ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff

Sorry it's a little late this year.

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I can get to the points, but not the script.

Jim Hyla
I can get to the points, but not the script.

Same here.

Should work now. Forgot to git add.

jtwcornell91
Should work now. Forgot to git add.

Great as always!

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I haven't done all the possibilities, but so far, if we win out , as does Q and SLU, and Yale beats 'gate, I get us finishing third. If 'gate wins, we're fourth. It makes sense since Harvard and Dartmouth play Q and SLU (2 losses), Yale plays Q, us and 'gate (2-3 losses), 'gate plays our schedule, and we have the tie-breaker with Clarkson, even if it's 3 way with Yale.

Now all we have to do is win 4 in a row. That's easy, isn't it?

I didn't figure in any ties.

Jim Hyla
Now all we have to do is win 4 in a row. That's easy, isn't it?

How 'bout twelve?

Jim Hyla
I haven't done all the possibilities, but so far, if we win out , as does Q and SLU, and Yale beats 'gate, I get us finishing third.

If we finish fourth, we have to hope one of the 6-12 teams wins in week 2 of the playoffs and they get to be cannon fodder for Quinnipiac Friday in Lake Placid. We played that role last year to Union.

billhoward
If we finish fourth, we have to hope one of the 6-12 teams wins in week 2 of the playoffs and they get to be cannon fodder for Quinnipiac Friday in Lake Placid. We played that role last year to Union.

We still have a lot of work to do just to get a first-round bye. But if we do end up having to play Quinnipiac, we lost twice to them this year by identical 1-0 scores. It's not like they blew us out the way Yale used to in previous years.

As long as we're playing pie-in-the-sky, how about this:

Quinnipiac, Clarkson, and Cornell all win out.
St. Lawrence goes 0-4.
Yale beats Colgate.

This would set up a tie for second at 26 points among Cornell, Clarkson, and possibly Yale. Cornell would take second based on a head-to-head sweep against the other two.

A bye isn't impossible, but we should talk about the path in the likelier scenario that we finish 5th through 8th.

5th and 6th mean playing Princeton or Brown; while they just had a great weekend (7 of 8 points) they seem clearly below Union, who I still think is dangerous in a short series.

7th or 8th means Union or RPI. It's possible that one of them may recover form, so 7th means we play the poorer of the two.

Likewise, each step up means increasing the odds of delaying potentially lethal meetings with Q, SLU and Dartmouth.

tl; dr: Every slot actually matters.

One thing that may help. This will be the first time this season that Cornell plays 3 consecutive opponents unranked in USCHO.

This team hasn't had a 4-point weekend since November. I don't think we have to worry about any byes.

BearLover
This team hasn't had a 4-point weekend since November. I don't think we have to worry about any byes.

Nobody's worrying, but this thread is labeled "possibilities ".

Jim Hyla

BearLover
This team hasn't had a 4-point weekend since November. I don't think we have to worry about any byes.

Nobody's worrying, but this thread is labeled "possibilities ".

It's more fun to dream of unlikely possibilities (like twelve game winning streaks) than to just write off the team as a lousy .500 squad and look forward to November.

4 then anything that allows a 6 game one at the end is excaptable

upprdeck
4 then anything that allows a 6 game one at the end is excaptable

I can live with that!

Trotsky
they seem clearly below Union, who I still think is dangerous in a short series.

Isn't the first round best of three? That's the LONGEST series in college hockey.

TimV

Trotsky
they seem clearly below Union, who I still think is dangerous in a short series.

Isn't the first round best of three? That's the LONGEST series in college hockey.

And for all that, it's still a short series.

4 pt weekends until the ecac final 4 is the first goal..

Trotsky

TimV

Trotsky
they seem clearly below Union, who I still think is dangerous in a short series.

Isn't the first round best of three? That's the LONGEST series in college hockey.

And for all that, it's still a short series.

Come on, short and long are relative, and in college hockey 3 is long!

KeithK

Jim Hyla

BearLover
This team hasn't had a 4-point weekend since November. I don't think we have to worry about any byes.

Nobody's worrying, but this thread is labeled "possibilities ".

It's more fun to dream of unlikely possibilities (like twelve game winning streaks) than to just write off the team as a lousy .500 squad and look forward to November.

I happen to think that we are one of the top .500 squads in the country (seriously).

This is as good a place as any to post Tom Fleischman, who covers Cornell hockey for the Ithaca Journal, will be the guest on the next edition of the "Slap Schotts College Segment" on Rodger Wyland's "Big Board Sportstalk" at 11:05 a.m. on FOX Sports 980 (WOFX-AM).

Roy 82

KeithK

Jim Hyla

BearLover
This team hasn't had a 4-point weekend since November. I don't think we have to worry about any byes.

Nobody's worrying, but this thread is labeled "possibilities ".

It's more fun to dream of unlikely possibilities (like twelve game winning streaks) than to just write off the team as a lousy .500 squad and look forward to November.

I happen to think that we are one of the top .500 squads in the country (seriously).

We are the absolute best .480 squad in the country. By any measure you care to come up with.

upprdeck
4 pt weekends until the ecac final 4 is the first goal..

"The destination is Lake Placid..."

upprdeck
4 pt weekends until the ecac final 4 is the first goal..

And to do that we need to score more than one goal!!

Things got very, very interesting with the North Country results. It seems only Quinnipiac and St. Lawrence are ensured with a BYE at this point.

cornell win tomorrow and there are results that makes 4th place totally up for grabs next weekend. RPI winning tomorrow would help, but STL and Quin winning out still looms large.

KeithK

Roy 82

KeithK

Jim Hyla

BearLover
This team hasn't had a 4-point weekend since November. I don't think we have to worry about any byes.

Nobody's worrying, but this thread is labeled "possibilities ".

It's more fun to dream of unlikely possibilities (like twelve game winning streaks) than to just write off the team as a lousy .500 squad and look forward to November.

I happen to think that we are one of the top .500 squads in the country (seriously).

We are the absolute best .480 squad in the country. By any measure you care to come up with.

I think that is the saddest thing I have heard all week.

QU ties Brown despite being down 2-0 in the 3rd and killing off a dubious major call at the end of regulation. Probably the softest boarding major I've ever seen called by any referee actually. They clinch 1st.

St. Lawrence only needs one point next weekend to lock up 2nd place (pretty much assured at this point considering they go to the capital district).

Edit: St. Lawrence has already clinched 2nd. They win the tiebreaker with Yale.

We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.

dont we win a tie breaker with harvard and Colgate? is the first tie broken on head to head so even if they both split and we sweep we would beat them both?

even getting to 5th means princeton round 1 so some value there

TimV
We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.

We don't need to have Colgate lose to either of them, if the tiebreaker is head-to-head.

TimV
We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.

We can even finish 3rd.

BearLover

TimV
We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.

We don't need to have Colgate lose to either of them, if the tiebreaker is head-to-head.

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jtwcornell91

BearLover

TimV
We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.

We don't need to have Colgate lose to either of them, if the tiebreaker is head-to-head.

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So correct me if I'm wrong, but if Q and us win out, we get a bye, right?

BearLover

jtwcornell91

BearLover

TimV
We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.

We don't need to have Colgate lose to either of them, if the tiebreaker is head-to-head.

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So correct me if I'm wrong, but if Q and us win out, we get a bye, right?

I think if Colgate beats Brown and ties Yale, we'd wind up behind both Colgate and Yale.

So we need to sweep, for Q to sweep, and for Colgate and Yale to not tie. That's... actually somewhat doable.

Dafatone

BearLover

jtwcornell91

BearLover

TimV
We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.

We don't need to have Colgate lose to either of them, if the tiebreaker is head-to-head.

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So correct me if I'm wrong, but if Q and us win out, we get a bye, right?

I think if Colgate beats Brown and ties Yale, we'd wind up behind both Colgate and Yale.

So we need to sweep, for Q to sweep, and for Colgate and Yale to not tie. That's... actually somewhat doable.

Ah, yes, didn't consider the tie--good call.

Paging Bill Fenwick...

BearLover

Dafatone

BearLover

jtwcornell91

BearLover

TimV
We can finish fourth. We need to sweep B and Y. Q needs to sweep @D and @H. Col has to lose to Y and B. That's all.

We don't need to have Colgate lose to either of them, if the tiebreaker is head-to-head.

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So correct me if I'm wrong, but if Q and us win out, we get a bye, right?

I think if Colgate beats Brown and ties Yale, we'd wind up behind both Colgate and Yale.

So we need to sweep, for Q to sweep, and for Colgate and Yale to not tie. That's... actually somewhat doable.

Ah, yes, didn't consider the tie--good call.

Quoted just for the bananas.

Our secret weapon: Ben Syer.

If one follows the current KRACH in filling in the winners of the final games, the only "un-KRACH-y" thing that needs to happen for us to end up in 4th is for us to beat Yale.

Of course, that means two nights of 4 road winners and 2 home winners, which seems a bit unlikely to me… but… eh… still… it's oddly comforting. It could happen!

PS Ah-ha! Glad for that postponed Beanpot! Hope BC and Harvard play a long, bruising consie; can always hope for a DQ for Vesey.

Scersk '97
If one follows the current KRACH in filling in the winners of the final games, the only "un-KRACH-y" thing that needs to happen for us to end up in 4th is for us to beat Yale.

Of course, that means two nights of 4 road winners and 2 home winners, which seems a bit unlikely to me… but… eh… still… it's oddly comforting. It could happen!

PS Ah-ha! Glad for that postponed Beanpot! Hope BC and Harvard play a long, bruising consie; can always hope for a DQ for Vesey.

I was going to suggest using KASA but it looks like the CHN page isn't there, and I don't think I ever got around to adding it to my geek scripts although I do now have gone and away data.

jtwcornell91
Paging Bill Fenwick...

Here you go, have at it...
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