Cornell 2, Harvard 1, Final

-- 1st --
Cornell 1st - 04:45 Devin, Mike (Birch, Braden)
Harvard 1st - 14:34 Fallstrom, Alex (unassisted)

-- 2nd --
Cornell 2nd - 17:46 Jillson, Locke (Mowrey, D'Agostino) PP

-- 3rd --
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Reset clock for extra 4 seconds at the end of the game. Then after the buzzer, some fights.

Cornell wins anyway.

Any word on why Iles started back-to-back?

Cornell finishes January 5-1-2 and alone in 6th place. They get the win despite no points from the Miller line, and they have their best Harvard-Dartmouth road trip in the 6 years since the re-establishment of that traveling partnership.

WillCMJr
Any word on why Iles started back-to-back?

Garman was "feeling under the weather."

WillCMJr
Any word on why Iles started back-to-back?

The Ithaca Journal said this morning the the article about yesterday's game,

Iles made a few saves on flurries late in the third period, starting his first Friday game of the season. Normally the weekend's second starter in the goalie platoon, Iles was pressed into duty with junior Mike Garman fighting off the flu.

Schafer said Garman will be re-evaluated before Saturday's game at Harvard.

Gotchya, thanks!

we definitely outplayed Harvard the first two periods, but Harvard took it to us in the third period, when we didn't help our own cause by taking two ill-advised penalties in the offensive zone. The way we've been blowing late leads this season, it was quite a relief to see us hold on to one this time. The one goal Harvard did score came off a defensive giveaway in our own zone, and Iles made some excellent saves.
As for the Great Harvard Whiteout, that consisted of a few dozen Harvard students wearing T-shirts they were handed at the game. Otherwise, it was a sea of red. The Harvard fans (yes -- they do have a few) sitting next to me during the second period commented on the how much red was in the crowd, and the fact that it was the first time they had noticed the rink being full this season.
The did post the final score for the Harvard-Cornell basketball game on the scoreboard. Last year, when we also played at Harvard in both sports on the same night, they didn't post the basketball score -- perhaps because Harvard lost that game!

Iles was the difference. Absolutely robbed H. on three occasions. First time seeing him live. Deceptively small, but laser quick feet. Loved that the Harvard student section rose to cheer, and then realized that he actually got the foot out. Think Tim Thomas, but doesn't have to flop because he has the angles.

At least 3/4 Red for fan turnout. I noticed in the Harvard program that Jan 29th was a promotional "White Out" night for the Harvard fans. We got a chuckle out of that. There were probably 20 students wearing white in the building.

PS: I did my grad work at Harvard. Go Big Red. Props to the Cornell band.

BigRedHockeyFan
Then after the buzzer, some fights.

And a resulting game DQ for D'Agostino, which means we lose him for next Friday's game against Clarkson.

The Big Finish:

Harvard 	3rd - 20:00 	Biega, Michael: CROSS-CHECKING
Cornell 	3rd - 20:00 	Kennedy, Patrick: ROUGHING
Harvard 	3rd - 20:00 	Biega, Michael: ROUGHING
Cornell 	3rd - 20:00 	Kennedy, Patrick: ROUGHING
Harvard 	3rd - 20:00 	Biega, Michael: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT
Cornell 	3rd - 20:00 	Kennedy, Patrick: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT
Harvard 	3rd - 20:00 	Killorn, Alex: ROUGHING
Cornell 	3rd - 20:00 	Birch, Braden: ROUGHING
Harvard 	3rd - 20:00 	Killorn, Alex: ROUGHING
Cornell 	3rd - 20:00 	Birch, Braden: ROUGHING
Harvard 	3rd - 20:00 	Killorn, Alex: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT
Cornell 	3rd - 20:00 	Birch, Braden: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT
Cornell 	3rd - 20:00 	D'Agostino, Nick: DISQUALIFICATION

I'll nominate Andy for GOTW. Heck of a game last night.

Trotsky
The Big Finish:

Harvard 	3rd - 20:00 	Biega, Michael: CROSS-CHECKING
Cornell 	3rd - 20:00 	Kennedy, Patrick: ROUGHING
Harvard 	3rd - 20:00 	Biega, Michael: ROUGHING
Cornell 	3rd - 20:00 	Kennedy, Patrick: ROUGHING
Harvard 	3rd - 20:00 	Biega, Michael: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT
Cornell 	3rd - 20:00 	Kennedy, Patrick: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT
Harvard 	3rd - 20:00 	Killorn, Alex: ROUGHING
Cornell 	3rd - 20:00 	Birch, Braden: ROUGHING
Harvard 	3rd - 20:00 	Killorn, Alex: ROUGHING
Cornell 	3rd - 20:00 	Birch, Braden: ROUGHING
Harvard 	3rd - 20:00 	Killorn, Alex: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT
Cornell 	3rd - 20:00 	Birch, Braden: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT
Cornell 	3rd - 20:00 	D'Agostino, Nick: DISQUALIFICATION

I didn't see the beginning of the fracas, what was the DQ for?

I did not see who it was but at the end of the game there was a Red player that was holding a Harvard player pinned to the ice for over a minute. I did not see how it started either but the game was getting chippy late and having to beat them a second time after the 4 sec reset may have set it off.

Killer
I'll nominate Andy for GOTW. Heck of a game last night.

Agreed. Couple of incredible saves going side-to-side to save what I thought were certain goals on cross-crease passes.

Both goalies have matured a lot this season. They look great.

BigRedHockeyFan
Both goalies have matured a lot this season. They look great.

Garman first and Iles fifth in save percentage in the ECAC:

Save Percentage:                                         Saves    GA     Pct
  1   Mike Garman              Cornell            JR       165     9    .948
  2   James Mello              Dartmouth          JR       380    22    .945
  3   Sean Bonar               Princeton          FR       115     7    .943
  4   Eric Hartzell            Quinnipiac         SO       306    21    .936
  5   Andy Iles                Cornell            FR       238    17    .933
  6   Allen York               Rensselaer         JR       373    29    .928
  7   Keith Kinkaid            Union              SO       333    26    .928
  8   Ryan Rondeau             Yale               SR       338    30    .918
  9   Mike Condon              Princeton          SO       166    15    .917
 10   Kyle Richter             Harvard            SR       213    20    .914
 11   Mike Clemente            Brown              JR       266    27    .908
 12   Ryan Carroll             Harvard            SR       231    24    .906
 13   Paul Karpowich           Clarkson           JR       421    44    .905
 14   Matt Weninger            St. Lawrence       FR       242    27    .900
 15   Alex Evin                Colgate            JR       157    23    .872
 16   Eric Mihalik             Colgate            FR       138    21    .868
Minimum 33% of Team Minutes Played

I would like to point out that the men are now 4-0-0 this season in games I have attended.

You're welcome.

Josh '99
I would like to point out that the men are now 4-0-0 this season in games I have attended.

You're welcome.

I was thinking "Slacker" rather than "Thank you".

Trotsky

BigRedHockeyFan
Both goalies have matured a lot this season. They look great.

Garman first and Iles fifth in save percentage in the ECAC:

IT'S THE SYSTEM!

ugarte

Trotsky

BigRedHockeyFan
Both goalies have matured a lot this season. They look great.

Garman first and Iles fifth in save percentage in the ECAC:

IT'S THE SYSTEM!

According to the site, we still have the best PK, and the third lowest number of goals allowed.

Sounds like coaching did not change much (surprise).

Did anyone else notice that there was NO mention whatsoever of the weekend's games in today's Sun?

Today was a truly noteworthy day in Cornell Daily Sun history. The WOMEN'S hockey team claimed the back page on Monday, rather than the men's hockey team. Wrestling was also featured, rather than basketball. So we are seeing prime coverage of the winning programs, rather than the historically popular programs.

I am not sure what this year's sports coverage editorial policy is [and I think that the compet process is underway so there may not actually be a policy] but last year I was told that full coverage on Tuesday was perceived as better than an inside story on Monday, so look for prominent coverage of the Harvard victory tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how this plays out through the rest of the season.

dag14
Today was a truly noteworthy day in Cornell Daily Sun history. The WOMEN'S hockey team claimed the back page on Monday, rather than the men's hockey team. Wrestling was also featured, rather than basketball. So we are seeing prime coverage of the winning programs, rather than the historically popular programs.

I am not sure what this year's sports coverage editorial policy is [and I think that the compet process is underway so there may not actually be a policy] but last year I was told that full coverage on Tuesday was perceived as better than an inside story on Monday, so look for prominent coverage of the Harvard victory tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how this plays out through the rest of the season.

I haven't seen hard-copies of the Daily Sun this year, but the number of print pages fell considerably in the previous two years because of decreasing advertisement revenue. With fewer pages for articles, the Sports Department opted to spread out coverage instead of shorter stories for more sports. Like any newspaper, the Sun is likely giving more prominent coverage to the current flavor of the month.

amerks127
With fewer pages for articles, the Sports Department opted to spread out coverage instead of shorter stories for more sports.

That's ridiculous. If you don't have space in the print edition, that's why you have a website. By Monday, many Cornell sports events are three days old ... and then you're going to hold the story for another day?

ajh258

ugarte

Trotsky

BigRedHockeyFan
Both goalies have matured a lot this season. They look great.

Garman first and Iles fifth in save percentage in the ECAC:

IT'S THE SYSTEM!

According to the site, we still have the best PK, and the third lowest number of goals allowed.

Sounds like coaching did not change much (surprise).

Well, if you've been to games, you've seen a significant change in offensive strategy. They are a much different team than a few years ago.

ajh258

ugarte

Trotsky

BigRedHockeyFan
Both goalies have matured a lot this season. They look great.

Garman first and Iles fifth in save percentage in the ECAC:

IT'S THE SYSTEM!

According to the site, we still have the best PK, and the third lowest number of goals allowed.

Sounds like coaching did not change much (surprise).

And when you look for goals scored per game, you read the list from the bottom up to save time.

Nicholls on College Hockey All-Access.

billhoward

ajh258

ugarte

Trotsky

BigRedHockeyFan
Both goalies have matured a lot this season. They look great.

Garman first and Iles fifth in save percentage in the ECAC:

IT'S THE SYSTEM!

According to the site, we still have the best PK, and the third lowest number of goals allowed.

Sounds like coaching did not change much (surprise).

And when you look for goals scored per game, you read the list from the bottom up to save time.

Not a statistically significant difference.

Weder

amerks127
With fewer pages for articles, the Sports Department opted to spread out coverage instead of shorter stories for more sports.

That's ridiculous. If you don't have space in the print edition, that's why you have a website. By Monday, many Cornell sports events are three days old ... and then you're going to hold the story for another day?

I don't think they have the staff either. It's hard enough for them to find writers willing to compose one coherent article a week. The handful of full time staff members aren't going to give up their entire weekends (in college) so they can write printable material and then additional material on the website.

I believe the Department prints far fewer national wire stories as well.

Lot of papers print how-they-won, why-they-won stories even in their next-morning editions.
Regardless, it was surprising not to see the men's hockey story posted online Monday even if a print story was held. There has been some discussion among Sun alumni and current Sun editors about the best way to post stories. Ironically, some of the alums who've seen their print world shrink have come to the conclusion that to survive and prosper you can't treat the website as a stepchild. If you hold your online story until it prints on paper, an online-only site will eat your lunch. For those heading into adult publishing jobs, the Sun is both a newspaper and a training lab and it's a good place to experiment. Like Cornell itself.

amerks127

I don't think they have the staff either. It's hard enough for them to find writers willing to compose one coherent article a week. The handful of full time staff members aren't going to give up their entire weekends (in college) so they can write printable material and then additional material on the website.

Staffing issues can be tough to work around, but that's where the sports editor and assistant sports editors should be picking up the slack. Even if they have no interest in going into journalism as a career, when you decide to run for a spot as one of the sports editors you're signing up for a lot of extra work.

Full disclosure: I wrote for the Sun when I was at Cornell, so it's tough for me to avoid taking the "in my day ..." attitude. But it's a bit disheartening to see that the paper's approach to the Web hasn't -- at least to the casual reader -- progressed a whole lot from when I was on campus and we posted stories a couple of times a week over a dial-up connection.

Weder

amerks127

I don't think they have the staff either. It's hard enough for them to find writers willing to compose one coherent article a week. The handful of full time staff members aren't going to give up their entire weekends (in college) so they can write printable material and then additional material on the website.

Staffing issues can be tough to work around, but that's where the sports editor and assistant sports editors should be picking up the slack. Even if they have no interest in going into journalism as a career, when you decide to run for a spot as one of the sports editors you're signing up for a lot of extra work.

Full disclosure: I wrote for the Sun when I was at Cornell, so it's tough for me to avoid taking the "in my day ..." attitude. But it's a bit disheartening to see that the paper's approach to the Web hasn't -- at least to the casual reader -- progressed a whole lot from when I was on campus and we posted stories a couple of times a week over a dial-up connection.

No argument here; I agree that the Sun should publish stories online on a rolling basis like most newspapers. Right now I think all the daily stories are uploaded together overnight.

However, I will say when I wrote for the Department, the issue was never a lack of "picking up the slack" on the part of editors nor a lack of interest in journalism. The current EIC of the Sun is a former Sports Editor if that speaks at all to his work ethic and interest in the profession.

You could try following them on Twitter for in-game analysis.

[twitter.com]

amerks127
With fewer pages for articles, the Sports Department opted to spread out coverage instead of shorter stories for more sports.
I don't think they have the staff either. It's hard enough for them to find writers willing to compose one coherent article a week. The handful of full time staff members aren't going to give up their entire weekends (in college) so they can write printable material and then additional material on the website.

I don't want this to turn into a Sun-bashing thread, but as a former sports editor of the Sun I am dismayed with both the quality and quantity of much of their sports coverage.
First of all, there should be an article on the website by Sunday night/Monday morning on any of the "major" sports that have played over the weekend. That article can be the same on that is published in the Sun, either on that Monday or a day later. That way the writers aren't giving up their entire weekends to write two articles, since the same article serves both purposes.
Remember, the Sun is a daily newspaper, not a weekly, or bi-weekly like at many other schools. If you're a daily newspaper, the expectation is that you put breaking news into the paper on a daily basis.
Secondly, if you are writing for the Sun, it should not be that difficult to write more than one coherent article a week. If you go into journalism, either online or in print, you will often be expected to write at least one coherent article a day. If it's a struggle to write one per week, you're just using the Sun to pad your resume.
If the Sun is currently in its pre-election period, where different candidates for the editor positions are taking turns running their departments, this would be a good opportunity for one of those candidates to find a way to get breaking news onto the website as soon as possible.
On the positive side, I am pleased that the Sun has a law student writing an ombudsman column. In his most recent column, for example, he discussed a Sun columnist who was caught plagiarizing, and how the Sun handled the arrest of a former staff member.

Jim Hyla

ajh258

ugarte

Trotsky

BigRedHockeyFan
Both goalies have matured a lot this season. They look great.

Garman first and Iles fifth in save percentage in the ECAC:

IT'S THE SYSTEM!

According to the site, we still have the best PK, and the third lowest number of goals allowed.

Sounds like coaching did not change much (surprise).

Well, if you've been to games, you've seen a significant change in offensive strategy. They are a much different team than a few years ago.

I haven't been to any games, Jim.

The guys did more than play winning hockey last Saturday, according to this excerpt from a Mike Schafer email:

The next day [Saturday] started a little different as we, the Devin boys, Locke Jillson, and Keir Ross were able to visit the Childrens Hospital in Boston. They were able to see around 12 children and deliver some Big Red teddy bears. All these kids were there for cancer treatments including my nephew. The kids were really excited to see some hockey players. Puts things in perspective!

Al DeFlorio
The guys did more than play winning hockey last Saturday, according to this excerpt from a Mike Schafer email:

The next day [Saturday] started a little different as we, the Devin boys, Locke Jillson, and Keir Ross were able to visit the Childrens Hospital in Boston. They were able to see around 12 children and deliver some Big Red teddy bears. All these kids were there for cancer treatments including my nephew. The kids were really excited to see some hockey players. Puts things in perspective!

They talked about this during the Saturday game. Apparently our guys were very strongly affected by it. Perspective is right.

It was either Franco Harris or a teammate who said, "Pressure? Pressure is losing your job and wondering how your family's gonna eat."

Trotsky
They talked about this during the Saturday game. Apparently our guys were very strongly affected by it. Perspective is right.

It was either Franco Harris or a teammate who said, "Pressure? Pressure is losing your job and wondering how your family's gonna eat."

Amen. Latrell Sprewell couldn't have said it any better.

RatushnyFan

Trotsky
They talked about this during the Saturday game. Apparently our guys were very strongly affected by it. Perspective is right.

It was either Franco Harris or a teammate who said, "Pressure? Pressure is losing your job and wondering how your family's gonna eat."

Amen. Latrell Sprewell couldn't have said it any better.

Though he did know how to apply pressure...