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Union takes a 1-0 lead over Michigan State on a Max Novak goal, at the tail end of a 5-min. major. (Chelios got the 5 and the game for hitting from behind.) 4:51 remaining in the first.

With 1:18 left in the first, Michigan State has a puck in the net, but after a long video review, the refs declare that the net had conclusively already been dislodged. No goal.

Beeeej
With 1:18 left in the first, Michigan State has a puck in the net, but after a long video review, the refs declare that the net had conclusively already been dislodged. No goal.

Union caught a break there. I thought that was a goal.

1-0 Union at the first intermission.

jtn27

Beeeej
With 1:18 left in the first, Michigan State has a puck in the net, but after a long video review, the refs declare that the net had conclusively already been dislodged. No goal.

Union caught a break there. I thought that was a goal.

The net was barely dislodged, maybe an inch off the ice. I thought they might call high stick on the shot.

jtn27

Beeeej
With 1:18 left in the first, Michigan State has a puck in the net, but after a long video review, the refs declare that the net had conclusively already been dislodged. No goal.

Union caught a break there. I thought that was a goal.

My opinion was that the puck definitely went in, the net was definitely not dislodged, but I'm not sure you could conclusively say the stick wasn't high. Of course that wasn't the rationale the official used, but I didn't see an angle were you could tell definitively whether the stick was too high or not, so in my opinion the call on the ice had to stand. If it was called a goal on the ice, I would say that should stand too. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone produces a still picture showing it wasn't high at some point, just saying I personally didn't see an angle where I could tell definitively.

Melrose has already called the Union goalie "Grossman" and said that Western Michigan was playing.

Who wants to sign the RPItv for NCAA tournament petition?

nyc94

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Beeeej
With 1:18 left in the first, Michigan State has a puck in the net, but after a long video review, the refs declare that the net had conclusively already been dislodged. No goal.

Union caught a break there. I thought that was a goal.

The net was barely dislodged, maybe an inch off the ice. I thought they might call high stick on the shot.

I think that this has to do with longitude. If the game were a little further west, say on the eastern edge of Lake Erie then it would have been a high stick.

marty

nyc94

jtn27

Beeeej
With 1:18 left in the first, Michigan State has a puck in the net, but after a long video review, the refs declare that the net had conclusively already been dislodged. No goal.

Union caught a break there. I thought that was a goal.

The net was barely dislodged, maybe an inch off the ice. I thought they might call high stick on the shot.

I think that this has to do with longitude. If the game were a little further west, say on the eastern edge of Lake Erie then it would have been a high stick.

Oh, just don't go there!

Union now up 2-0!

Welsh makes it 2-0 Union on a rebound. 16:40 remaining in the second.

Does anyone here know if Chelios had a game misconduct or a game disqualification?

marty
Does anyone here know if Chelios had a game misconduct or a game disqualification?

I heard misconduct, so he'd be available to play tomorrow if Michigan State advances.

Michigan State makes it 2-1 Union with about 39 seconds left in the second, on a power play.

MSU just cut it to 2-1 with less than a minute in the 2nd -- right after Union blew a 3 on 0 break.

Second intermission, Union up 2-1.

And a mention of Joe Nieuwendyk and Cornell. While discussing lacrosse Melrose states that Nieuwendyk went to Cornell because he wanted to play lacrosse.

snert1288
And a mention of Joe Nieuwendyk and Cornell. While discussing lacrosse Melrose states that Nieuwendyk went to Cornell because he wanted to play lacrosse.

I was just about to mention this. Does anyone know if it's true? Did Nieuwendyk play lax for Cornell?

I don't know what his intentions were, but I'm fairly certain he never played lacrosse for Cornell.

snert1288
I don't know what his intentions were, but I'm fairly certain he never played lacrosse for Cornell.

Wikipedia never lies.

I'll hunt for independent verification. But I've also heard that his intention was to play lacrosse more than hockey.

Edit: I trust this more than Wikipedia. Looks like he had intended to play both, but learned he had to commit full time to hockey when he arrived at Cornell.

A Lowell newspaper reporter was interviewed by Union's broadcaster between the 2nd and 3rd. He mentioned that the word is that Hockey East is courting UConn as the 12th team for 2012-13.

That's good if it means RPI stays put.

JasonN95
That's good if it means RPI stays put.

His second point was that UConn might not want to make the commitment.

After being on their heels apparently for much of the third, Union gets a goal with under 2 minutes to play to make it 3-1 in their favor.

Have a good time golfing, State.

Congrats to Union with the 3-1 win.

Geez, watching the Denver-Ferris St. game -- I think AC had more fannies in the seats.

scoop85
Geez, watching the Denver-Ferris St. game -- I think AC had more fannies in the seats.

We gripe about maybe having to drive 5 hours to see an ECAC hockey tournament game and in the NCAA regionals you've got a 50-50 chance it's within driving distance. For CCHA and WCHA teams, unless the regional is your home state, you've got to find a flight on 4-5 days advance notice or do a lot of driving. Give credit to the fans who did show up. But yeah it looked empty. And there were also seats to be had at the NCAA Sweet Sixteen basketball games.

[edit add] ESPN zoomed in and showed the area behind the Ferris State goal late in the first (0-0 after 1). Nobody home. Bridgeport and AC in comparison looked like the fire marshall was waiting in the wings. At least a lot of the Green Bay seats are red already so if Cornell fans spread out ...

Luke 05
Melrose has already called the Union goalie "Grossman" and said that Western Michigan was playing. Who wants to sign the RPItv for NCAA tournament petition?

Take Famous Jewish Athletes for Forty, Barry

billhoward

Luke 05
Melrose has already called the Union goalie "Grossman" and said that Western Michigan was playing. Who wants to sign the RPItv for NCAA tournament petition?

Take Famous Jewish Athletes for Forty, Barry

jtn27

snert1288
And a mention of Joe Nieuwendyk and Cornell. While discussing lacrosse Melrose states that Nieuwendyk went to Cornell because he wanted to play lacrosse.

I was just about to mention this. Does anyone know if it's true? Did Nieuwendyk play lax for Cornell?

He was considered a better lax player than hockey player when he was in high school.

Is it my imagination or are the Mass Lowell uniforms almost as ugly as Clarkson's crayola boxes?

nyc94

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Beeeej
With 1:18 left in the first, Michigan State has a puck in the net, but after a long video review, the refs declare that the net had conclusively already been dislodged. No goal.

Union caught a break there. I thought that was a goal.

The net was barely dislodged, maybe an inch off the ice. I thought they might call high stick on the shot.

Agreed, I'm not sure if the rules pecify exactly what counts as dislodged, but that didn't seem it to me. If there ws nay reason to call it off it should have been a high stick.

I'm pretty sure Union winning an NCAA Tournament game is a sign of the impending apocalypse.

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nyc94

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Beeeej
With 1:18 left in the first, Michigan State has a puck in the net, but after a long video review, the refs declare that the net had conclusively already been dislodged. No goal.

Union caught a break there. I thought that was a goal.

The net was barely dislodged, maybe an inch off the ice. I thought they might call high stick on the shot.

Agreed, I'm not sure if the rules pecify exactly what counts as dislodged, but that didn't seem it to me. If there ws nay reason to call it off it should have been a high stick.

The CHN Twitter feed retweeted someone saying that any movement of the goal off the moorings means a goal is disallowed. Therefore, by the letter of the rule, the correct call was made. Rule 6, section 18 c:

A goal shall not be allowed in any of the following cases:
12. If the goal cage has been moved or dislodged. The goal frame is considered to be displaced if any portion of the goal frame is not in its proper position (e.g., frame must be completely flat on the ice surface, goal posts must be in proper place and affixed securely in place with its pegs).

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Beeeej
With 1:18 left in the first, Michigan State has a puck in the net, but after a long video review, the refs declare that the net had conclusively already been dislodged. No goal.

Union caught a break there. I thought that was a goal.

The net was barely dislodged, maybe an inch off the ice. I thought they might call high stick on the shot.

Agreed, I'm not sure if the rules pecify exactly what counts as dislodged, but that didn't seem it to me. If there ws nay reason to call it off it should have been a high stick.

The CHN Twitter feed retweeted someone saying that any movement of the goal off the moorings means a goal is disallowed. Therefore, by the letter of the rule, the correct call was made. Rule 6, section 18 c:

A goal shall not be allowed in any of the following cases:
12. If the goal cage has been moved or dislodged. The goal frame is considered to be displaced if any portion of the goal frame is not in its proper position (e.g., frame must be completely flat on the ice surface, goal posts must be in proper place and affixed securely in place with its pegs).

Yeah, but that leaves it open to all sorts of gamesmanship, aka the Osgood

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nyc94

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Beeeej
With 1:18 left in the first, Michigan State has a puck in the net, but after a long video review, the refs declare that the net had conclusively already been dislodged. No goal.

Union caught a break there. I thought that was a goal.

The net was barely dislodged, maybe an inch off the ice. I thought they might call high stick on the shot.

Agreed, I'm not sure if the rules pecify exactly what counts as dislodged, but that didn't seem it to me. If there ws nay reason to call it off it should have been a high stick.

The CHN Twitter feed retweeted someone saying that any movement of the goal off the moorings means a goal is disallowed. Therefore, by the letter of the rule, the correct call was made. Rule 6, section 18 c:

A goal shall not be allowed in any of the following cases:
12. If the goal cage has been moved or dislodged. The goal frame is considered to be displaced if any portion of the goal frame is not in its proper position (e.g., frame must be completely flat on the ice surface, goal posts must be in proper place and affixed securely in place with its pegs).

Yeah, but that leaves it open to all sorts of gamesmanship, aka the Osgood

The officials could call a "delay of game" penalty (or something similar) at their discretion if they think it's on purpose, I bet.

RichH

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nyc94

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Beeeej
With 1:18 left in the first, Michigan State has a puck in the net, but after a long video review, the refs declare that the net had conclusively already been dislodged. No goal.

Union caught a break there. I thought that was a goal.

The net was barely dislodged, maybe an inch off the ice. I thought they might call high stick on the shot.

Agreed, I'm not sure if the rules pecify exactly what counts as dislodged, but that didn't seem it to me. If there ws nay reason to call it off it should have been a high stick.

The CHN Twitter feed retweeted someone saying that any movement of the goal off the moorings means a goal is disallowed. Therefore, by the letter of the rule, the correct call was made. Rule 6, section 18 c:

A goal shall not be allowed in any of the following cases:
12. If the goal cage has been moved or dislodged. The goal frame is considered to be displaced if any portion of the goal frame is not in its proper position (e.g., frame must be completely flat on the ice surface, goal posts must be in proper place and affixed securely in place with its pegs).

Yeah, but that leaves it open to all sorts of gamesmanship, aka the Osgood

The officials could call a "delay of game" penalty (or something similar) at their discretion if they think it's on purpose, I bet.

True, but they should also have the discretion to allow a goal in that case. Either way, I don't know why I'm complaining since I thought it was a high stick.

Josh '99
I'm pretty sure Union winning an NCAA Tournament game is a sign of the impending apocalypse.

IIRC they won a D3 title. I wonder how many teams have won NCAA games at multiple levels. (Bemidji is another.)

Josh '99
I'm pretty sure Union winning an NCAA Tournament game is a sign of the impending apocalypse.

What's next, Ferris and Lowell winning?

Trotsky

Josh '99
I'm pretty sure Union winning an NCAA Tournament game is a sign of the impending apocalypse.

IIRC they won a D3 title. I wonder how many teams have won NCAA games at multiple levels. (Bemidji is another.)

And RIT.

Trotsky

Josh '99
I'm pretty sure Union winning an NCAA Tournament game is a sign of the impending apocalypse.

IIRC they won a D3 title. I wonder how many teams have won NCAA games at multiple levels. (Bemidji is another.)

I was checking out their hardware two weeks ago and saw a second place trophy but not the championship.

Miami was down 3-0. Now 3-3 with 10 minutes to go! Great game...

releck97
Miami was down 3-0. Now 3-3 with 10 minutes to go! Great game...

Except the part about it pre-empting Cornell.

Vermont - is another -

jtwcornell91

Trotsky

Josh '99
I'm pretty sure Union winning an NCAA Tournament game is a sign of the impending apocalypse.

IIRC they won a D3 title. I wonder how many teams have won NCAA games at multiple levels. (Bemidji is another.)

And RIT.

Probably St. Cloud, too. Mankato? UNO?

Greenberg '97

releck97
Miami was down 3-0. Now 3-3 with 10 minutes to go! Great game...

Except the part about it pre-empting Cornell.

Let's hope there's no OT..egad

Lowell defense looks like in a stupor.

profudge
Vermont - is another -

Yep. They won in D2 back when there *was* a hockey D2.

marty

Trotsky

Josh '99
I'm pretty sure Union winning an NCAA Tournament game is a sign of the impending apocalypse.

IIRC they won a D3 title. I wonder how many teams have won NCAA games at multiple levels. (Bemidji is another.)

I was checking out their hardware two weeks ago and saw a second place trophy but not the championship.

And I just checked online and could not find a Union Div III championship but rather a second place finish in 1984 or 1986 depending on the source. It looks as if Plattsburgh had their second place finish vacated in 1986 and perhaps Union was third that year in the tournament.

I'm not sure if I believe my eyes, but is that Kotyra in the UWM-UND game?

ajh258
I'm not sure if I believe my eyes, but is that Kotyra in the UWM-UND game?

Box says Kotyra: Western Mich—NoDak Box

Looks like the officials got marching orders to look for and call hits to the head as 5 min majors + Game Misconducts. Another just happened in the BU-Minn game.

Huge stick save by Groesnick

And Union goes up 2-0.

I'm just really impressed by that team. Reminds me of 2005 for us: great goaltending, stifling defense, and opportunistic scoring.

Union up 3-1 now over Lowell

Union looks confident and to be the better team. Representing the ECAC nicely through 5 periods. Here's hoping they can do so for at least 6.

Lowell scores to make it 3-2 on a very weird play where a Union player lost the puck going behind his net and it went right to a Lowell player who basically had a free shot since the goalie wasn't even looking in the right direction. If Lowell wins this game they can thank two really lucky goals.

Grosenick (sp?), the Union goalie, stood on his freaking head in the game today. Wow. Congrats to Union on making it to Tampa.

LGR!

JasonN95
Union looks confident and to be the better team. Representing the ECAC nicely through 5 periods. Here's hoping they can do so for at least 6 12.

FYP

Good Luck Union! Now the Faithful are rooting for you.

Kyle Rose
Grosenick (sp?), the Union goalie, stood on his freaking head in the game today. Wow.

The save he made where he turned himself inside out, missed with the glove, then tipped the puck out from the goal a millisecond before it broke the plane, all while bent at an angle that would kill most humans, was jaw-dropping.

Trotsky

Kyle Rose
Grosenick (sp?), the Union goalie, stood on his freaking head in the game today. Wow.

The save he made where he turned himself inside out, missed with the glove, then tipped the puck out from the goal a millisecond before it broke the plane, all while bent at an angle that would kill most humans, was jaw-dropping.[/quote

And when they replayed it, they showed a similar juggling act that he performed earlier in the game. Good video can make it much more enjoyable to watch someone like Grosenick. I saw him 6 times this year but never saw that wonderful slow motion acrobatics.

Here's another reason to root for Union. Grosenick has been so impressive on the biggest stage in college hockey that if he repeats the feat he's a flight risk. After all, if he wins the national championship, athletically there is nothing more to strive for at this level.

Trotsky
Here's another reason to root for Union. Grosenick has been so impressive on the biggest stage in college hockey that if he repeats the feat he's a flight risk. After all, if he wins the national championship, athletically there is nothing more to strive for at this level.

He's an undrafted sophomore, so there's no pro team pressuring him to abandon school to get experience at a higher level. I think a bigger flight risk for them is Welsh, who's starting to get a lot of press. Given that they are only losing two impact players (Zajac and Julseth-White) to graduation, this is a team that will remain mostly in tact for next season. Zajac is the only senior in their top 15 in scoring. I can't see any outcome in Tampa that won't result in them all saying "let's come back next year and do it (again)."

Of course, that's what UVM said after their 1996 FF appearance, and by most metrics had a disappointing Senior campaign for St. Louis, Perrin, and Thomas. Darn it all.

RichH
I can't see any outcome in Tampa that won't result in them all saying "let's come back next year and do it (again)."

I can dream.

Another thing is that if you were recruited to the Union hockey team a few years ago the odds are good that what you really wanted to do was play hockey at Union. Not only are they a tiny school with tremendous esprit de corps, but nobody is going into there thinking about two and screw the way they would at a factory program.

What's wrong with having a strong Union in the ECAC? All we do is complain that weak in conference opponents hurt RPI/KRACH/PWR, and now we have an opportunity to have two nationally recognized teams. I hope they all stay and the ECAC builds on the success of Union/Cornell this spring.

Luke 05
What's wrong with having a strong Union in the ECAC? All we do is complain that weak in conference opponents hurt RPI/KRACH/PWR, and now we have an opportunity to have two nationally recognized teams. I hope they all stay and the ECAC builds on the success of Union/Cornell this spring.

+1 is not enough. QFT.

Kyle Rose

Luke 05
What's wrong with having a strong Union in the ECAC? All we do is complain that weak in conference opponents hurt RPI/KRACH/PWR, and now we have an opportunity to have two nationally recognized teams. I hope they all stay and the ECAC builds on the success of Union/Cornell this spring.

+1 is not enough. QFT.

But I don't wanna have anyone in the ECAC be more successful than us!</whine>

KeithK

Kyle Rose

Luke 05
What's wrong with having a strong Union in the ECAC? All we do is complain that weak in conference opponents hurt RPI/KRACH/PWR, and now we have an opportunity to have two nationally recognized teams. I hope they all stay and the ECAC builds on the success of Union/Cornell this spring.

+1 is not enough. QFT.

But I don't wanna have anyone in the ECAC be more successful than us!</whine>

You'd rather have teams from a different conference be more successful?

From Yahoo

U.S. Rep. Brad Miller (D-NC)
‘If Duke was playing the Taliban, I’d have to pull for the Taliban’

David Harding
From Yahoo

U.S. Rep. Brad Miller (D-NC)
‘If Duke was playing the Taliban, I’d have to pull for the Taliban’

He can kiss any chance of holding a government position goodbye if he ever changes his mind about retiring (at least I think he's retiring, it said he's not seeking reelection).

David Harding
From Yahoo

U.S. Rep. Brad Miller (D-NC)
‘If Duke was playing the Taliban, I’d have to pull for the Taliban’

But Union to us isn't like Duke to Carolina. It's more like Wake Forest.

Luke 05
What's wrong with having a strong Union in the ECAC? All we do is complain that weak in conference opponents hurt RPI/KRACH/PWR, and now we have an opportunity to have two nationally recognized teams. I hope they all stay and the ECAC builds on the success of Union/Cornell this spring.

It doesn't mean that I want to wish them well in the post-season. I wish them immense luck in the regular season so that when Cornell beats them, Cornell gains all the valuable PWR points.

jtn27

David Harding
From Yahoo

U.S. Rep. Brad Miller (D-NC)
‘If Duke was playing the Taliban, I’d have to pull for the Taliban’

He can kiss any chance of holding a government position goodbye if he ever changes his mind about retiring (at least I think he's retiring, it said he's not seeking reelection).

I think you underestimate where the loyalties in NC lie. This probably would have guaranteed his reelection.

jkahn

David Harding
From Yahoo

U.S. Rep. Brad Miller (D-NC)
‘If Duke was playing the Taliban, I’d have to pull for the Taliban’

But Union to us isn't like Duke to Carolina. It's more like Wake Forest.

Not even that. More like Appalachain State,

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jkahn

David Harding
From Yahoo

U.S. Rep. Brad Miller (D-NC)
‘If Duke was playing the Taliban, I’d have to pull for the Taliban’

But Union to us isn't like Duke to Carolina. It's more like Wake Forest.

Not even that. More like Appalachain State,

What do Cornell and Appalachian State have in common?

Note: I know that we were not regarded as underdogs by such grave odds as Appalachian State-Michigan in football, but I figured I'd use this opportunity to mock Michigan more after I've dealt with a barrage of insults about Cornell since the win.

P.S. The Michigan State fight song infuriates Michigan fans and players alike. I've witnessed it firsthand. Apparently Cornell is "classless" for outwitting Michigan. I guess that the apprentice is still not as good as the master.

Aaron M. Griffin
P.S. The Michigan State fight song infuriates Michigan fans and players alike. I've witnessed it firsthand. Apparently Cornell is "classless" for outwitting Michigan. I guess that the apprentice is still not as good as the master.

Oh, heavens! Classless! Must we now turn in our monocles and top hats before leaving the dinner club? But I've grown quite fond of my ascot.

No, I can think of a lot less classy things that fans do. That's just funny...even funnier since it really got in their craw. Whomever has a problem with it needs to get over themselves. Oh, and the final punctuation to any insults you get? "Scoreboard." And in some cases, "Board Scores."

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Luke 05
What's wrong with having a strong Union in the ECAC? All we do is complain that weak in conference opponents hurt RPI/KRACH/PWR, and now we have an opportunity to have two nationally recognized teams. I hope they all stay and the ECAC builds on the success of Union/Cornell this spring.

+1 is not enough. QFT.

But I don't wanna have anyone in the ECAC be more successful than us!</whine>

You'd rather have teams from a different conference be more successful?

I figure that the /whine tag would prevent a serious response.

RichH
Whomever has a problem with it needs to get over themselves.

Whoever.

Trotsky

RichH
Whomever has a problem with it needs to get over themselves.

Whoever.

You miss irony, and my failing attempt at establishing a meme.

KeithK

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KeithK

Kyle Rose

Luke 05
What's wrong with having a strong Union in the ECAC? All we do is complain that weak in conference opponents hurt RPI/KRACH/PWR, and now we have an opportunity to have two nationally recognized teams. I hope they all stay and the ECAC builds on the success of Union/Cornell this spring.

+1 is not enough. QFT.

But I don't wanna have anyone in the ECAC be more successful than us!</whine>

You'd rather have teams from a different conference be more successful?

I figure that the /whine tag would prevent a serious response.

You think that's a serious response?

RichH

Trotsky

RichH
Whomever has a problem with it needs to get over themselves.

Whoever.

You miss irony, and my failing attempt at establishing a meme.

I appreciate the vote, but I am not Miss Irony:

Trotsky

RichH

Trotsky

RichH
Whomever has a problem with it needs to get over themselves.

Whoever.

You miss irony, and my failing attempt at establishing a meme.

I appreciate the vote, but I am not Miss Irony:

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I hope that photo was taken in Atlantic City.