Women's Team 2016-17

Women's Hockey Announces Seven Additions for 2016-17 Season. Here's hoping they can bring us back to recent past glory. Meaning last year was an aberration.

Three Cornellians Named to Canada Development Team

Only slightly this season, but Seven Cornellians Invited to Canada Fall Festival. It does show the tremendous quality of players that we've had.

Today mediocrity, tomorrow oblivion.

There are only 19 players on the women's roster, including 7 freshmen.

Big Red Women start off with big Offensive display Beating Carleton 10-0 tonight.

For a first outing the team showed up! I worry that we only have 5 defense-women on the roster. All the more reason to show up and cheer them on against Mercyhurst next weekend. LGR!

The women looked good in their first few games winning both games against Mercyhurst 3-1 and 2-1. I was impressed by the fresh-women hustle and contribution to the scoring.

Folks they are fun to watch - do try to get to some of their games.

profudge
The women looked good in their first few games winning both games against Mercyhurst 3-1 and 2-1. I was impressed by the fresh-women hustle and contribution to the scoring.

Folks they are fun to watch - do try to get to some of their games.

And they received 1 vote in this weeks poll.

profudge
The women looked good in their first few games winning both games against Mercyhurst 3-1 and 2-1. I was impressed by the fresh-women hustle and contribution to the scoring.

Folks they are fun to watch - do try to get to some of their games.

3PM this Friday vs. RPI in Troy. Best reason to visit Troy in 2016.

marty

3PM this Friday vs. RPI in Troy. Best reason to visit Troy in 2016.

What??? Did Dinosaur Grill close???

RPI TV is streaming the women's game live although the Cornell site does not show a broadcast. No score although Cornell looks good.

dag14
RPI TV is streaming the women's game live although the Cornell site does not show a broadcast. No score although Cornell looks good.

Final RPI 1 Cornell 0

Selander Shuts Out Cornell #RPIHockey #ECACHockey [t.co]

— RPI Athletics (@RPIAthletics) October 28, 2016

Should have won that game, damn. Their goaltender was lights out.

Women playing Union; again the game is being streamed although Cornell Athletics doesn't have a link to the Union site.

Women @ Colgate. It's streaming here for free. They're at the new Colgate arena. 0-0 at end of first period.

Three underclasswomen selected, along with five grads, to represent Team Canada.

Anyone know what happened to Christian Higham?

She posted on Instagram after last season something along the lines of it being a very difficult decision to quit hockey to focus on getting healthy. It would be great if she were able to come back next year, but it sounded like a permanent health related retirement.

Jim Hyla
Three underclasswomen selected, along with five grads, to represent Team Canada.

I'm getting a sense that after a bit of a drop-off, the talent level of the women's team is picking up again.

scoop85
I'm getting a sense that after a bit of a drop-off, the talent level of the women's team is picking up again.

It does feel that way. Of course, talent and coaching don't guarantee wins--Harvard's poor performance this year seems hard to explain. What is the recipe for success in this ever-evolving college sport?

imafrshmn

scoop85
I'm getting a sense that after a bit of a drop-off, the talent level of the women's team is picking up again.

It does feel that way. Of course, talent and coaching don't guarantee wins--Harvard's poor performance this year seems hard to explain. What is the recipe for success in this ever-evolving college sport?

$$$$$

Sadly.

Jeff Hopkins '82

imafrshmn

scoop85
I'm getting a sense that after a bit of a drop-off, the talent level of the women's team is picking up again.

It does feel that way. Of course, talent and coaching don't guarantee wins--Harvard's poor performance this year seems hard to explain. What is the recipe for success in this ever-evolving college sport?

$$$$$

Sadly.

In terms of roster size, scheduling, facilities, recruiting budget, or other things?

imafrshmn

Jeff Hopkins '82

imafrshmn

scoop85
I'm getting a sense that after a bit of a drop-off, the talent level of the women's team is picking up again.

It does feel that way. Of course, talent and coaching don't guarantee wins--Harvard's poor performance this year seems hard to explain. What is the recipe for success in this ever-evolving college sport?

$$$$$

Sadly.

In terms of roster size, scheduling, facilities, recruiting budget, or other things?

All of those, not to mention scholarship money.

mattj711
She posted on Instagram after last season something along the lines of it being a very difficult decision to quit hockey to focus on getting healthy. It would be great if she were able to come back next year, but it sounded like a permanent health related retirement.

That's for the update.

Jeff Hopkins '82

imafrshmn

Jeff Hopkins '82

imafrshmn

scoop85
I'm getting a sense that after a bit of a drop-off, the talent level of the women's team is picking up again.

It does feel that way. Of course, talent and coaching don't guarantee wins--Harvard's poor performance this year seems hard to explain. What is the recipe for success in this ever-evolving college sport?

$$$$$

Sadly.

In terms of roster size, scheduling, facilities, recruiting budget, or other things?

All of those, not to mention scholarship money.

Mostly scholarship money. The oil boom in Canada lifted the value of the Canadian dollar so that, by the time Johnston, Campbell, Jenner, Fortino, Rougeau and the others were being recruited, the Canadian dollar was at a small premium to the US dollar. Then the oil glut hit, coupled with opposition in the US to the Keystone pipeline and fracking, driving the loonie down to a 25% discount. This and the general higher-than-inflation annual increases in tuition have made for an unacceptably high cost for kids north of the border to attend Ivy schools that do not offer athletic scholarships as such. I know for a fact that this has derailed a couple of commitments to Cornell.

[www.canadianforex.ca]

Click on "All Time" to see the trend beginning in 1992. Currently, there is a bit of a joke going around about changes being made to the Canadian $2 coin.

Time back, Cornell had a definite advantage over other Ivy League schools because of NY state support of the statutory colleges including the Ag school, that effectively amounted to a 50% scholarship-in-kind for out-of-state (and out-of-country) students. However, some time ago NY cut back much of this aid and the University was forced to raise the tuition for these students to the same level as the endowed school.

Last night's game against Princeton at Lynah was exciting and great fun to watch for a fan of ice hockey!

Princeton came in on a roll winning their last 8 games and with seemingly the hottest goal keeper in women's hockey. Princeton scored on desperate scramble around the crease early in the game and that stood as the only goal in a goal keeper's duel. Then the Big Red scored a beautiful goal with 1.02 left on the clock.

Very intense play ensued for final minute and all of OT. Cornell managed a last rush up ice with about 15 seconds on the clock; and finally put the puck in the net about 1.5 seconds after the finally buzzer. So game ended in a 1-1 tie that seemed a just outcome for the effort of both teams.

My applause and admiration to the women Big Red for a great game!

Women just beat Q 3-2 10 sec into OT.

Jim Hyla
Women just beat Q 3-2 10 sec into OT.

Woohoo!

After all the ECAC games we're 8 in PWR and 3 in standings, by percentage. Let's beat Colgate Tuesday.

Jim Hyla
After all the ECAC games we're 8 in PWR and 3 in standings, by percentage. Let's beat Colgate Tuesday.

Done. Big win, and an interesting ending. With a 2-1 lead off a 3rd Period Bunton goal, CU started a 3-on-2 rush at an empty net with under a minute left. Bunton got taken down at the red line as Colgate pushed a flurry of bodies at the net and popped it into the net with about 26 seconds left. The refs went off for a review and waved it off, as Colgate was hit with a penalty. My guess is that there was goaltender interference, but I feel the trip at the red line should have been called, IMO.

Jim Hyla
After all the ECAC games we're 8 in PWR and 3 in standings, by percentage. Let's beat Colgate Tuesday.

And they just did beat them 2-1. It was an amazing end. Colgate was a man down and pulled their goalie and scored, but it was reviewed and called off. All with just 25 sec to go. I was watching but not listening, so I don't know what the call was.

RichH

Jim Hyla
After all the ECAC games we're 8 in PWR and 3 in standings, by percentage. Let's beat Colgate Tuesday.

Done. Big win, and an interesting ending. With a 2-1 lead off a 3rd Period Bunton goal, CU started a 3-on-2 rush at an empty net with under a minute left. Bunton got taken down at the red line as Colgate pushed a flurry of bodies at the net and popped it into the net with about 26 seconds left. The refs went off for a review and waved it off, as Colgate was hit with a penalty. My guess is that there was goaltender interference, but I feel the trip at the red line should have been called, IMO.

I totally agree that the trip should have been called. It'll be interesting to watch the end again.

Jim Hyla

Jim Hyla
After all the ECAC games we're 8 in PWR and 3 in standings, by percentage. Let's beat Colgate Tuesday.

And they just did beat them 2-1. It was an amazing end. Colgate was a man down and pulled their goalie and scored, but it was reviewed and called off. All with just 25 sec to go. I was watching but not listening, so I don't know what the call was.

I don't know if there was an announcement about why the goal was waved off or about what the penalty was, but I suspect that the penalty was a bench minor against the Colgate coach, and the box score shows a penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Weder

Jim Hyla

Jim Hyla
After all the ECAC games we're 8 in PWR and 3 in standings, by percentage. Let's beat Colgate Tuesday.

And they just did beat them 2-1. It was an amazing end. Colgate was a man down and pulled their goalie and scored, but it was reviewed and called off. All with just 25 sec to go. I was watching but not listening, so I don't know what the call was.

The play-by-play announcer never said what the penalty was, but I suspect it was a bench minor against the Colgate coach, and the box score shows a penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct.

I agree that it was likely on the coach. The ref made a motion to the coach when he skated away, but what was the call to negate the goal?

Jim Hyla
I agree that it was likely on the coach. The ref made a motion to the coach when he skated away, but what was the call to negate the goal?

Had to be on the coach. He was jawing away and the referee made what looked like a baseball umpire's ejection motion.

Looked to me like Colgate's #10 went full speed into the crease and Voorhies, so it was likely an "in the crease" or goalie interference call. Was able to re-run the video a couple of times.

I was at the game and did not hear an announcement of the last penalty or the reason the refs, after a review declared "No Goal" but the very small crowd ROARED! Article on Cornell Women's Hockey web page said it was a goaltender interference call.

I agree the take-down should have been called; looked like a rugby tackle!

In the end a very exciting game - played very hard by both teams!
Way you go - Lady Big Red Team!

profudge
I was at the game and did not hear an announcement of the last penalty or the reason the refs, after a review declared "No Goal" but the very small crowd ROARED! Article on Cornell Women's Hockey web page said it was a goaltender interference call.

I agree the take-down should have been called; looked like a rugby tackle!

In the end a very exciting game - played very hard by both teams!
Way you go - Lady Big Red Team!

If the refs were to review the take down, they would be very happy they were able to negate the goal.

Women beat Clarkson 2-1.

dag14
Women beat Clarkson 2-1.

Really sharp performance from the Red. It was a familiar defense-first formula to make this talented but short-benched edition competitive against a generally stronger and deeper opponent in Clarkson. Strong team defending and solid goaltending led to the upset. Both the Cornell goals were greasy. The one that put us up 2-1 with a minute left was a devious little wraparound that somehow squeezed between pad and post--a little bit soft, but reflected the mental edge we seemed to have in this one.

With the win, we move to 7 in the PWR, and to 3 in the ECAC standings. Even if we lose to SLU tonight, we'll remain in third, but obviously our PWR could change.

Compared to what I thought before the season started, this team is doing much better.

With the sweep of the Capital District Cornell solidifies their hold on 3rd in league, and 7th in PWR.

Micah Hart is POTW. Kristin O'Neill is twice Hon. Men. for ROTW.

Jim Hyla
Micah Hart is POTW. Kristin O'Neill is twice Hon. Men. for ROTW.

Micah is now a woman's name? wtf?

Jeff Hopkins '82

Jim Hyla
Micah Hart is POTW. Kristin O'Neill is twice Hon. Men. for ROTW.

Micah is now a woman's name? wtf?

If it was spelled Myka would you have even thought twice about it?

Women’s Hockey Commissioners Association announces creation of national awards.

They're to have POTM and ROTM. Announcement of the fist winners is supposed to be today.

Jim Hyla
Announcement of the fist winners is supposed to be today.

Now that's commitment.

ugarte

Jeff Hopkins '82

Jim Hyla
Micah Hart is POTW. Kristin O'Neill is twice Hon. Men. for ROTW.

Micah is now a woman's name? wtf?

If it was spelled Myka would you have even thought twice about it?

To be honest, no. But is is pronounced MEE-kah or MAI-kah?

Jeff Hopkins '82

ugarte

Jeff Hopkins '82

Jim Hyla
Micah Hart is POTW. Kristin O'Neill is twice Hon. Men. for ROTW.

Micah is now a woman's name? wtf?

If it was spelled Myka would you have even thought twice about it?

To be honest, no. But is is pronounced MEE-kah or MAI-kah?

Probably the latter. Everyone I've known with either spelling pronounced it that way.

Women's Hockey Clinches Ivy Title With 5-1 Win At Brown.

At the beginning of the season I never thought that it would happen.

Congrats. It looks like good times may be returning.

Team in playoffs.

QUARTERFINALS (Friday, February 24 - Sunday, February 26 - Best-of-three games)

No. 8 Rensselaer at No. 1 Clarkson

Friday, February 24 - Rensselaer at Clarkson, 6 p.m.
Saturday, February 25 - Rensselaer at Clarkson, 3 p.m.
Sunday, February 26 - Rensselaer at Clarkson, 3 p.m. (if necessary)

No. 7 Yale at No. 2 St. Lawrence

Friday, February 24 - Yale at St. Lawrence, 6 p.m.
Saturday, February 25 - Yale at St. Lawrence, 3 p.m.
Sunday, February 26 - Yale at St. Lawrence, 3 p.m. (if necessary)

No. 6 Colgate at No. 3 Cornell

Friday, February 24 - Colgate at Cornell, 3 p.m.
Saturday, February 25 - Colgate at Cornell, 3 p.m.
Sunday, February 26 - Colgate at Cornell, 3 p.m. (if necessary)

No. 5 Quinnipiac at No. 4 Princeton

Friday, February 24 - Quinnipiac at Princeton, 3 p.m.
Saturday, February 25 - Quinnipiac at Princeton, 3 p.m.
Sunday, February 26 - Quinnipiac at Princeton, 3 p.m. (if necessary)

Winners of the quarterfinals will earn a spot in the league’s championship weekend set to take place on March 4-5 on the campus rink of the highest remaining seed.

Should be good games. I wonder if 'gate will bring some fans. Semi and finals will almost for sure be at Clarkson. I hope SLU makes it, they should. It would make an interesting weekend.

I just noticed that there is no video listed for any of the women's tourney games. Does anyone have any insight on this? Might the ECAC work out something like they do with the men?

edit: Scrolling down I see that the semi and finals are on ESPN3, but nothing on this weekend's games.

Jim Hyla
I just noticed that there is no video listed for any of the women's tourney games. Does anyone have any insight on this? Might the ECAC work out something like they do with the men?

edit: Scrolling down I see that the semi and finals are on ESPN3, but nothing on this weekend's games.

I got an email from Mr. Hagwell that the quarterfinal games will be streamed by the host schools. So it should eventually show up on the ILDN schedule. The ECAC sites, full and mobile, now list them. However they list Clarkson at Harvard, so that needs to be changed.

Women come from behind to win QF Game 1 2-1 against Colgate on a late third period penalty shot goal by Freshman Kristin O'Neill.

Vorhees' 9th career shut out, 1-0, to send #3 Cornell to the North Country and the ECAC Semis. We will probably play #2 SLU, with #1 Clarkson hosting the winner of the Princeton-Quinnipiac game 3.

Trotsky
Vorhees' 9th career shut out, 1-0, to send #3 Cornell to the North Country and the ECAC Semis. We will probably play #2 SLU, with #1 Clarkson hosting the winner of the Princeton-Quinnipiac game 3.

Today was a case of better to be lucky than good. Colgate clearly outplayed us, and we were hanging on at the end. Strong game by Vorhees or else we'd be looking at a game 3.

2017 GAME SCHEDULE @ Clarkson

Saturday, March 4
Semifinal Game One - No. 4 Princeton at No. 1 Clarkson, 1 p.m.
Semifinal Game Two - No. 3 Cornell vs. No. 2 St. Lawrence, 4 p.m.

Sunday, March 5
Championship Game - 2 p.m.

They will be shown on ESPN3.

Derraugh Named Finalist For ECAC Hockey Coach Of The Year

The way the pairwise stands now, Cornell stands a good chance of getting into the NCAA tourney but the scenarios are strange. Using the pairwise calculator (http://www.bcinterruption.com/boston-college-womens-hockey/2016/10/30/13465322/2016-2017-ncaa-womens-hockey-pairwise-rankings-calculator), we see that the biggest source of uncertainty for Cornell is whether or not BC wins Hockey East; this is more important than whether or not Cornell beats St. Lawrence. If BC wins Hockey East as they are heavy favorites to do, Cornell should get in regardless of other outcomes. If BC does not win Hockey East, they should still make the NCAAs, which bumps out Cornell unless Cornell wins the auto-bid.

imafrshmn
The way the pairwise stands now, Cornell stands a good chance of getting into the NCAA tourney but the scenarios are strange. Using the pairwise calculator (http://www.bcinterruption.com/boston-college-womens-hockey/2016/10/30/13465322/2016-2017-ncaa-womens-hockey-pairwise-rankings-calculator), we see that the biggest source of uncertainty for Cornell is whether or not BC wins Hockey East; this is more important than whether or not Cornell beats St. Lawrence. If BC wins Hockey East as they are heavy favorites to do, Cornell should get in regardless of other outcomes. If BC does not win Hockey East, they should still make the NCAAs, which bumps out Cornell unless Cornell wins the auto-bid.

Thanks, that helps.

ECAC announces awards.

FIRST TEAM ALL-LEAGUE

Forward        Kennedy Marchment, St. Lawrence
Forward        Cayley Mercer, Clarkson
Forward        Brooke Webster, St. Lawrence
Defense        Savannah Harmon    Clarkson
Defense        Micah Hart, Cornell
Goaltender    Steph Neatby, Princeton

SECOND TEAM ALL-LEAGUE

Forward        Genevieve Bannon, Clarkson
Forward        Karlie Lund, Princeton
Forward        Hannah Miller, St. Lawrence
Defense        Kelsey Koelzer, Princeton
Defense        Kirsten Padalis, St. Lawrence
Goaltender    Grace Harrison, St. Lawrence

THIRD TEAM ALL-LEAGUE

Forward        Hanna Bunton, Cornell
Forward        Jessie Eldridge, Colgate
Forward        Phoebe Staenz, Yale
Defense        Taryn Baumgardt, Quinnipiac
Defense        Ella Shelton, Clarkson
Goaltender    Shea Tiley, Clarkson

ALL-ROOKIE TEAM

Forward        Carly Bullock, Princeton
Forward        Kristin O'Neill, Cornell
Forward        Michaela Pejzlova, Clarkson
Defense        Jaime Bourbonnais, Cornell     
Defense        Ella Shelton, Clarkson
Goaltender    Steph Neatby, Princeton

COACH OF YEAR

Winner is Doug Derraugh, Cornell

BEST DEFENSEMAN

Winner is Savannah Harmon, Clarkson

BEST FORWARD

Winner is Cayley Mercer, Clarkson

ROOKIE OF YEAR

Winner is Carly Bullock, Princeton

GOALTENDER OF YEAR

Winner is Steph Neatby, Princeton

PLAYER OF YEAR

Winner is Cayley Mercer, Clarkson

MANDI SCHWARTZ STUDENT-ATHLETE OF YEAR

Winner is Paula Voorheis, Cornell

Women's game is on ESPN3 -- leading SLU after one period.

dag14
Women's game is on ESPN3 -- leading SLU after one period.

3-1 AFTER 2.

Jim Hyla

dag14
Women's game is on ESPN3 -- leading SLU after one period.

3-1 AFTER 2.

They win 3-1.

Great finish; kill a long 5on3 and then survive SLU pulling the goalie with about 4 minutes left in the 3rd. Hope they have enough gas in the tank to take on Clarkson tomorrow....

dag14
Great finish; kill a long 5on3 and then survive SLU pulling the goalie with about 4 minutes left in the 3rd. Hope they have enough gas in the tank to take on Clarkson tomorrow....

Yes it was...also Cornell making the NCAA tournament now pretty much comes down to either pulling off another upset tomorrow or, failing that, for BC to not choke against whomever the play (BU or NU) tomorrow.

dag14
Great finish; kill a long 5on3 and then survive SLU pulling the goalie with about 4 minutes left in the 3rd. Hope they have enough gas in the tank to take on Clarkson tomorrow....

They pulled the goalie on the 5 on 3, to make 6 on 3, and kept her off for the rest of the game. Although they survived that, I have to think that Clarkson will be much better rested tomorrow. We basically played 2 lines and D for a lot of the game. Get your rest women, sleep tight.

Game at 2 on ESPN 3.

Anyone else getting a technical difficulties issue from ESPN3?

The broadcast of the finals, on ESPN3, is not working. There is just a message saying, "The broadcast you are watching is experiencing technical difficulties."

Dafatone
Anyone else getting a technical difficulties issue from ESPN3?

Yes.

See the post below yours. We posted at the same time.

There's an audio link on the ecac site: [ecachockey.com]

But it's that really, really, really annoying Clarkson guy with the annoying mic issues, and I have a hangover, so no thanks.

Clarkson up 1-0, 7:39 remaining in the first.

ESPN3 video working now.

I have the feed in time to enjoy the between-period commercials.

Here's a link to the NOT FREE working video (start of the 2nd) if anyone needs it.

[www.ecachockey.com]

imafrshmn
The way the pairwise stands now, Cornell stands a good chance of getting into the NCAA tourney but the scenarios are strange. Using the pairwise calculator (http://www.bcinterruption.com/boston-college-womens-hockey/2016/10/30/13465322/2016-2017-ncaa-womens-hockey-pairwise-rankings-calculator), we see that the biggest source of uncertainty for Cornell is whether or not BC wins Hockey East;

The finals--Northeastern vs BC-- is tied at 1 at the end of regulation.

andyw2100

imafrshmn
The way the pairwise stands now, Cornell stands a good chance of getting into the NCAA tourney but the scenarios are strange. Using the pairwise calculator (http://www.bcinterruption.com/boston-college-womens-hockey/2016/10/30/13465322/2016-2017-ncaa-womens-hockey-pairwise-rankings-calculator), we see that the biggest source of uncertainty for Cornell is whether or not BC wins Hockey East;

The finals--Northeastern vs BC-- is tied at 1 at the end of regulation.

BC wins in OT. Takes a little sting off Cornell's loss.

BC wins, so Cornell should get in. Big question is whether we get matched up against Clarkson again or perhaps Minnesota-Duluth.

Hard fought game, Clarkson makes their 1st period goal stand up. That Cornell team seemed completely spent in the 3rd, as they couldn't seem to set up any offensive zone pressure as the clock wound down. Tough loss, but hopefully their season isn't over.

Clarkson wins their first ECAC title, to go along with their...NCAA championship from a few years ago.

imafrshmn
BC wins, so Cornell should get in. Big question is whether we get matched up against Clarkson again or perhaps Minnesota-Duluth.

They pick 8 teams and here's the PWR before today's results.

Women’s National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	       PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank
1	Wisconsin	35	30-2-4	.8889	2	.6608*	2
2	Minnesota-Duluth34	25-5-5	.7857	7	.6178*	3
3	Clarkson	33	28-4-5	.8243	3	.6169*	4
4	St. Lawrence	32	26-5-4	.8000	4	.6050*	5
5	Boston College	31	26-5-5	.7917	6	.6025*	6
6	Minnesota	30	25-7-5	.7432	8	.5975*	7
7	Cornell	        29	20-7-5	.7031	9	.5775*	8
8	Robert Morris	28	24-4-6	.7941	5	.5590*	9

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

These 8 should get bids, as 9 & 10 are PU & NE, and the 8 include the conf champs.

They seed 4 and put 4 more in by geographic criteria. They want to not have air travel.

So W & UMD in west, Clarkson & I'd guess BC in east.

The remaining 4 are difficult as there's only 1 more western team, Minny.

So I'm guessing they send RMU to the West #1 seed.

CU and SLU in east. Which goes to Clarkson and which to BC? I'd like to see final PWR, but based on us beating SLU, they might send us to BC and SLU to Clarkson.

But I'm pretty sure we'll stay east.

We'll see at 9 tonight.

Jim Hyla

imafrshmn
BC wins, so Cornell should get in. Big question is whether we get matched up against Clarkson again or perhaps Minnesota-Duluth.

They pick 8 teams and here's the PWR before today's results.

Women’s National Collegiate PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	       PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank
1	Wisconsin	35	30-2-4	.8889	2	.6608*	2
2	Minnesota-Duluth34	25-5-5	.7857	7	.6178*	3
3	Clarkson	33	28-4-5	.8243	3	.6169*	4
4	St. Lawrence	32	26-5-4	.8000	4	.6050*	5
5	Boston College	31	26-5-5	.7917	6	.6025*	6
6	Minnesota	30	25-7-5	.7432	8	.5975*	7
7	Cornell	        29	20-7-5	.7031	9	.5775*	8
8	Robert Morris	28	24-4-6	.7941	5	.5590*	9

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

These 8 should get bids, as 9 & 10 are PU & NE, and the 8 include the conf champs.

They seed 4 and put 4 more in by geographic criteria. They want to not have air travel.

So W & UMD in west, Clarkson & I'd guess BC in east.

The remaining 4 are difficult as there's only 1 more western team, Minny.

So I'm guessing they send RMU to the West #1 seed.

CU and SLU in east. Which goes to Clarkson and which to BC? I'd like to see final PWR, but based on us beating SLU, they might send us to BC and SLU to Clarkson.

But I'm pretty sure we'll stay east.

We'll see at 9 tonight.

With the BC's win today, they should pass SLU in the standings. So Cornell will most likely end up at Clarkson and SLU should head to BC. SLU is far enough ahead of Cornell in the standings that it would be highly unlikely that SLU will be sent to Clarkson.

Final PWR is:

1 Wisconsin
2 Clarkson
3 Minnesota-Duluth
4 Boston College
5 St. Lawrence
6 Minnesota
7 Cornell
8 Robert Morris

With it being so straightforward to keep perfect bracket integrity, it would be a pretty ridiculous thing to send Cornell to Boston. Pretty nakedly shrewd "save a bus trip expense" decision if it goes that way.

#8 Robert Morris @ #1 Wisconsin
#7 Cornell @ #2 Clarkson
#6 Minnesota @ #3 Minnesota-Duluth
#5 St. Lawrence @ #4 Boston College

If it goes any other way, the selection committee is being dumb.

EDIT:

Watched the selection show. Official bracket is:


#8 Robert Morris @ #1 Wisconsin
#5 St. Lawrence @ #4 Boston College

#6 Minnesota @ #3 Minnesota-Duluth (WCHA semifinal rematch)
#7 Cornell @ #2 Clarkson (ECAC final rematch)

Back to Clarkson. Saturday @ 3.

[www.ecachockey.com]

Wow.

daredevilcu
[www.ecachockey.com]

Wow.

Wow is right. I didn't see what exactly she did to draw the penalty at the time. I would like to see that play in front of Cornell's empty net again.

I would too. I don't recall thinking anything heinous.

Crazy thought, but could this be the powers that be at the ECAC wanting to try to tip the scales a bit to make it more likely that the "stronger" team moves on to the next round?

I was watching the game and also thought it didn't look like much of anything at the time.

Spoke with some friends who were at the game, and they thought it was pretty bad. Apparently it was a cross check to stop a Clarkson player who was about to score on the empty net or something. Again, I don't recall thinking it was anything crazy, certainly not suspension-worthy, but I would really like to see the hit again.

andyw2100
Crazy thought, but could this be the powers that be at the ECAC wanting to try to tip the scales a bit to make it more likely that the "stronger" team moves on to the next round?

I was watching the game and also thought it didn't look like much of anything at the time.

My mind went there too.

daredevilcu
Spoke with some friends who were at the game, and they thought it was pretty bad. Apparently it was a cross check to stop a Clarkson player who was about to score on the empty net or something. Again, I don't recall thinking it was anything crazy, certainly not suspension-worthy, but I would really like to see the hit again.

As I recall, both players were kind of tussling at the side of the empty net. It wasn't as if the Clarkson player was stopped, and the Cornell player took a run at her. It also wasn't one player being pulled down from behind, heading for a sure goal with an empty net.

I remember thinking at the time that it was a stupid penalty to take, as it did not seem clear to me that it was preventing a sure goal.

Video.

That center ice camera angle sure makes it look violent, but it's really hard to tell what's going on. A ref has a good angle on it and didn't think it was worth more than a minor. So yeah, this league decision is pretty flabbergasting.

hard to tell if clarkson was embellishing the contact but she stayed down for a while and it was definitely a cheap hit

Where did you find a video?

Edit: missed it on mobile. It does look like she cross checks her in the head from that angle. With the emphasis on CTH I wouldn't be surprised if that was the logic for the suspension.

I know very little about the women's game, but given the lack of hitting I assume the bar is much lower for a DQ/suspension.

BearLover
I know very little about the women's game, but given the lack of hitting I assume the bar is much lower for a DQ/suspension.

That may be, but she wasn't given a game disqualification by the officials. The league chose to get involved.

In my opinion, even if the league thought there was enough there to issue the disqualification under normal circumstances, in what I'm sure was a close call, it would seem that for an NCAA playoff game they might have chosen to go the other way. They could even have had someone call Coach Derraugh, and say, "Hey--we seriously considered suspending your player, but chose not to because it was the NCAA tournament. Just know it was close."

Kristin O'Neill probably grew up dreaming of getting the chance to play for a National Championship. Sure, she's a freshman, so hopefully will get another chance (or two or three), but to have this one taken away from her for something that wasn't even called on the ice just really rubs me the wrong way. I feel for her.

andyw2100

BearLover
I know very little about the women's game, but given the lack of hitting I assume the bar is much lower for a DQ/suspension.

That may be, but she wasn't given a game disqualification by the officials. The league chose to get involved.

In my opinion, even if the league thought there was enough there to issue the disqualification under normal circumstances, in what I'm sure was a close call, it would seem that for an NCAA playoff game they might have chosen to go the other way. They could even have had someone call Coach Derraugh, and say, "Hey--we seriously considered suspending your player, but chose not to because it was the NCAA tournament. Just know it was close."

Kristin O'Neill probably grew up dreaming of getting the chance to play for a National Championship. Sure, she's a freshman, so hopefully will get another chance (or two or three), but to have this one taken away from her for something that wasn't even called on the ice just really rubs me the wrong way. I feel for her.

Oh, I didn't mean to suggest she'd received a DQ. I probably shouldn't have mentioned it in my initial post. I completely agree with the rest of your post--just as the bar may be lower due to the nature of the women's game, it should be higher because it's the NCAA tournament.

BearLover

andyw2100

BearLover
I know very little about the women's game, but given the lack of hitting I assume the bar is much lower for a DQ/suspension.

That may be, but she wasn't given a game disqualification by the officials. The league chose to get involved.

In my opinion, even if the league thought there was enough there to issue the disqualification under normal circumstances, in what I'm sure was a close call, it would seem that for an NCAA playoff game they might have chosen to go the other way. They could even have had someone call Coach Derraugh, and say, "Hey--we seriously considered suspending your player, but chose not to because it was the NCAA tournament. Just know it was close."

Kristin O'Neill probably grew up dreaming of getting the chance to play for a National Championship. Sure, she's a freshman, so hopefully will get another chance (or two or three), but to have this one taken away from her for something that wasn't even called on the ice just really rubs me the wrong way. I feel for her.

Oh, I didn't mean to suggest she'd received a DQ. I probably shouldn't have mentioned it in my initial post. I completely agree with the rest of your post--just as the bar may be lower due to the nature of the women's game, it should be higher because it's the NCAA tournament.

No, she came at a defenseless player with a hard illegal check. It should be called for what it was. I would hope that even in the men's game, a defenseless check would have been punished. Those are the type of checks that can be career ending, and how can you say that because the next game is an NCAA game, you'll look the other way. If you want to eliminate that type of play, you call it whenever it occurs. She hurt the team and now has to live with it.

andyw2100
Crazy thought, but could this be the powers that be at the ECAC wanting to try to tip the scales a bit to make it more likely that the "stronger" team moves on to the next round?

I was watching the game and also thought it didn't look like much of anything at the time.

Let's not be Got6.

haha wow ... barely touched her

Jim Hyla
No, she came at a defenseless player with a hard illegal check. It should be called for what it was. I would hope that even in the men's game, a defenseless check would have been punished. Those are the type of checks that can be career ending, and how can you say that because the next game is an NCAA game, you'll look the other way. If you want to eliminate that type of play, you call it whenever it occurs. She hurt the team and now has to live with it.

It's not often that I disagree with you, Jim, but I'm going to now.

The main issue is that the infraction wasn't called on the ice. It wasn't even called as a major penalty. My concern is the league stepping in, and increasing the punishment so significantly.

As for the Clarkson player being defenseless, she was already engaged with another Cornell player, so it's not as if she was skating in clear ice and was blind-sided. O'Neill did come skating in from some distance away, but as I see it, she basically stopped before cross-checking the Clarkson player. If there was truly "inten to to injure", she wouldn't have stopped.

If the play was black and white, sure, don't change anything because it is the NCAA tournament. But I really think the ECAC waded into a very gray-area play, especially since the hit was ruled a minor penalty on the ice. To levy that much additional punishment in this situation I just see as wrong.