ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by jtwcornell91
ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: February 15, 2015 05:21PM
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2015 07:37AM
I can get to the points, but not the script.
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Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: February 16, 2015 09:28AM
Same here.Jim Hyla
I can get to the points, but not the script.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: February 16, 2015 10:52AM
Should work now. Forgot to git add.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: February 16, 2015 11:03AM
Great as always!jtwcornell91
Should work now. Forgot to git add.
Also available from the TBRW 2015 page which is of course everybody's home page.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/16/2015 11:03AM by Trotsky.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2015 06:43PM
I haven't done all the possibilities, but so far, if we win out , as does Q and SLU, and Yale beats 'gate, I get us finishing third. If 'gate wins, we're fourth. It makes sense since Harvard and Dartmouth play Q and SLU (2 losses), Yale plays Q, us and 'gate (2-3 losses), 'gate plays our schedule, and we have the tie-breaker with Clarkson, even if it's 3 way with Yale.
Now all we have to do is win 4 in a row. That's easy, isn't it?
I didn't figure in any ties.
Now all we have to do is win 4 in a row. That's easy, isn't it?
I didn't figure in any ties.
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Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: February 16, 2015 07:28PM
How 'bout twelve?Jim Hyla
Now all we have to do is win 4 in a row. That's easy, isn't it?
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: February 16, 2015 10:42PM
If we finish fourth, we have to hope one of the 6-12 teams wins in week 2 of the playoffs and they get to be cannon fodder for Quinnipiac Friday in Lake Placid. We played that role last year to Union.Jim Hyla
I haven't done all the possibilities, but so far, if we win out , as does Q and SLU, and Yale beats 'gate, I get us finishing third.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: dbilmes (72.10.105.---)
Date: February 17, 2015 07:17AM
We still have a lot of work to do just to get a first-round bye. But if we do end up having to play Quinnipiac, we lost twice to them this year by identical 1-0 scores. It's not like they blew us out the way Yale used to in previous years.billhoward
If we finish fourth, we have to hope one of the 6-12 teams wins in week 2 of the playoffs and they get to be cannon fodder for Quinnipiac Friday in Lake Placid. We played that role last year to Union.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Give My Regards (---.nys.biz.rr.com)
Date: February 17, 2015 08:57AM
As long as we're playing pie-in-the-sky, how about this:
Quinnipiac, Clarkson, and Cornell all win out.
St. Lawrence goes 0-4.
Yale beats Colgate.
This would set up a tie for second at 26 points among Cornell, Clarkson, and possibly Yale. Cornell would take second based on a head-to-head sweep against the other two.
Quinnipiac, Clarkson, and Cornell all win out.
St. Lawrence goes 0-4.
Yale beats Colgate.
This would set up a tie for second at 26 points among Cornell, Clarkson, and possibly Yale. Cornell would take second based on a head-to-head sweep against the other two.
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Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: February 17, 2015 08:57AM
A bye isn't impossible, but we should talk about the path in the likelier scenario that we finish 5th through 8th.
5th and 6th mean playing Princeton or Brown; while they just had a great weekend (7 of 8 points) they seem clearly below Union, who I still think is dangerous in a short series.
7th or 8th means Union or RPI. It's possible that one of them may recover form, so 7th means we play the poorer of the two.
Likewise, each step up means increasing the odds of delaying potentially lethal meetings with Q, SLU and Dartmouth.
tl; dr: Every slot actually matters.
5th and 6th mean playing Princeton or Brown; while they just had a great weekend (7 of 8 points) they seem clearly below Union, who I still think is dangerous in a short series.
7th or 8th means Union or RPI. It's possible that one of them may recover form, so 7th means we play the poorer of the two.
Likewise, each step up means increasing the odds of delaying potentially lethal meetings with Q, SLU and Dartmouth.
tl; dr: Every slot actually matters.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: February 17, 2015 09:04AM
One thing that may help. This will be the first time this season that Cornell plays 3 consecutive opponents unranked in USCHO.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: BearLover (---.wrls.harvard.edu)
Date: February 17, 2015 02:18PM
This team hasn't had a 4-point weekend since November. I don't think we have to worry about any byes.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.sub-70-209-143.myvzw.com)
Date: February 17, 2015 03:53PM
BearLover
This team hasn't had a 4-point weekend since November. I don't think we have to worry about any byes.
Nobody's worrying, but this thread is labeled "possibilities ".
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: KeithK (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: February 17, 2015 10:00PM
It's more fun to dream of unlikely possibilities (like twelve game winning streaks) than to just write off the team as a lousy .500 squad and look forward to November.Jim Hyla
BearLover
This team hasn't had a 4-point weekend since November. I don't think we have to worry about any byes.
Nobody's worrying, but this thread is labeled "possibilities ".
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: February 18, 2015 09:06AM
4 then anything that allows a 6 game one at the end is excaptable
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: KeithK (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: February 18, 2015 11:18AM
I can live with that!upprdeck
4 then anything that allows a 6 game one at the end is excaptable
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: TimV (---.amc.edu)
Date: February 18, 2015 12:04PM
Trotsky
they seem clearly below Union, who I still think is dangerous in a short series.
Isn't the first round best of three? That's the LONGEST series in college hockey.
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Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: February 18, 2015 12:46PM
And for all that, it's still a short series.TimV
Trotsky
they seem clearly below Union, who I still think is dangerous in a short series.
Isn't the first round best of three? That's the LONGEST series in college hockey.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: February 18, 2015 01:12PM
4 pt weekends until the ecac final 4 is the first goal..
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 18, 2015 01:13PM
Trotsky
And for all that, it's still a short series.TimV
Trotsky
they seem clearly below Union, who I still think is dangerous in a short series.
Isn't the first round best of three? That's the LONGEST series in college hockey.
Come on, short and long are relative, and in college hockey 3 is long!
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Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Roy 82 (128.18.14.---)
Date: February 18, 2015 02:03PM
KeithK
It's more fun to dream of unlikely possibilities (like twelve game winning streaks) than to just write off the team as a lousy .500 squad and look forward to November.Jim Hyla
BearLover
This team hasn't had a 4-point weekend since November. I don't think we have to worry about any byes.
Nobody's worrying, but this thread is labeled "possibilities ".
I happen to think that we are one of the top .500 squads in the country (seriously).
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 18, 2015 05:25PM
This is as good a place as any to post Tom Fleischman, who covers Cornell hockey for the Ithaca Journal, will be the guest on the next edition of the "Slap Schotts College Segment" on Rodger Wyland's "Big Board Sportstalk" at 11:05 a.m. on FOX Sports 980 (WOFX-AM).
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
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Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: February 18, 2015 07:59PM
We are the absolute best .480 squad in the country. By any measure you care to come up with.Roy 82
KeithK
It's more fun to dream of unlikely possibilities (like twelve game winning streaks) than to just write off the team as a lousy .500 squad and look forward to November.Jim Hyla
BearLover
This team hasn't had a 4-point weekend since November. I don't think we have to worry about any byes.
Nobody's worrying, but this thread is labeled "possibilities ".
I happen to think that we are one of the top .500 squads in the country (seriously).
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: February 20, 2015 05:10PM
upprdeck
4 pt weekends until the ecac final 4 is the first goal..
"The destination is Lake Placid..."
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 20, 2015 06:40PM
upprdeck
4 pt weekends until the ecac final 4 is the first goal..
And to do that we need to score more than one goal!!
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Iceberg (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2015 09:48PM
Things got very, very interesting with the North Country results. It seems only Quinnipiac and St. Lawrence are ensured with a BYE at this point.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2015 10:27PM
cornell win tomorrow and there are results that makes 4th place totally up for grabs next weekend. RPI winning tomorrow would help, but STL and Quin winning out still looms large.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Towerroad (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 21, 2015 11:09AM
I think that is the saddest thing I have heard all week.KeithK
We are the absolute best .480 squad in the country. By any measure you care to come up with.Roy 82
KeithK
It's more fun to dream of unlikely possibilities (like twelve game winning streaks) than to just write off the team as a lousy .500 squad and look forward to November.Jim Hyla
BearLover
This team hasn't had a 4-point weekend since November. I don't think we have to worry about any byes.
Nobody's worrying, but this thread is labeled "possibilities ".
I happen to think that we are one of the top .500 squads in the country (seriously).
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Iceberg (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 21, 2015 09:22PM
QU ties Brown despite being down 2-0 in the 3rd and killing off a dubious major call at the end of regulation. Probably the softest boarding major I've ever seen called by any referee actually. They clinch 1st.
St. Lawrence only needs one point next weekend to lock up 2nd place (pretty much assured at this point considering they go to the capital district).
Edit: St. Lawrence has already clinched 2nd. They win the tiebreaker with Yale.
St. Lawrence only needs one point next weekend to lock up 2nd place (pretty much assured at this point considering they go to the capital district).
Edit: St. Lawrence has already clinched 2nd. They win the tiebreaker with Yale.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2015 11:58PM by Iceberg.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 21, 2015 10:15PM
We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.
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Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 21, 2015 10:51PM
dont we win a tie breaker with harvard and Colgate? is the first tie broken on head to head so even if they both split and we sweep we would beat them both?
even getting to 5th means princeton round 1 so some value there
even getting to 5th means princeton round 1 so some value there
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: BearLover (---.wrls.harvard.edu)
Date: February 21, 2015 11:21PM
We don't need to have Colgate lose to either of them, if the tiebreaker is head-to-head.TimV
We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: February 22, 2015 12:23AM
We can even finish 3rd.TimV
We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: February 22, 2015 01:53AM
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We don't need to have Colgate lose to either of them, if the tiebreaker is head-to-head.TimV
We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: BearLover (---.wrls.harvard.edu)
Date: February 22, 2015 02:31AM
So correct me if I'm wrong, but if Q and us win out, we get a bye, right?jtwcornell91
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We don't need to have Colgate lose to either of them, if the tiebreaker is head-to-head.TimV
We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Dafatone (---.midco.net)
Date: February 22, 2015 02:39AM
BearLover
So correct me if I'm wrong, but if Q and us win out, we get a bye, right?jtwcornell91
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We don't need to have Colgate lose to either of them, if the tiebreaker is head-to-head.TimV
We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.
I think if Colgate beats Brown and ties Yale, we'd wind up behind both Colgate and Yale.
So we need to sweep, for Q to sweep, and for Colgate and Yale to not tie. That's... actually somewhat doable.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: BearLover (---.wrls.harvard.edu)
Date: February 22, 2015 04:44AM
Ah, yes, didn't consider the tie--good call.Dafatone
BearLover
So correct me if I'm wrong, but if Q and us win out, we get a bye, right?jtwcornell91
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We don't need to have Colgate lose to either of them, if the tiebreaker is head-to-head.TimV
We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.
I think if Colgate beats Brown and ties Yale, we'd wind up behind both Colgate and Yale.
So we need to sweep, for Q to sweep, and for Colgate and Yale to not tie. That's... actually somewhat doable.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: February 22, 2015 09:14AM
Paging Bill Fenwick...
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: February 22, 2015 09:27AM
BearLover
Ah, yes, didn't consider the tie--good call.Dafatone
BearLover
So correct me if I'm wrong, but if Q and us win out, we get a bye, right?jtwcornell91
[www.elynah.com]BearLover
We don't need to have Colgate lose to either of them, if the tiebreaker is head-to-head.TimV
We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.
I think if Colgate beats Brown and ties Yale, we'd wind up behind both Colgate and Yale.
So we need to sweep, for Q to sweep, and for Colgate and Yale to not tie. That's... actually somewhat doable.
Quoted just for the bananas.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: February 22, 2015 09:32AM
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: February 22, 2015 06:08PM
If one follows the current KRACH in filling in the winners of the final games, the only "un-KRACH-y" thing that needs to happen for us to end up in 4th is for us to beat Yale.
Of course, that means two nights of 4 road winners and 2 home winners, which seems a bit unlikely to me… but… eh… still… it's oddly comforting. It could happen!
PS Ah-ha! Glad for that postponed Beanpot! Hope BC and Harvard play a long, bruising consie; can always hope for a DQ for Vesey.
Of course, that means two nights of 4 road winners and 2 home winners, which seems a bit unlikely to me… but… eh… still… it's oddly comforting. It could happen!
PS Ah-ha! Glad for that postponed Beanpot! Hope BC and Harvard play a long, bruising consie; can always hope for a DQ for Vesey.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/22/2015 06:43PM by Scersk '97.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: February 23, 2015 01:22AM
Scersk '97
If one follows the current KRACH in filling in the winners of the final games, the only "un-KRACH-y" thing that needs to happen for us to end up in 4th is for us to beat Yale.
Of course, that means two nights of 4 road winners and 2 home winners, which seems a bit unlikely to me… but… eh… still… it's oddly comforting. It could happen!
PS Ah-ha! Glad for that postponed Beanpot! Hope BC and Harvard play a long, bruising consie; can always hope for a DQ for Vesey.
I was going to suggest using KASA but it looks like the CHN page isn't there, and I don't think I ever got around to adding it to my geek scripts although I do now have gone and away data.
Re: ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff
Posted by: Give My Regards (---.nys.biz.rr.com)
Date: February 23, 2015 04:36PM
jtwcornell91
Paging Bill Fenwick...
Here you go, have at it...
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