With a 2-1 lead off a 3rd Period Bunton goal, CU started a 3-on-2 rush at an empty net with under a minute left. Bunton got taken down at the red line as Colgate pushed a flurry of bodies at the net and popped it into the net with about 26 seconds left. The refs went off for a review and waved it off, as Colgate was hit with a penalty. My guess is that there was goaltender interference, but I feel the trip at the red line should have been called, IMO.

I totally agree that the trip should have been called. It'll be interesting to watch the end again.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Weder (192.72.255.---)
Date: January 17, 2017 09:13PM

Jim Hyla
Jim Hyla
After all the ECAC games we're 8 in PWR and 3 in standings, by percentage. Let's beat Colgate Tuesday.

And they just did beat them 2-1. It was an amazing end. Colgate was a man down and pulled their goalie and scored, but it was reviewed and called off. All with just 25 sec to go. I was watching but not listening, so I don't know what the call was.

I don't know if there was an announcement about why the goal was waved off or about what the penalty was, but I suspect that the penalty was a bench minor against the Colgate coach, and the box score shows a penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/17/2017 09:16PM by Weder.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.sub-70-209-139.myvzw.com)
Date: January 17, 2017 09:17PM

Weder
Jim Hyla
Jim Hyla
After all the ECAC games we're 8 in PWR and 3 in standings, by percentage. Let's beat Colgate Tuesday.

And they just did beat them 2-1. It was an amazing end. Colgate was a man down and pulled their goalie and scored, but it was reviewed and called off. All with just 25 sec to go. I was watching but not listening, so I don't know what the call was.

The play-by-play announcer never said what the penalty was, but I suspect it was a bench minor against the Colgate coach, and the box score shows a penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct.

I agree that it was likely on the coach. The ref made a motion to the coach when he skated away, but what was the call to negate the goal?

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 17, 2017 09:30PM

Jim Hyla
I agree that it was likely on the coach. The ref made a motion to the coach when he skated away, but what was the call to negate the goal?
Had to be on the coach. He was jawing away and the referee made what looked like a baseball umpire's ejection motion.

Looked to me like Colgate's #10 went full speed into the crease and Voorhies, so it was likely an "in the crease" or goalie interference call. Was able to re-run the video a couple of times.

 
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: profudge (50.108.193.---)
Date: January 18, 2017 09:03AM

I was at the game and did not hear an announcement of the last penalty or the reason the refs, after a review declared "No Goal" but the very small crowd ROARED! Article on Cornell Women's Hockey web page said it was a goaltender interference call.

I agree the take-down should have been called; looked like a rugby tackle!

In the end a very exciting game - played very hard by both teams!
Way you go - Lady Big Red Team!

 
___________________________
- Lou (Swarthmore MotherPucker 69-74, Stowe Slugs78-82, Hanover Storm Kings 83-85...) Big Red Fan since the 70's
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 18, 2017 12:45PM

profudge
I was at the game and did not hear an announcement of the last penalty or the reason the refs, after a review declared "No Goal" but the very small crowd ROARED! Article on Cornell Women's Hockey web page said it was a goaltender interference call.

I agree the take-down should have been called; looked like a rugby tackle!

In the end a very exciting game - played very hard by both teams!
Way you go - Lady Big Red Team!

If the refs were to review the take down, they would be very happy they were able to negate the goal.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: dag14 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 20, 2017 08:00PM

Women beat Clarkson 2-1.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.pools.spcsdns.net)
Date: January 20, 2017 10:13PM

dag14
Women beat Clarkson 2-1.

Really sharp performance from the Red. It was a familiar defense-first formula to make this talented but short-benched edition competitive against a generally stronger and deeper opponent in Clarkson. Strong team defending and solid goaltending led to the upset. Both the Cornell goals were greasy. The one that put us up 2-1 with a minute left was a devious little wraparound that somehow squeezed between pad and post--a little bit soft, but reflected the mental edge we seemed to have in this one.

 
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class of '09
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 21, 2017 09:43AM

With the win, we move to 7 in the PWR, and to 3 in the ECAC standings. Even if we lose to SLU tonight, we'll remain in third, but obviously our PWR could change.

Compared to what I thought before the season started, this team is doing much better.banana

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: February 04, 2017 06:04PM

With the sweep of the Capital District Cornell solidifies their hold on 3rd in league, and 7th in PWR.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/04/2017 06:05PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 08, 2017 07:31AM

Micah Hart is POTW. Kristin O'Neill is twice Hon. Men. for ROTW.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.cws.sco.cisco.com)
Date: February 08, 2017 08:25AM

Jim Hyla
Micah Hart is POTW. Kristin O'Neill is twice Hon. Men. for ROTW.

Micah is now a woman's name? wtf? wtf
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.IPYX-102276-ZYO.zip.zayo.com)
Date: February 08, 2017 09:32AM

Jeff Hopkins '82
Jim Hyla
Micah Hart is POTW. Kristin O'Neill is twice Hon. Men. for ROTW.

Micah is now a woman's name? wtf? wtf
If it was spelled Myka would you have even thought twice about it?

 
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Jokes and stuff
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 08, 2017 12:11PM

Women’s Hockey Commissioners Association announces creation of national awards.

They're to have POTM and ROTM. Announcement of the fist winners is supposed to be today.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: February 08, 2017 01:24PM

Jim Hyla
Announcement of the fist winners is supposed to be today.
Now that's commitment.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.129.41.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 08, 2017 08:51PM

ugarte
Jeff Hopkins '82
Jim Hyla
Micah Hart is POTW. Kristin O'Neill is twice Hon. Men. for ROTW.

Micah is now a woman's name? wtf? wtf
If it was spelled Myka would you have even thought twice about it?

To be honest, no. But is is pronounced MEE-kah or MAI-kah?
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 08, 2017 09:40PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
ugarte
Jeff Hopkins '82
Jim Hyla
Micah Hart is POTW. Kristin O'Neill is twice Hon. Men. for ROTW.

Micah is now a woman's name? wtf? wtf
If it was spelled Myka would you have even thought twice about it?

To be honest, no. But is is pronounced MEE-kah or MAI-kah?
Probably the latter. Everyone I've known with either spelling pronounced it that way.

 
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Jokes and stuff
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 12, 2017 07:54AM

Women's Hockey Clinches Ivy Title With 5-1 Win At Brown.

At the beginning of the season I never thought that it would happen.

Congrats. It looks like good times may be returning.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2017 07:37AM

Team in playoffs.

QUARTERFINALS (Friday, February 24 - Sunday, February 26 - Best-of-three games)

No. 8 Rensselaer at No. 1 Clarkson

Friday, February 24 - Rensselaer at Clarkson, 6 p.m.
Saturday, February 25 - Rensselaer at Clarkson, 3 p.m.
Sunday, February 26 - Rensselaer at Clarkson, 3 p.m. (if necessary)

No. 7 Yale at No. 2 St. Lawrence

Friday, February 24 - Yale at St. Lawrence, 6 p.m.
Saturday, February 25 - Yale at St. Lawrence, 3 p.m.
Sunday, February 26 - Yale at St. Lawrence, 3 p.m. (if necessary)

No. 6 Colgate at No. 3 Cornell

Friday, February 24 - Colgate at Cornell, 3 p.m.
Saturday, February 25 - Colgate at Cornell, 3 p.m.
Sunday, February 26 - Colgate at Cornell, 3 p.m. (if necessary)

No. 5 Quinnipiac at No. 4 Princeton

Friday, February 24 - Quinnipiac at Princeton, 3 p.m.
Saturday, February 25 - Quinnipiac at Princeton, 3 p.m.
Sunday, February 26 - Quinnipiac at Princeton, 3 p.m. (if necessary)

Winners of the quarterfinals will earn a spot in the league’s championship weekend set to take place on March 4-5 on the campus rink of the highest remaining seed.
Should be good games. I wonder if 'gate will bring some fans. Semi and finals will almost for sure be at Clarkson. I hope SLU makes it, they should. It would make an interesting weekend.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2017 07:41AM

I just noticed that there is no video listed for any of the women's tourney games. Does anyone have any insight on this? Might the ECAC work out something like they do with the men?

edit: Scrolling down I see that the semi and finals are on ESPN3, but nothing on this weekend's games.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/20/2017 07:43AM by Jim Hyla.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2017 03:11PM

Jim Hyla
I just noticed that there is no video listed for any of the women's tourney games. Does anyone have any insight on this? Might the ECAC work out something like they do with the men?

edit: Scrolling down I see that the semi and finals are on ESPN3, but nothing on this weekend's games.

I got an email from Mr. Hagwell that the quarterfinal games will be streamed by the host schools. So it should eventually show up on the ILDN schedule. The ECAC sites, full and mobile, now list them. However they list Clarkson at Harvard, so that needs to be changed.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: February 24, 2017 06:30PM

Women come from behind to win QF Game 1 2-1 against Colgate on a late third period penalty shot goal by Freshman Kristin O'Neill.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/24/2017 06:30PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: February 25, 2017 05:00PM

Vorhees' 9th career shut out, 1-0, to send #3 Cornell to the North Country and the ECAC Semis. We will probably play #2 SLU, with #1 Clarkson hosting the winner of the Princeton-Quinnipiac game 3.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/25/2017 05:03PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 25, 2017 05:21PM

Trotsky
Vorhees' 9th career shut out, 1-0, to send #3 Cornell to the North Country and the ECAC Semis. We will probably play #2 SLU, with #1 Clarkson hosting the winner of the Princeton-Quinnipiac game 3.

Today was a case of better to be lucky than good. Colgate clearly outplayed us, and we were hanging on at the end. Strong game by Vorhees or else we'd be looking at a game 3.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 27, 2017 06:30PM

2017 GAME SCHEDULE @ Clarkson

Saturday, March 4
Semifinal Game One - No. 4 Princeton at No. 1 Clarkson, 1 p.m.
Semifinal Game Two - No. 3 Cornell vs. No. 2 St. Lawrence, 4 p.m.

Sunday, March 5
Championship Game - 2 p.m.

They will be shown on ESPN3.

 
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 01, 2017 07:24AM

Derraugh Named Finalist For ECAC Hockey Coach Of The Year

 
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
Date: March 03, 2017 11:43AM

The way the pairwise stands now, Cornell stands a good chance of getting into the NCAA tourney but the scenarios are strange. Using the pairwise calculator (http://www.bcinterruption.com/boston-college-womens-hockey/2016/10/30/13465322/2016-2017-ncaa-womens-hockey-pairwise-rankings-calculator), we see that the biggest source of uncertainty for Cornell is whether or not BC wins Hockey East; this is more important than whether or not Cornell beats St. Lawrence. If BC wins Hockey East as they are heavy favorites to do, Cornell should get in regardless of other outcomes. If BC does not win Hockey East, they should still make the NCAAs, which bumps out Cornell unless Cornell wins the auto-bid.

 
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 03, 2017 05:15PM

imafrshmn
The way the pairwise stands now, Cornell stands a good chance of getting into the NCAA tourney but the scenarios are strange. Using the pairwise calculator (http://www.bcinterruption.com/boston-college-womens-hockey/2016/10/30/13465322/2016-2017-ncaa-womens-hockey-pairwise-rankings-calculator), we see that the biggest source of uncertainty for Cornell is whether or not BC wins Hockey East; this is more important than whether or not Cornell beats St. Lawrence. If BC wins Hockey East as they are heavy favorites to do, Cornell should get in regardless of other outcomes. If BC does not win Hockey East, they should still make the NCAAs, which bumps out Cornell unless Cornell wins the auto-bid.

Thanks, that helps.

 
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 04, 2017 08:32AM

ECAC announces awards.

FIRST TEAM ALL-LEAGUE

Forward        Kennedy Marchment, St. Lawrence
Forward        Cayley Mercer, Clarkson
Forward        Brooke Webster, St. Lawrence
Defense        Savannah Harmon    Clarkson
Defense        Micah Hart, Cornell
Goaltender    Steph Neatby, Princeton

SECOND TEAM ALL-LEAGUE

Forward        Genevieve Bannon, Clarkson
Forward        Karlie Lund, Princeton
Forward        Hannah Miller, St. Lawrence
Defense        Kelsey Koelzer, Princeton
Defense        Kirsten Padalis, St. Lawrence
Goaltender    Grace Harrison, St. Lawrence

THIRD TEAM ALL-LEAGUE

Forward        Hanna Bunton, Cornell
Forward        Jessie Eldridge, Colgate
Forward        Phoebe Staenz, Yale
Defense        Taryn Baumgardt, Quinnipiac
Defense        Ella Shelton, Clarkson
Goaltender    Shea Tiley, Clarkson

ALL-ROOKIE TEAM

Forward        Carly Bullock, Princeton
Forward        Kristin O'Neill, Cornell
Forward        Michaela Pejzlova, Clarkson
Defense        Jaime Bourbonnais, Cornell     
Defense        Ella Shelton, Clarkson
Goaltender    Steph Neatby, Princeton

COACH OF YEAR

Winner is Doug Derraugh, Cornell

BEST DEFENSEMAN

Winner is Savannah Harmon, Clarkson

BEST FORWARD

Winner is Cayley Mercer, Clarkson

ROOKIE OF YEAR

Winner is Carly Bullock, Princeton

GOALTENDER OF YEAR

Winner is Steph Neatby, Princeton

PLAYER OF YEAR

Winner is Cayley Mercer, Clarkson

MANDI SCHWARTZ STUDENT-ATHLETE OF YEAR

Winner is Paula Voorheis, Cornell

 
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: dag14 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 04, 2017 04:39PM

Women's game is on ESPN3 -- leading SLU after one period.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 04, 2017 05:40PM

dag14
Women's game is on ESPN3 -- leading SLU after one period.

3-1 AFTER 2.

 
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.sub-70-209-144.myvzw.com)
Date: March 04, 2017 06:15PM

Jim Hyla
dag14
Women's game is on ESPN3 -- leading SLU after one period.

3-1 AFTER 2.

They win 3-1.

 
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: dag14 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 04, 2017 06:17PM

Great finish; kill a long 5on3 and then survive SLU pulling the goalie with about 4 minutes left in the 3rd. Hope they have enough gas in the tank to take on Clarkson tomorrow....
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: mattj711 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: March 04, 2017 06:24PM

dag14
Great finish; kill a long 5on3 and then survive SLU pulling the goalie with about 4 minutes left in the 3rd. Hope they have enough gas in the tank to take on Clarkson tomorrow....

Yes it was...also Cornell making the NCAA tournament now pretty much comes down to either pulling off another upset tomorrow or, failing that, for BC to not choke against whomever the play (BU or NU) tomorrow.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 04, 2017 06:32PM

dag14
Great finish; kill a long 5on3 and then survive SLU pulling the goalie with about 4 minutes left in the 3rd. Hope they have enough gas in the tank to take on Clarkson tomorrow....

They pulled the goalie on the 5 on 3, to make 6 on 3, and kept her off for the rest of the game. Although they survived that, I have to think that Clarkson will be much better rested tomorrow. We basically played 2 lines and D for a lot of the game. Get your rest women, sleep tight.

Game at 2 on ESPN 3.

 
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Dafatone (---.midco.net)
Date: March 05, 2017 02:10PM

Anyone else getting a technical difficulties issue from ESPN3?
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 05, 2017 02:11PM

The broadcast of the finals, on ESPN3, is not working. There is just a message saying, "The broadcast you are watching is experiencing technical difficulties."
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 05, 2017 02:11PM

Dafatone
Anyone else getting a technical difficulties issue from ESPN3?

Yes.

See the post below yours. We posted at the same time.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Dafatone (---.midco.net)
Date: March 05, 2017 02:22PM

There's an audio link on the ecac site: [ecachockey.com]

But it's that really, really, really annoying Clarkson guy with the annoying mic issues, and I have a hangover, so no thanks.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 05, 2017 02:24PM

Clarkson up 1-0, 7:39 remaining in the first.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 05, 2017 02:34PM

ESPN3 video working now.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: dag14 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 05, 2017 02:36PM

I have the feed in time to enjoy the between-period commercials.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: daredevilcu (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 05, 2017 02:56PM

Here's a link to the NOT FREE working video (start of the 2nd) if anyone needs it.

[www.ecachockey.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/05/2017 02:58PM by daredevilcu.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 05, 2017 03:46PM

imafrshmn
The way the pairwise stands now, Cornell stands a good chance of getting into the NCAA tourney but the scenarios are strange. Using the pairwise calculator (http://www.bcinterruption.com/boston-college-womens-hockey/2016/10/30/13465322/2016-2017-ncaa-womens-hockey-pairwise-rankings-calculator), we see that the biggest source of uncertainty for Cornell is whether or not BC wins Hockey East;

The finals--Northeastern vs BC-- is tied at 1 at the end of regulation.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: March 05, 2017 04:09PM

andyw2100
imafrshmn
The way the pairwise stands now, Cornell stands a good chance of getting into the NCAA tourney but the scenarios are strange. Using the pairwise calculator (http://www.bcinterruption.com/boston-college-womens-hockey/2016/10/30/13465322/2016-2017-ncaa-womens-hockey-pairwise-rankings-calculator), we see that the biggest source of uncertainty for Cornell is whether or not BC wins Hockey East;

The finals--Northeastern vs BC-- is tied at 1 at the end of regulation.

BC wins in OT. Takes a little sting off Cornell's loss.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
Date: March 05, 2017 04:12PM

BC wins, so Cornell should get in. Big question is whether we get matched up against Clarkson again or perhaps Minnesota-Duluth.

 
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: March 05, 2017 04:16PM

Hard fought game, Clarkson makes their 1st period goal stand up. That Cornell team seemed completely spent in the 3rd, as they couldn't seem to set up any offensive zone pressure as the clock wound down. Tough loss, but hopefully their season isn't over.

Clarkson wins their first ECAC title, to go along with their...NCAA championship from a few years ago.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 05, 2017 04:38PM

imafrshmn
BC wins, so Cornell should get in. Big question is whether we get matched up against Clarkson again or perhaps Minnesota-Duluth.

They pick 8 teams and here's the PWR before today's results.

Women’s National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	       PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank
1	Wisconsin	35	30-2-4	.8889	2	.6608*	2
2	Minnesota-Duluth34	25-5-5	.7857	7	.6178*	3
3	Clarkson	33	28-4-5	.8243	3	.6169*	4
4	St. Lawrence	32	26-5-4	.8000	4	.6050*	5
5	Boston College	31	26-5-5	.7917	6	.6025*	6
6	Minnesota	30	25-7-5	.7432	8	.5975*	7
7	Cornell	        29	20-7-5	.7031	9	.5775*	8
8	Robert Morris	28	24-4-6	.7941	5	.5590*	9

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

These 8 should get bids, as 9 & 10 are PU & NE, and the 8 include the conf champs.

They seed 4 and put 4 more in by geographic criteria. They want to not have air travel.

So W & UMD in west, Clarkson & I'd guess BC in east.

The remaining 4 are difficult as there's only 1 more western team, Minny.

So I'm guessing they send RMU to the West #1 seed.

CU and SLU in east. Which goes to Clarkson and which to BC? I'd like to see final PWR, but based on us beating SLU, they might send us to BC and SLU to Clarkson.

But I'm pretty sure we'll stay east.

We'll see at 9 tonight.

 
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: mattj711 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: March 05, 2017 04:45PM

Jim Hyla
imafrshmn
BC wins, so Cornell should get in. Big question is whether we get matched up against Clarkson again or perhaps Minnesota-Duluth.

They pick 8 teams and here's the PWR before today's results.

Women’s National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	       PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank
1	Wisconsin	35	30-2-4	.8889	2	.6608*	2
2	Minnesota-Duluth34	25-5-5	.7857	7	.6178*	3
3	Clarkson	33	28-4-5	.8243	3	.6169*	4
4	St. Lawrence	32	26-5-4	.8000	4	.6050*	5
5	Boston College	31	26-5-5	.7917	6	.6025*	6
6	Minnesota	30	25-7-5	.7432	8	.5975*	7
7	Cornell	        29	20-7-5	.7031	9	.5775*	8
8	Robert Morris	28	24-4-6	.7941	5	.5590*	9

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

These 8 should get bids, as 9 & 10 are PU & NE, and the 8 include the conf champs.

They seed 4 and put 4 more in by geographic criteria. They want to not have air travel.

So W & UMD in west, Clarkson & I'd guess BC in east.

The remaining 4 are difficult as there's only 1 more western team, Minny.

So I'm guessing they send RMU to the West #1 seed.

CU and SLU in east. Which goes to Clarkson and which to BC? I'd like to see final PWR, but based on us beating SLU, they might send us to BC and SLU to Clarkson.

But I'm pretty sure we'll stay east.

We'll see at 9 tonight.

With the BC's win today, they should pass SLU in the standings. So Cornell will most likely end up at Clarkson and SLU should head to BC. SLU is far enough ahead of Cornell in the standings that it would be highly unlikely that SLU will be sent to Clarkson.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: daredevilcu (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 05, 2017 07:05PM

Final PWR is:

1 Wisconsin
2 Clarkson
3 Minnesota-Duluth
4 Boston College
5 St. Lawrence
6 Minnesota
7 Cornell
8 Robert Morris

With it being so straightforward to keep perfect bracket integrity, it would be a pretty ridiculous thing to send Cornell to Boston. Pretty nakedly shrewd "save a bus trip expense" decision if it goes that way.

#8 Robert Morris @ #1 Wisconsin
#7 Cornell @ #2 Clarkson
#6 Minnesota @ #3 Minnesota-Duluth
#5 St. Lawrence @ #4 Boston College

If it goes any other way, the selection committee is being dumb.

EDIT:

Watched the selection show. Official bracket is:


#8 Robert Morris @ #1 Wisconsin
#5 St. Lawrence @ #4 Boston College

#6 Minnesota @ #3 Minnesota-Duluth (WCHA semifinal rematch)
#7 Cornell @ #2 Clarkson (ECAC final rematch)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/05/2017 09:14PM by daredevilcu.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 05, 2017 09:26PM

Back to Clarkson. Saturday @ 3.

 
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: daredevilcu (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 07, 2017 06:22PM

[www.ecachockey.com]

Wow.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: mattj711 (---.sub-174-232-6.myvzw.com)
Date: March 07, 2017 06:42PM

daredevilcu
[www.ecachockey.com]

Wow.

Wow is right. I didn't see what exactly she did to draw the penalty at the time. I would like to see that play in front of Cornell's empty net again.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: daredevilcu (---.sub-174-199-17.myvzw.com)
Date: March 07, 2017 07:33PM

I would too. I don't recall thinking anything heinous.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 07, 2017 08:22PM

Crazy thought, but could this be the powers that be at the ECAC wanting to try to tip the scales a bit to make it more likely that the "stronger" team moves on to the next round?

I was watching the game and also thought it didn't look like much of anything at the time.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: daredevilcu (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 07, 2017 08:31PM

Spoke with some friends who were at the game, and they thought it was pretty bad. Apparently it was a cross check to stop a Clarkson player who was about to score on the empty net or something. Again, I don't recall thinking it was anything crazy, certainly not suspension-worthy, but I would really like to see the hit again.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: mattj711 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: March 07, 2017 08:42PM

andyw2100
Crazy thought, but could this be the powers that be at the ECAC wanting to try to tip the scales a bit to make it more likely that the "stronger" team moves on to the next round?

I was watching the game and also thought it didn't look like much of anything at the time.

My mind went there too.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 07, 2017 08:46PM

daredevilcu
Spoke with some friends who were at the game, and they thought it was pretty bad. Apparently it was a cross check to stop a Clarkson player who was about to score on the empty net or something. Again, I don't recall thinking it was anything crazy, certainly not suspension-worthy, but I would really like to see the hit again.

As I recall, both players were kind of tussling at the side of the empty net. It wasn't as if the Clarkson player was stopped, and the Cornell player took a run at her. It also wasn't one player being pulled down from behind, heading for a sure goal with an empty net.

I remember thinking at the time that it was a stupid penalty to take, as it did not seem clear to me that it was preventing a sure goal.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/07/2017 08:47PM by andyw2100.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 07, 2017 09:07PM

Video.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: imafrshmn (---.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
Date: March 07, 2017 09:48PM

That center ice camera angle sure makes it look violent, but it's really hard to tell what's going on. A ref has a good angle on it and didn't think it was worth more than a minor. So yeah, this league decision is pretty flabbergasting.

 
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 07, 2017 09:49PM

hard to tell if clarkson was embellishing the contact but she stayed down for a while and it was definitely a cheap hit

 
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: daredevilcu (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 07, 2017 11:10PM

Where did you find a video?

Edit: missed it on mobile. It does look like she cross checks her in the head from that angle. With the emphasis on CTH I wouldn't be surprised if that was the logic for the suspension.
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: BearLover (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: March 08, 2017 01:08AM

I know very little about the women's game, but given the lack of hitting I assume the bar is much lower for a DQ/suspension.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 08, 2017 01:14AM

BearLover
I know very little about the women's game, but given the lack of hitting I assume the bar is much lower for a DQ/suspension.

That may be, but she wasn't given a game disqualification by the officials. The league chose to get involved.

In my opinion, even if the league thought there was enough there to issue the disqualification under normal circumstances, in what I'm sure was a close call, it would seem that for an NCAA playoff game they might have chosen to go the other way. They could even have had someone call Coach Derraugh, and say, "Hey--we seriously considered suspending your player, but chose not to because it was the NCAA tournament. Just know it was close."

Kristin O'Neill probably grew up dreaming of getting the chance to play for a National Championship. Sure, she's a freshman, so hopefully will get another chance (or two or three), but to have this one taken away from her for something that wasn't even called on the ice just really rubs me the wrong way. I feel for her.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: BearLover (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: March 08, 2017 01:38AM

andyw2100
BearLover
I know very little about the women's game, but given the lack of hitting I assume the bar is much lower for a DQ/suspension.

That may be, but she wasn't given a game disqualification by the officials. The league chose to get involved.

In my opinion, even if the league thought there was enough there to issue the disqualification under normal circumstances, in what I'm sure was a close call, it would seem that for an NCAA playoff game they might have chosen to go the other way. They could even have had someone call Coach Derraugh, and say, "Hey--we seriously considered suspending your player, but chose not to because it was the NCAA tournament. Just know it was close."

Kristin O'Neill probably grew up dreaming of getting the chance to play for a National Championship. Sure, she's a freshman, so hopefully will get another chance (or two or three), but to have this one taken away from her for something that wasn't even called on the ice just really rubs me the wrong way. I feel for her.
Oh, I didn't mean to suggest she'd received a DQ. I probably shouldn't have mentioned it in my initial post. I completely agree with the rest of your post--just as the bar may be lower due to the nature of the women's game, it should be higher because it's the NCAA tournament.
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 08, 2017 07:21AM

BearLover
andyw2100
BearLover
I know very little about the women's game, but given the lack of hitting I assume the bar is much lower for a DQ/suspension.

That may be, but she wasn't given a game disqualification by the officials. The league chose to get involved.

In my opinion, even if the league thought there was enough there to issue the disqualification under normal circumstances, in what I'm sure was a close call, it would seem that for an NCAA playoff game they might have chosen to go the other way. They could even have had someone call Coach Derraugh, and say, "Hey--we seriously considered suspending your player, but chose not to because it was the NCAA tournament. Just know it was close."

Kristin O'Neill probably grew up dreaming of getting the chance to play for a National Championship. Sure, she's a freshman, so hopefully will get another chance (or two or three), but to have this one taken away from her for something that wasn't even called on the ice just really rubs me the wrong way. I feel for her.
Oh, I didn't mean to suggest she'd received a DQ. I probably shouldn't have mentioned it in my initial post. I completely agree with the rest of your post--just as the bar may be lower due to the nature of the women's game, it should be higher because it's the NCAA tournament.

No, she came at a defenseless player with a hard illegal check. It should be called for what it was. I would hope that even in the men's game, a defenseless check would have been punished. Those are the type of checks that can be career ending, and how can you say that because the next game is an NCAA game, you'll look the other way. If you want to eliminate that type of play, you call it whenever it occurs. She hurt the team and now has to live with it.

 
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Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: March 08, 2017 08:49AM

andyw2100
Crazy thought, but could this be the powers that be at the ECAC wanting to try to tip the scales a bit to make it more likely that the "stronger" team moves on to the next round?

I was watching the game and also thought it didn't look like much of anything at the time.
Let's not be Got6. smashfreak
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: CU2007 (160.254.108.---)
Date: March 08, 2017 09:04AM

haha wow ... barely touched her
 
Re: Women's Team 2016-17
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 08, 2017 10:41AM

Jim Hyla
No, she came at a defenseless player with a hard illegal check. It should be called for what it was. I would hope that even in the men's game, a defenseless check would have been punished. Those are the type of checks that can be career ending, and how can you say that because the next game is an NCAA game, you'll look the other way. If you want to eliminate that type of play, you call it whenever it occurs. She hurt the team and now has to live with it.

It's not often that I disagree with you, Jim, but I'm going to now.

The main issue is that the infraction wasn't called on the ice. It wasn't even called as a major penalty. My concern is the league stepping in, and increasing the punishment so significantly.

As for the Clarkson player being defenseless, she was already engaged with another Cornell player, so it's not as if she was skating in clear ice and was blind-sided. O'Neill did come skating in from some distance away, but as I see it, she basically stopped before cross-checking the Clarkson player. If there was truly "inten to to injure", she wouldn't have stopped.

If the play was black and white, sure, don't change anything because it is the NCAA tournament. But I really think the ECAC waded into a very gray-area play, especially since the hit was ruled a minor penalty on the ice. To levy that much additional punishment in this situation I just see as wrong.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/08/2017 10:42AM by andyw2100.
 
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