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Men's Preseason

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Men's Preseason
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: July 23, 2012 08:26AM

Hopefully the first of many preseason articles. This one by INCH on Bardreau.

 
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/03/2012 07:19AM by Jim Hyla.
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: October 01, 2012 08:01AM

Ok, so a "nice" way to get my preseason thread back up top. After all, it's the preseason, not off season.:-D

Anyway, Iles picked as goalie #3 in USCHO's list of 10 to watch.

 
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: nyc94 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: October 01, 2012 04:16PM

First USCHO Poll

1	Boston College	(35)	33-10-1	 972
2	Minnesota	(12)	28-14-1	 937
3	Michigan	( 3)	24-13-4	 857
4	North Dakota		26-13-3	 826
5	Union		        26- 8-7	 789
6	Cornell		        19- 9-7	 631
7	Massachusetts-Lowell	24-13-1	 599
8	Denver		        25-14-4	 566
9	Miami		        24-15-2	 553
10	Western Michigan	21-14-6	 516
11	Ferris State		26-12-5	 472
12	Minnesota-Duluth	25-10-6	 460
13	Boston University	23-15-1	 413
14	Notre Dame		19-18-3	 395
15	Maine		        23-14-3	 234
16	Michigan State		19-16-4	 219
17	Harvard		        13-10-11 213
18	Wisconsin		17-18-2	 202
19	Air Force		21-11-7	 116
20	Colorado College	18-16-2	 81

Others receiving votes: New Hampshire 78, St. Cloud State 78, Quinnipiac 64, Ohio State 54, Merrimack 43, Nebraska-Omaha 31, Northern Michigan 25, Massachusetts 13, Lake Superior 12, Northeastern 11, Providence 8, Rochester Institute of Technology 6, Yale 6, Michigan Tech 5, Rensselaer 5, Mercyhurst 2, Minnesota State 2, Niagara 2, Colgate 1, St. Lawrence 1.
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: ajh258 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 02, 2012 01:11AM

Glad we're that high on the polls, but are they overrating us? I mean we're good but are we THAT good? Just curious
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: October 02, 2012 07:17AM

Ken Schott's preseason report on Union.

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: Robb (---.tx.res.rr.com)
Date: October 02, 2012 08:22AM

ajh258
Glad we're that high on the polls, but are they overrating us? I mean we're good but are we THAT good? Just curious
We nearly won the Cleary, were within a gnat's whisker of the Frozen Four last year, didn't lose too much, and we get Ferlin back - I don't think it's unreasonable to at least *hope* that we are that good.
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: October 02, 2012 03:30PM

It is really weird thinking about those teams in terms of the new conferences...
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: css228 (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: October 02, 2012 05:22PM

ajh258
Glad we're that high on the polls, but are they overrating us? I mean we're good but are we THAT good? Just curious
We did make a regional final last year without our star freshamn forward, or healthy contributions from Espo, and didn't really lose much. So I'd incline toward yes.
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: October 03, 2012 12:30AM

TBRW Predictions

1. Union
2. Harvard
3. Cornell
4. Quinnipiac
5. RPI
6. St. Lawrence
7. Yale
8. Colgate
9. Princeton
10. Dartmouth
11. Clarkson
12. Brown
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: October 03, 2012 06:59AM

Trotsky
TBRW Predictions

1. Union
2. Harvard
3. Cornell
4. Quinnipiac
5. RPI
6. St. Lawrence
7. Yale
8. Colgate
9. Princeton
10. Dartmouth
11. Clarkson
12. Brown

My concern is the weighting of post-season upsets. When you give both + and -, then a loss, like we had to Harvard, gets double value. In fact that one game, as important as it was, is the only reason they are 2 and we are 3. I know it's meaningless, but have you ever run a variety of weightings thru and seen how the actually compare to the end result?

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: October 03, 2012 02:28PM

Jim Hyla
Trotsky
TBRW Predictions

1. Union
2. Harvard
3. Cornell
4. Quinnipiac
5. RPI
6. St. Lawrence
7. Yale
8. Colgate
9. Princeton
10. Dartmouth
11. Clarkson
12. Brown

My concern is the weighting of post-season upsets. When you give both + and -, then a loss, like we had to Harvard, gets double value. In fact that one game, as important as it was, is the only reason they are 2 and we are 3. I know it's meaningless, but have you ever run a variety of weightings thru and seen how the actually compare to the end result?

I've been meaning to actually do real correlation measures on the various factors... since about 1989.
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: October 03, 2012 02:29PM

Was Harvard the ECAC #2 to our #3 before or after the academic integrity flap hit? If they have to go to class and also study, that's going to cut into practice time. This is uncharted territory in Cambridge.
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: October 03, 2012 05:24PM

Trotsky
Jim Hyla
Trotsky
TBRW Predictions

1. Union
2. Harvard
3. Cornell
4. Quinnipiac
5. RPI
6. St. Lawrence
7. Yale
8. Colgate
9. Princeton
10. Dartmouth
11. Clarkson
12. Brown

My concern is the weighting of post-season upsets. When you give both + and -, then a loss, like we had to Harvard, gets double value. In fact that one game, as important as it was, is the only reason they are 2 and we are 3. I know it's meaningless, but have you ever run a variety of weightings thru and seen how the actually compare to the end result?

I've been meaning to actually do real correlation measures on the various factors... since about 1989.

Well then...deadhorse

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: October 04, 2012 06:57AM

USCHO on 6 sophomore coaches, including Casey.

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: Redscore (217.196.249.---)
Date: October 04, 2012 09:45PM

Uscho has run out of things to talk about. What next, the best non paid but not really full time and not really paid assistant, associate, teaching, coaching, semi-coaches? Loserville here we comme.
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: October 04, 2012 09:53PM

Redscore
Uscho has run out of things to talk about. What next, the best non paid but not really full time and not really paid assistant, associate, teaching, coaching, semi-coaches? Loserville here we comme.

Best Zamboni resurfacing device driver?
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: jtn27 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 04, 2012 09:54PM

marty
Redscore
Uscho has run out of things to talk about. What next, the best non paid but not really full time and not really paid assistant, associate, teaching, coaching, semi-coaches? Loserville here we comme.

Best Zamboni resurfacing device driver?

Zamboni Dave has that one locked up.

 
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Re: Preseason
Posted by: RatushnyFan (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 05, 2012 01:35PM

Trotsky
I've been meaning to actually do real correlation measures on the various factors... since about 1989.
Harvard's national championship inspired you? wtf
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: October 05, 2012 01:59PM

RatushnyFan
Trotsky
I've been meaning to actually do real correlation measures on the various factors... since about 1989.
Harvard's national championship inspired you? wtf
Coincidence. (But TBRW is actually since 1987-88, so I've been dragging my heels since November 1987).
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: Aaron M. Griffin (---.altnpa.east.verizon.net)
Date: October 06, 2012 09:42AM

Considering Maine, Merrimack, Quinnipiac, and Union will begin play this evening, I thought I would share this link from the middle of the week.

 
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2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009 Ithaca 6-3
02/19/2010 Cambridge 3-0
03/12/2010 Ithaca 5-1
03/13/2010 Ithaca 3-0
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 06, 2012 11:14AM

Announcement of the Red/White game.

It's almost here.banana

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: dbilmes (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: October 07, 2012 12:37PM

Quinnipiac has a transfer from Bowling Green, Jordan Samuels-Thomas, who led BG in scoring his first two seasons. He sat out last year after transferring and scored the GWG late in the third period against Maine last night. Apparently, both coaches had agreed to play 4-on-4 OT if it had come down to that! My guess is Schafer isn't going to want to play 4-on-4 in OT in non-league games when both coaches have to agree to do so.
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: nyc94 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: October 08, 2012 05:51PM

New USCHO poll: Cornell moves up one to 5. Union falls to 10 after losing to Merrimack. Quinnipiac enters poll at 18 after defeating Maine.

[www.uscho.com]
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: October 08, 2012 09:06PM

nyc94
New USCHO poll: Cornell moves up one to 5. Union falls to 10 after losing to Merrimack. Quinnipiac enters poll at 18 after defeating Maine.

[www.uscho.com]

The poll at this link.

05 Cornell
10 Union
17 Harvard
18 Quinnipiac
33 RPI
34 Yale

Cornell in the top 5 for the first time since Feb 1, 2010.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/08/2012 09:11PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: bnr24 (---.altnpa.east.verizon.net)
Date: October 09, 2012 11:49AM

Anyone up for a laugh?

[www.timesunion.com]

Here is my favorite excerpt:


Messa Rink is small, 37 years old and, for most fans, without chair-backs and cup-holders, let alone high-def replay monitors and waiter service.
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: October 09, 2012 01:11PM

bnr24
Anyone up for a laugh?

[www.timesunion.com]

Here is my favorite excerpt:


Messa Rink is small, 37 years old and, for most fans, without chair-backs and cup-holders, let alone high-def replay monitors and waiter service.

Maybe before they build a new rink they should work on this one. According to Ken Schott:


Disappointing ceremony

If you were at Messa Rink for the unfurling of the four banners from the 2011-12 season, did you think it was exciting?

To me, it was disappointing. The two spotlights barely showed the unfurling of the ECACH tournament and NCAA tournament championship banners. And, at least from my vantage point from the press box across the rink, we never saw the ECACH Cleary Cup and NCAA Frozen Four banners come down.

Union has the same problem last year. Next time, I hope they keep the lights on so fans can see what’s going on.

Maybe they're not planning on a next time.:-D

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: RichH (---.northropgrumman.com)
Date: October 09, 2012 05:13PM

Jim Hyla
bnr24
Anyone up for a laugh?

[www.timesunion.com]

Here is my favorite excerpt:


Messa Rink is small, 37 years old and, for most fans, without chair-backs and cup-holders, let alone high-def replay monitors and waiter service.

Maybe before they build a new rink they should work on this one. According to Ken Schott:


Disappointing ceremony

If you were at Messa Rink for the unfurling of the four banners from the 2011-12 season, did you think it was exciting?

To me, it was disappointing. The two spotlights barely showed the unfurling of the ECACH tournament and NCAA tournament championship banners. And, at least from my vantage point from the press box across the rink, we never saw the ECACH Cleary Cup and NCAA Frozen Four banners come down.

Union has the same problem last year. Next time, I hope they keep the lights on so fans can see what’s going on.

Maybe they're not planning on a next time.:-D

I guess my only problem with Union hoisting four banners is the redundancy of having separate "NCAA Regional Champion" and "Frozen Four" banners.

Edit: My mistake. It seems one lists the NCAA Tournament appearances, and the other is a Frozen Four banner. This is the only time I've ever seen the word "Whitelaw" on any banner in the league. I wonder now if the other says "Cleary Cup" barf


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/09/2012 05:23PM by RichH.

 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: October 09, 2012 06:02PM

nyc94
New USCHO poll: Cornell moves up one to 5. Union falls to 10 after losing to Merrimack. Quinnipiac enters poll at 18 after defeating Maine.

[www.uscho.com]

At this rate, maybe we should cancel all our scheduled games. If not losing (or playing) one game moves us up from #6 to #5, imagine where we'd be if we didn't play twenty or so games! woot
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: October 09, 2012 06:10PM

Swampy
nyc94
New USCHO poll: Cornell moves up one to 5. Union falls to 10 after losing to Merrimack. Quinnipiac enters poll at 18 after defeating Maine.

[www.uscho.com]

At this rate, maybe we should cancel all our scheduled games. If not losing (or playing) one game moves us up from #6 to #5, imagine where we'd be if we didn't play twenty or so games! woot
Works almost as well as lacrosse, where you can schedule top teams, lose to them, and get a higher NCAA seeding.screwy

 
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Re: Preseason
Posted by: jtn27 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 09, 2012 08:43PM

RichH

I guess my only problem with Union hoisting four banners is the redundancy of having separate "NCAA Regional Champion" and "Frozen Four" banners.

We should have Frozen Four Banners in addition to the NCAA Tournament (appearance) and National Champion banners.

 
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Class of 2013
 
Re: Preseason
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: October 09, 2012 09:45PM

jtn27
RichH

I guess my only problem with Union hoisting four banners is the redundancy of having separate "NCAA Regional Champion" and "Frozen Four" banners.

We should have Frozen Four Banners in addition to the NCAA Tournament (appearance) and National Champion banners.

When we started the banners, NCAA Tournament Appearance banners were Frozen Four banners.
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: rdez79 (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: October 10, 2012 12:06AM

This may have been covered in the off season, but roster only lists AI and Kanji for netminders
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: pfibiger (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: October 10, 2012 08:56AM

It was covered in the offseason :) About halfway down the page on this thread:

[elf.elynah.com]

Marozzi left and is playing pro hockey in Italy. We're not bringing in Mitch Gillam a year early, and we'll be going with two goalies.

 
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[www.fibiger.org]
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: css228 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 10, 2012 10:36AM

pfibiger
It was covered in the offseason :) About halfway down the page on this thread:

[elf.elynah.com]

Marozzi left and is playing pro hockey in Italy. We're not bringing in Mitch Gillam a year early, and we'll be going with two goalies.
Which brings me to the point that as optimistic as I am about this season, it could all go very wrong, very quickly.
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: TheMatrix (---.ccmr.cornell.edu)
Date: October 11, 2012 11:20AM

Interesting series of tweets from Brandon Thomas yesterday:
Edit:

No relation to John Esposito, it seems.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2012 02:09PM by TheMatrix.
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: Weder (---.atlanta.hp.com)
Date: October 11, 2012 02:12PM

TheMatrix
Interesting series of tweets from Brandon Thomas yesterday:
Edit:

No relation to John Esposito, it seems.

Hey, golf and hockey is a natural fit.
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: RatushnyFan (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 11, 2012 04:40PM

Being 6'4" and 220 pounds is a good fit, too.
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: October 11, 2012 04:45PM

Weder
Hey, golf and hockey is a natural fit.

Wild to have a Bobcat on the team!
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: Aaron M. Griffin (---.altnpa.east.verizon.net)
Date: October 11, 2012 10:20PM


Other than the misspelling of Iles's name and the incorrect ranking as of filming, the coverage is generally good and it provides some insight from the team.

 
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2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009 Ithaca 6-3
02/19/2010 Cambridge 3-0
03/12/2010 Ithaca 5-1
03/13/2010 Ithaca 3-0
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: October 11, 2012 10:41PM

Weder
Hey, golf and hockey is a natural fit.
I would make a Rangers joke here, but as an Islander fan, um, carry on.
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: October 12, 2012 07:25AM

So both CHN and USCHO have the same top 4 in their ECAC picks.

1 Union
2 Harvard
3 Cornell
4 Quinnipiac

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: Jordan 04 (155.72.28.---)
Date: October 12, 2012 08:44AM

Trotsky
Weder
Hey, golf and hockey is a natural fit.
I would make a Rangers joke here, but as an Islander fan, um, carry on.

They're all golfing right now for a while.
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 14, 2012 10:31AM

Red-White

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: profudge (---.hmpt.ny.frontiernet.net)
Date: October 14, 2012 10:56AM

Very enjoyable Red and White game! small crowd, but the pep band was loud and enthusiastic!
Hard to tell in this scrimage but I was impressed with several of the first year players, and look forward to next weekend for an enjoyable first look at the team!

 
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Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: French Rage (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: October 14, 2012 01:22PM

Were there no threads on the ticket line this year? I guess with a lottery there's less to talk about.

 
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03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: October 18, 2012 06:59PM

Summary of pre-season predictions here. If anybody knows of others, please post them.
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: snert1288 (129.49.122.---)
Date: October 19, 2012 01:11PM

Trotsky
Summary of pre-season predictions here. If anybody knows of others, please post them.
INCH came out with their ECAC Preview yesterday. Big Red is sitting on top!
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: October 22, 2012 03:28AM

snert1288
Trotsky
Summary of pre-season predictions here. If anybody knows of others, please post them.
INCH came out with their ECAC Preview yesterday. Big Red is sitting on top!

One of the last things they ever did.

[insidecollegehockey.com]
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: Jordan 04 (155.72.28.---)
Date: October 22, 2012 08:24AM

RichH
snert1288
Trotsky
Summary of pre-season predictions here. If anybody knows of others, please post them.
INCH came out with their ECAC Preview yesterday. Big Red is sitting on top!

One of the last things they ever did.

[insidecollegehockey.com]

Did not realize they were "and ESPN Associate", whatever that means. Guess that wasn't enough to keep them going?
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: October 22, 2012 08:39AM

RichH
snert1288
Trotsky
Summary of pre-season predictions here. If anybody knows of others, please post them.
INCH came out with their ECAC Preview yesterday. Big Red is sitting on top!

One of the last things they ever did.

[insidecollegehockey.com]
Very unfortunate. Most iconoclastic and insightful college hockey web site.:-/

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: Men's Preseason
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: October 22, 2012 11:40AM

Jordan 04
RichH
snert1288
Trotsky
Summary of pre-season predictions here. If anybody knows of others, please post them.
INCH came out with their ECAC Preview yesterday. Big Red is sitting on top!

One of the last things they ever did.

[insidecollegehockey.com]

Did not realize they were "and ESPN Associate", whatever that means. Guess that wasn't enough to keep them going?

That "ESPN Associate" graphic has been there for a long time...within the first few years of INCH's existence. My guess is that it meant that ESPN could cherry-pick INCH articles for their website in exchange for "legitimacy" by displaying ESPN's logo. Around tournament time there were a good number of INCH pieces on ESPN.com's college hockey section. Maybe there was an amount of cash involved as well; I don't want to speculate either way.
 

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