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Postseason Awards-Men

Posted by Jim Hyla 
Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 08, 2012 10:49AM

Finalists for Best Defensive Defenseman includes Braden Birch.-Biega-Harvard

Finalists for Coach of the Year includes Casey Jones.-Bennett-Union

Finalists for Best Defensive Forward includes Greg Miller. (Thanks to GiveMyRegards)-Zajac-Union

INCH picks Schafer as Coach of the Year, and D'Agostino on All-ECAC.:-)

Finalist for Rookie of the Year includes Brian Ferlin.-Ferlin

Finalist for Dryden Award includes Iles.-Grosenick-Union

Finalist for Player of the Year.-Austin Smith-Colgate

FIRST TEAM ALL-LEAGUE
Forward Alex Killorn, Harvard
Forward Brian O’Neill, Yale
Forward Austin Smith, Colgate
Defense Danny Biega, Harvard
Defense Mat Bodie, Union
Goaltender Troy Grosenick, Union

SECOND TEAM ALL-LEAGUE
Forward Jack Maclellan, Brown
Forward Chris Wagner, Colgate
Forward Jeremy Welsh, Union
Defense Nick D’Agostino, Cornell
Defense Michael Sdao, Princeton
Goaltender Andy Iles, Cornell

THIRD TEAM ALL-LEAGUE
Forward Connor Jones, Quinnipiac
Forward Kyle Flanagan, St. Lawrence
Forward Kelly Zajac, Union
Defense Thomas Larkin, Colgate
Defense Patrick McNally, Harvard
Goaltender Paul Karpowich, Clarkson

ALL-ROOKIE TEAM
Forward Matthew Peca, Quinnipiac
Forward Brian Ferlin, Cornell
Forward Chris Martin, St. Lawrence
Defense Patrick McNally, Harvard
Defense Shayne Gostisbehere, Union
Goaltender Steve Michalek, Harvard

 
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Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: March 08, 2012 12:35PM

Jim Hyla
Finalists for Best Defensive Defenseman includes Birch.

Coach of the Year includes Casey Jones.
That must be Casey's driver's license photo.

I hope he wins. He and Teddy D. are worthy. Don Vaughn, also. Why is the Union coach there? His team was supposed to be good and they're good.
 
Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: CowbellGuy (Moderator)
Date: March 08, 2012 12:49PM

Trotsky
He and Teddy D. are worthy.

Teddy D. is worthy? For squeaking into 3rd place with a team that has 8 NHL-drafted players and more ties than wins?

 
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Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: Robb (192.206.89.---)
Date: March 08, 2012 01:36PM

Trotsky
Jim Hyla
Finalists for Best Defensive Defenseman includes Birch.

Coach of the Year includes Casey Jones.
That must be Casey's driver's license photo.

I hope he wins. He and Teddy D. are worthy. Don Vaughn, also. Why is the Union coach there? His team was supposed to be good and they're good.
If that is the standard, we should take away Schafer's in 2003, then?

I think if a team has runaway outstanding success, that is CoY worthy regardless of expectations. A 32-point regular season and ~10th in PWR doesn't really meet that standard in my book. So then the next thing to look for is marked improvement, so I definitely have no problems with Teddy or Casey - they both made great turnarounds from where it looked like they were heading.
 
Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: jtn27 (---.redrover.cornell.edu)
Date: March 08, 2012 03:15PM

Robb
Trotsky
Jim Hyla
Finalists for Best Defensive Defenseman includes Birch.

Coach of the Year includes Casey Jones.
That must be Casey's driver's license photo.

I hope he wins. He and Teddy D. are worthy. Don Vaughn, also. Why is the Union coach there? His team was supposed to be good and they're good.
If that is the standard, we should take away Schafer's in 2003, then?

I think if a team has runaway outstanding success, that is CoY worthy regardless of expectations. A 32-point regular season and ~10th in PWR doesn't really meet that standard in my book. So then the next thing to look for is marked improvement, so I definitely have no problems with Teddy or Casey - they both made great turnarounds from where it looked like they were heading.

When a team is expected to be good that's because of the coach's ability to recruit. This isn't the pros where a GM assembles a good team and then the coach leads it. The coach is responsible for both assembling a good team and then leading it. It makes sense to consider a coach's ability to recruit when deciding coach of the year.

 
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Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: Give My Regards (---.atc-nycorp.com)
Date: March 08, 2012 04:39PM

Finalists for Best Defensive Forward includes Greg Miller

 
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Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 08, 2012 05:51PM

Give My Regards
Finalists for Best Defensive Forward includes Greg Miller
Why is it that they almost only talk about their offensive performance?

 
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Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: BearLover (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 12:20AM

Miller and Birch have been great this year. Both deserve more credit than they get (especially Birch, who seems to receive no recognition for his always-stellar defensive play).
 
Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 08:06AM

INCH picks Schafer as Coach of the Year, and D'Agostino on All-ECAC.:-)

So who's badmouthing ESPN now?:-D

 
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/09/2012 08:10AM by Jim Hyla.
 
Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: March 09, 2012 09:46AM

Robb
Trotsky
Jim Hyla
Finalists for Best Defensive Defenseman includes Birch.

Coach of the Year includes Casey Jones.
That must be Casey's driver's license photo.

I hope he wins. He and Teddy D. are worthy. Don Vaughn, also. Why is the Union coach there? His team was supposed to be good and they're good.
If that is the standard, we should take away Schafer's in 2003, then?
Getting to #1 in the country is a lot different from backing into the RS title on the last night of the year.

Hopefully it's all moot and Casey wins going away.
 
Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 10, 2012 12:24AM

Finalist for Rookie of the Year includes Brian Ferlin.

 
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Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: March 13, 2012 07:22AM

Finalist for Dryden Award includes Iles.

But I think he has very little chance of winning.

 
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Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: March 13, 2012 07:44AM

Interesting to look at the preseason awards and see who came up and who went down. The list courtesy of INCH. Sorry Adam, it was just easier to find there.:-O

ECAC Hockey Preseason Coaches Poll (total points and first-place votes in parentheses)
1. Yale (117 points, 9 first-place votes)
2. Union (107, 2)
3. Cornell (97)
4. Rensselaer (76)
5. Dartmouth (85)
6. Quinnipiac (70, 1)
7. Harvard (65)
8. Princeton (51)
9. St. Lawrence (43)
10. Colgate (31)
11. Clarkson (28)
12. Brown (22)

The preseason All-ECAC Hockey team as selected by the league’s coaches:

F-Jack Maclellan, Brown
F-Andrew Miller, Yale
F-Brian O’Neill, Yale
D-Nick Bailen, Rensselaer
D-Danny Biega, Harvard
G-James Mello, Dartmouth

ECAC Hockey Preseason Media Poll (total points and first-place votes in parentheses)
1. Yale (432 points, 23 first-place votes)
2. Union (397, 11)
3. Cornell (356, 3)
4. Dartmouth (308, 1)
5. Rensselaer (281)
6. Quinnipiac (239)
7. Princeton (205)
8. St. Lawrence (173)
9. Clarkson (164)
10. Colgate (152)
11. Brown (134)
12. Harvard (129)

The media’s preseason All-ECAC Hockey team:

F-Greg Carey, St. Lawrence
F-Andrew Miller, Yale
F-Brian O’Neill, Yale
D-Nick Bailen, Rensselaer
D-Danny Biega, Harvard
G-James Mello, Dartmouth

 
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Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: css228 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 13, 2012 08:18AM

Jim Hyla
Finalist for Dryden Award includes Iles.

But I think he has very little chance of winning.
Karp deserves it, it will go to Grosenick, who is more a product of the talent around him than his actual skills.
 
Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: March 13, 2012 08:26AM

css228
Jim Hyla
Finalist for Dryden Award includes Iles.

But I think he has very little chance of winning.
Karp deserves it, it will go to Grosenick, who is more a product of the talent around him than his actual skills.
It's the system.

 
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Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: margolism (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 13, 2012 10:14AM

Good thing they actually play some games.
 
Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 15, 2012 11:45AM

I don't think there's any suspense in this one. Should only be one choice, but somehow they got a second. Finalists for POTY.

 
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Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: ACM (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 15, 2012 11:59AM

Jim Hyla
I don't think there's any suspense in this one. Should only be one choice, but somehow they got a second. Finalists for POTY.

Coaches vote, and you can't vote for your own player. Guess we can tell who Donny Vaughan voted for ...
 
Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: jtn27 (---.redrover.cornell.edu)
Date: March 15, 2012 02:33PM

Jim Hyla
I don't think there's any suspense in this one. Should only be one choice, but somehow they got a second. Finalists for POTY.

It's the hockey equivalent of grade inflation.

 
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Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: sah67 (---.ornith.cornell.edu)
Date: March 16, 2012 02:57PM

Congratulations to Brian Ferlin on being named the ECAC Hockey Rookie of the Year. Andy Iles and Nick D'Agostino were also named to the second team all-league
[ecachockey.com]
 
Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: css228 (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: March 17, 2012 12:10PM

sah67
Congratulations to Brian Ferlin on being named the ECAC Hockey Rookie of the Year. Andy Iles and Nick D'Agostino were also named to the second team all-league
[ecachockey.com]
Made the right call on Ferlin. Karp deserved the Dryden.
 
Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 17, 2012 05:20PM

So in case somebody didn't see it, I posted the results of the awards in my original post.

 
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Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 06, 2012 05:43PM

Ross named a Lowe's Senior CLASS First-Team All-American.

 
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Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: jeff '84 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: April 21, 2012 07:19AM

[cornellbigred.com]

Iles MVP; Captains named.
 
Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: BearLover (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 21, 2012 05:05PM

So I figure it's unlikely anyone leaves early now. Axell as captain?wtf
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/21/2012 05:06PM by BearLover.
 
Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: June 29, 2012 07:38AM

Ross is ECAC Student-Athlelete of the Year.

 
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Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: June 29, 2012 09:47AM


And earlier this year, the ECAC released the "All-Academic Team," and CU has 16 on the list.

[www.ecachockey.com]

Brown and Yale lead the way with 24 each, but when you can take all your courses pass/fail and there are no GPAs (like at Brown)...everybody's a winner?

What's also obvious is what academic programs hockey recruits are funneled to at each school, the most striking examples at the league's engineering schools. Between Clarkson & RPI, 38 players made the list, with only four in engineering (32 in Business and/or Management). Princeton has the largest mix, with none of the honorees sharing a major (but they do have 6 of 13 listed as "undeclared" ). Cornell has 8 AEM, 3 ILR, 2 Biological Sciences, Ross is Human Biology, Health, & Society (and pre-med), and McCarron is undeclared.
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 06/29/2012 09:53AM by RichH.
 
Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: June 29, 2012 10:32AM

RichH

And earlier this year, the ECAC released the "All-Academic Team," and CU has 16 on the list.

[www.ecachockey.com]

Brown and Yale lead the way with 24 each, but when you can take all your courses pass/fail and there are no GPAs (like at Brown)...everybody's a winner?

What's also obvious is what academic programs hockey recruits are funneled to at each school, the most striking examples at the league's engineering schools. Between Clarkson & RPI, 38 players made the list, with only four in engineering (32 in Business and/or Management). Princeton has the largest mix, with none of the honorees sharing a major (but they do have 6 of 13 listed as "undeclared" ). Cornell has 8 AEM, 3 ILR, 2 Biological Sciences, Ross is Human Biology, Health, & Society (and pre-med), and McCarron is undeclared.
It's not exactly news that RPI men's hockey players are management majors. That was the case when I was there also (Class of 1968). What has been surprising me for years is that a much larger percentage of the women hockey players go into technical fields [www.ecachockey.com], especially considering that is not the case in the general population.
 
Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: French Rage (---.packetdesign.com)
Date: June 29, 2012 01:20PM

ursusminor
RichH

And earlier this year, the ECAC released the "All-Academic Team," and CU has 16 on the list.

[www.ecachockey.com]

Brown and Yale lead the way with 24 each, but when you can take all your courses pass/fail and there are no GPAs (like at Brown)...everybody's a winner?

What's also obvious is what academic programs hockey recruits are funneled to at each school, the most striking examples at the league's engineering schools. Between Clarkson & RPI, 38 players made the list, with only four in engineering (32 in Business and/or Management). Princeton has the largest mix, with none of the honorees sharing a major (but they do have 6 of 13 listed as "undeclared" ). Cornell has 8 AEM, 3 ILR, 2 Biological Sciences, Ross is Human Biology, Health, & Society (and pre-med), and McCarron is undeclared.
It's not exactly news that RPI men's hockey players are management majors. That was the case when I was there also (Class of 1968). What has been surprising me for years is that a much larger percentage of the women hockey players go into technical fields [www.ecachockey.com], especially considering that is not the case in the general population.

Kinda makes sense. If you're a women's hockey players, you're likely not expecting to do that for that rest of your life; not that aren't some post-college options, but I think at that point you know if you have a chance. For men, there are more pro possibilities, so your college choice may be focused on your options for turning pro rather than what you learn. But for the women what you are planning to do with your major is likely a larger consideration, and if you're going to RPI your probably not choosing them for their art history major (no insult meant to RPI's art history department if it in fact has one).

 
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Re: Postseason Awards-Men
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: June 29, 2012 04:07PM

French Rage
ursusminor
RichH

And earlier this year, the ECAC released the "All-Academic Team," and CU has 16 on the list.

[www.ecachockey.com]

Brown and Yale lead the way with 24 each, but when you can take all your courses pass/fail and there are no GPAs (like at Brown)...everybody's a winner?

What's also obvious is what academic programs hockey recruits are funneled to at each school, the most striking examples at the league's engineering schools. Between Clarkson & RPI, 38 players made the list, with only four in engineering (32 in Business and/or Management). Princeton has the largest mix, with none of the honorees sharing a major (but they do have 6 of 13 listed as "undeclared" ). Cornell has 8 AEM, 3 ILR, 2 Biological Sciences, Ross is Human Biology, Health, & Society (and pre-med), and McCarron is undeclared.
It's not exactly news that RPI men's hockey players are management majors. That was the case when I was there also (Class of 1968). What has been surprising me for years is that a much larger percentage of the women hockey players go into technical fields [www.ecachockey.com], especially considering that is not the case in the general population.

Kinda makes sense. If you're a women's hockey players, you're likely not expecting to do that for that rest of your life; not that aren't some post-college options, but I think at that point you know if you have a chance. For men, there are more pro possibilities, so your college choice may be focused on your options for turning pro rather than what you learn. But for the women what you are planning to do with your major is likely a larger consideration, and if you're going to RPI your probably not choosing them for their art history major (no insult meant to RPI's art history department if it in fact has one).
Indeed, there is no art history department at RPI. :-)
 

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