Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
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Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Beeeej (38.136.58.---)
Date: October 03, 2006 09:13AM
It's October.
I'm just sayin'...
I'm just sayin'...
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Jerseygirl (209.191.246.---)
Date: October 05, 2006 03:03PM
Ahem.
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: cbuckser (134.186.177.---)
Date: October 05, 2006 04:40PM
Moving back on ince-ice matters, Doug Murray will start the season in a coat and tie. Marc-Eduoard Vlasic, a 19-year-old defenseman, has supplanted Doug in the top 6. Unless Vlasic gets sent to the Q (the first year of his three-year entry level contract kicks in after his tenth game played), Doug will need injuries to break into the lineup.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: October 05, 2006 05:46PM
Question #6: was he wearing snakeskin pants during the interview?
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 05, 2006 06:24PM
cbuckser
Doug will need injuries to break into the lineup.
Ehrhoff, ene of the Sharks top 6 defensemen, is questionable for tonight's game against the Blues. Let's hope if Doug cracks the lineup tonight he makes the most of his opportunity.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: French Rage (---.packetdesign.com)
Date: October 05, 2006 06:35PM
cbuckser
Moving back on ince-ice matters, Doug Murray will start the season in a coat and tie. Marc-Eduoard Vlasic, a 19-year-old defenseman, has supplanted Doug in the top 6. Unless Vlasic gets sent to the Q (the first year of his three-year entry level contract kicks in after his tenth game played), Doug will need injuries to break into the lineup.
So will he go to the AHL or will they keep him with the Sharks as a fill-in? (Not familiar with how many extras they can keep for when a starter goes down.)
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: cbuckser (134.186.177.---)
Date: October 05, 2006 07:20PM
Doug Murray cannot be sent to the AHL without having to clear waivers, so I think that his roster spot is safe. An NHL team can have 23 men on its roster, not including players on the injured list.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: French Rage (---.packetdesign.com)
Date: October 05, 2006 07:50PM
cbuckser
Doug Murray cannot be sent to the AHL without having to clear waivers, so I think that his roster spot is safe. An NHL team can have 23 men on its roster, not including players on the injured list.
So for all intents and purposes, he is with the Sharks, just not playing?
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: cbuckser (134.186.177.---)
Date: October 05, 2006 08:09PM
Yes, if Christian Ehrhoff can play tonight, Doug Murray would be a healthy scratch. If Ehrhoff can't go, we'll find out if Doug is starting the season as the 7th or 8th defenseman.
It is hardly unusual for a teenaged player to make an NHL team out of training camp and get returned to juiors for seasoning, experience, etc. before he plays in his tenth NHL game. I would not be surprised if Marc-Eduoard Vlasic is playing in the QJMHL before the end of October. (Getting sent back to juniors is far better for a player's development than sitting on the pine. Ask Manny Malhotra.) Between that possibility and the reality that top-six defensemen will get hurt, I wouldn't rule out the possibilty that Doug Murray will play over forty games this season.
It is hardly unusual for a teenaged player to make an NHL team out of training camp and get returned to juiors for seasoning, experience, etc. before he plays in his tenth NHL game. I would not be surprised if Marc-Eduoard Vlasic is playing in the QJMHL before the end of October. (Getting sent back to juniors is far better for a player's development than sitting on the pine. Ask Manny Malhotra.) Between that possibility and the reality that top-six defensemen will get hurt, I wouldn't rule out the possibilty that Doug Murray will play over forty games this season.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: redhair34 (---.public.cornell.edu)
Date: October 05, 2006 10:45PM
cbuckser
Yes, if Christian Ehrhoff can play tonight, Doug Murray would be a healthy scratch. If Ehrhoff can't go, we'll find out if Doug is starting the season as the 7th or 8th defenseman.
Ehrhoff in the lineup...too bad.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: October 06, 2006 11:22AM
Word I hear from people who watched the Sharks game is that Vlasic was solid but Josh Gorges looks like he's overmatched physically.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: French Rage (---.packetdesign.com)
Date: October 06, 2006 01:41PM
jmh30
Word I hear from people who watched the Sharks game is that Vlasic was solid but Josh Gorges looks like he's overmatched physically.
Given the two goals on them in the first 5 minutes, hopefully that helps Doug crack the lineup.
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: RatushnyFan (---.rbccm.com)
Date: October 06, 2006 03:27PM
Doug is in the doghouse. Hasn't played regularly since January. Slight injury last year, sure, but he has been healed for a long time (mid/late March?). Only thing that I don't get is why they gave him a 3 year one-way contract (not sure if this is fact or just the Internet rumor). They must have thought he'd make more progress than he has so far.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: mgl11 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 06, 2006 03:59PM
I read on hfboards that Doug's contract is two-way in year one and one-way in years two and three.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Roy 82 (---.SRI.COM)
Date: October 06, 2006 07:03PM
What's a Nubian? uh, I mean a one-way contract?
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Chris 02 (---.icsincorporated.com)
Date: October 06, 2006 07:46PM
He'll receive that amount of money whether he plays in the NHL or AHL. Players on one-way deals typically remain on the NHL level.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: French Rage (---.packetdesign.com)
Date: October 06, 2006 09:29PM
Joe gets goal #560; now tied with Guy Lafleur at #19 all-time.
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: October 06, 2006 10:27PM
I think his second goal (plus one assist) tonight moves him past Lafleur.French Rage
Joe gets goal #560; now tied with Guy Lafleur at #19 all-time.
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: The Rancor (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: October 09, 2006 10:02PM
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: The Rancor (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: October 11, 2006 12:11PM
stay in school, win championships, then go pro. wtf?!?!
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 12, 2006 03:19PM
Murray was sent down today. There are now more players from Yale and Princeton in the NHL. Won't last too long though.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: October 12, 2006 03:26PM
Halpern and... Parros?calgARI '07
Murray was sent down today. There are now more players from Yale and Princeton in the NHL. Won't last too long though.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 12, 2006 03:29PM
jmh30Halpern and... Parros?calgARI '07
Murray was sent down today. There are now more players from Yale and Princeton in the NHL. Won't last too long though.
Yeah. Parros is with the Avalanche now - was picked up off waivers last week.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 12, 2006 03:33PM
calgARI '07
Murray was sent down today. There are now more players from Yale and Princeton in the NHL. Won't last too long though.
According to this article, he's being sent down to get him in better shape.
[www.theahl.com]
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: RatushnyFan (---.rbccm.com)
Date: October 12, 2006 04:49PM
I have a bridge for sale. Highest bidder.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.raytheon.com)
Date: October 12, 2006 04:59PM
redhair34calgARI '07
Murray was sent down today. There are now more players from Yale and Princeton in the NHL. Won't last too long though.
According to this article, he's being sent down to get him in better shape.
[www.theahl.com]
I wouldn't take the term so literally. Conditioning assignment just means being sent down, for a temporary, but perhaps indefinite amount of time, while still being paid at an NHL rate. This may exempt him from needing to clear waivers, I'm honestly not sure.
NHL CBA:
13.8. Conditioning Assignment. Unless a player consents, he shall not be sent to a minor league club for conditioning reasons. Nor shall such conditioning extend for more than 14 consecutive days without the player's consent. The player shall continue, during such period or mutually agreed to extension of such period, to receive the same salary, and be entitled to the same benefits, that he would have received had he continued to play with the Club.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 12, 2006 05:07PM
DeltaOne81
I wouldn't take the term so literally. Conditioning assignment just means being sent down, for a temporary, but perhaps indefinite amount of time, while still being paid at an NHL rate. This may exempt him from needing to clear waivers, I'm honestly not sure.
NHL CBA:
13.8. Conditioning Assignment. Unless a player consents, he shall not be sent to a minor league club for conditioning reasons. Nor shall such conditioning extend for more than 14 consecutive days without the player's consent. The player shall continue, during such period or mutually agreed to extension of such period, to receive the same salary, and be entitled to the same benefits, that he would have received had he continued to play with the Club.
Ahh ok, that makes sense. It's a way to circumvent puting him on waivers? I guess that's a good sign that they don't want to risk losing him. And perhaps they want him to get more playing time than he would have as the 7th/8th dman.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: cbuckser (134.186.177.---)
Date: October 12, 2006 05:48PM
redhair34
It's a way to circumvent puting him on waivers?
Yes. Players who are sent to a minor-league team on a conditioning assignment need not be placed on waivers when getting sent back to the minor leagues or returned to the NHL.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 12, 2006 07:34PM
No way does Murray pass through waivers so this move makes a lot of sense. A team like Washington or Columbus would definitely put a claim in.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 12, 2006 07:35PM
McKee was sent to Augusta of the ECHL today.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: October 12, 2006 08:16PM
Kind of sucks for McKee. But he made his choice and being demoted is part of that.calgARI '07
McKee was sent to Augusta of the ECHL today.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 12, 2006 08:21PM
KeithKKind of sucks for McKee. But he made his choice and being demoted is part of that.calgARI '07
McKee was sent to Augusta of the ECHL today.
It really depends on which guy shows up. The McKee of 04-05 is a totally different on than the guy of 05-06 (hold the Wisconsin game). He's a reflex goalie so it'll take him more time to adjust to the pro's than a butterfly goalie would.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: ugarte (160.254.20.---)
Date: October 13, 2006 09:37AM
I think you meant to post this here.calgARI '07
He's a reflex goalie so it'll take him more time to adjust to the pro's than a butterfly goalie would.
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: The Rancor (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: October 15, 2006 02:14AM
iggy and doug combine for 3 goals in a 5-4 loss to a cornell alumnis free portland.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: The Rancor (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: October 15, 2006 09:52PM
Iggy adds a goal vs Lowell, while Moulson, Pokuluk and Lenny ride the pine in their games.
apparently Pokuluk has a concussion-like symptom and left Saturday's game early.
apparently Pokuluk has a concussion-like symptom and left Saturday's game early.
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: The Rancor (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: October 15, 2006 10:22PM
[new.photos.yahoo.com]
some good, if not amature photos of the SA Rampage, and lenny's new Phoenix Helmet, which comes with a -3 hp curse and a 4.33gaa if you roll an even number on your D-10.
ps check out sarmapage.com for another nice photo of lenny.
some good, if not amature photos of the SA Rampage, and lenny's new Phoenix Helmet, which comes with a -3 hp curse and a 4.33gaa if you roll an even number on your D-10.
ps check out sarmapage.com for another nice photo of lenny.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: cornelldavy (---.vnnyca.adelphia.net)
Date: October 20, 2006 04:06AM
Apparently Doug's not too happy about his player rating in NHL 2K7:
[Q]Thornton had some of his teammates over recently for a little tournament at NHL 2K7 for the 360, and since he's on the cover, some of the guys have even begun appealing their ratings to him personally.
"We have one guy, Doug Murray, who is an up and down player, and he had to send one of our teammates down so he could get on the roster and play. He couldn't believe he was a 60. 'A 60! What are you doing to me?' He wanted to see if I could talk to the guys who make the game. Put in a good word. It was funny, he got a good kick out of it."[/Q]
[sports.ign.com] (the Murray reference is on the second page of the article)
[Q]Thornton had some of his teammates over recently for a little tournament at NHL 2K7 for the 360, and since he's on the cover, some of the guys have even begun appealing their ratings to him personally.
"We have one guy, Doug Murray, who is an up and down player, and he had to send one of our teammates down so he could get on the roster and play. He couldn't believe he was a 60. 'A 60! What are you doing to me?' He wanted to see if I could talk to the guys who make the game. Put in a good word. It was funny, he got a good kick out of it."[/Q]
[sports.ign.com] (the Murray reference is on the second page of the article)
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: October 20, 2006 10:15AM
If it'd make him feel better, he's over a 70 in EA's game.
Not that I'm the kind of big dork who'd know that off the top of his head or anything.
Not that I'm the kind of big dork who'd know that off the top of his head or anything.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 20, 2006 11:07PM
Lenny lets in 2 goals on 46 shots as the Rampage lose 3-1. A couple more good outings and you'd think Phoenix would consider calling him up, as most reports have indicated that Morrison and Cujo have been horrible.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 21, 2006 10:02PM
Moulson scores his first AHL goal tonight on the powerplay in the Monarchs 3-2 victory.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: The Rancor (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: October 22, 2006 12:07AM
Iggulden scores and Murray bangs one in again tonight, too.
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Tom14850 (---.kntnny.adelphia.net)
Date: October 22, 2006 04:40PM
What's up with Pokulok? It looks like he has only one game of action in Hershey so far. Is he injured, or is this Hugh Jessiman syndrome?
Doug back to San Jose
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 22, 2006 05:48PM
Murray is headed back to San Jose. Check out this article for an interesting anecdote from his last game with Worcester.
[www.telegram.com]
[www.telegram.com]
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/2006 05:56PM by redhair34.
Re: Doug back to San Jose
Posted by: ebilmes (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 22, 2006 06:46PM
“He’s all talk, no action,” Murray said of Clarkson and his thoughts of continuing things when the penalties expired, “but I wasn’t going to be selfish then, with the score like it was. That’s not helping my team.”
With Murray headed for California today and Clarkson likely to stay in Lowell, the pair may not see each other again, at least not soon. But that doesn’t mean it’s over.
“I won’t forget him,” Murray said.
Clarkson...
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Re: Doug back to San Jose
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: October 23, 2006 08:19AM
ebilmes
“He’s all talk, no action,” Murray said of Clarkson and his thoughts of continuing things when the penalties expired, “but I wasn’t going to be selfish then, with the score like it was. That’s not helping my team.”
With Murray headed for California today and Clarkson likely to stay in Lowell, the pair may not see each other again, at least not soon. But that doesn’t mean it’s over.
“I won’t forget him,” Murray said.
Clarkson...
Bet you he chokes in the playoffs.
Re: Doug back to San Jose
Posted by: Dpperk29 (128.153.201.---)
Date: October 23, 2006 08:30AM
is now when I should cry foul and say you aren;t giving us the respect we deserve and what not?
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Re: Doug back to San Jose
Posted by: schoaff (---.endlessloopsoftware.com)
Date: October 23, 2006 09:51AM
Dpperk29
is now when I should cry foul and say you aren;t giving us the respect we deserve and what not?
If he had said it on USCHO or some other neutral site, sure. However, in eLynah I think you have to give us much more latitude than that.
Re: Doug back to San Jose
Posted by: Dpperk29 (128.153.183.---)
Date: October 23, 2006 10:31AM
some people just dont get it... I was merely checking to make sure I was integrating myself into the society of Tech hockey fans who patrol this forum... apparently you didn;t get it...
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Re: Doug back to San Jose
Posted by: schoaff (---.endlessloopsoftware.com)
Date: October 23, 2006 11:22AM
Dpperk29
some people just dont get it... I was merely checking to make sure I was integrating myself into the society of Tech hockey fans who patrol this forum... apparently you didn;t get it...
Nope, you whooshed me. I'll go back to the short bus.
Re: Doug back to San Jose
Posted by: Jordan 04 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 23, 2006 11:34AM
Dpperk29
some people just dont get it... I was merely checking to make sure I was integrating myself into the society of Tech hockey fans who patrol this forum... apparently you didn;t get it...
It might have been that you forgot to
Re: Lenny called up?
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: October 23, 2006 11:49AM
Knowing my luck, he'll get the nod when the Rangers play Phoenix this Saturday and I'll have to root against him.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: October 23, 2006 12:47PM
OK, so I was trolling a bit. But it was a joke. So sue me.
And Schoaff is right. I probably would not have said it on USCHO. But here, I think (most of) the Clarkson fans would expect a little friendly ribbing.
And Schoaff is right. I probably would not have said it on USCHO. But here, I think (most of) the Clarkson fans would expect a little friendly ribbing.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: October 23, 2006 01:33PM
Anyone who gets offended by an offhand joke like the one Jeff made, even on a general forum like USCHO, especially when followed upw ith a , is an idiot.Jeff Hopkins '82
OK, so I was trolling a bit. But it was a joke. So sue me.
And Schoaff is right. I probably would not have said it on USCHO. But here, I think (most of) the Clarkson fans would expect a little friendly ribbing.
That said, i realize that Dpperk29's response shows a lack of idiocy.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Dpperk29 (---.cubley.clarkson.edu)
Date: October 23, 2006 02:03PM
my response to what jeff said was strictly meant to be funny... my second response... more for clarification and humor
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: October 23, 2006 05:14PM
Dpperk29
my response to what jeff said was strictly meant to be funny... my second response... more for clarification and humor
Sorry, Dpperk29. No harm intended.
Let's just say that someone has some of us a bit on edge.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 23, 2006 05:22PM
Jeff Hopkins '82
Let's just say that someone has some of us a bit on edge.
LSSU?
Re: Doug back to San Jose
Posted by: Rita (---.agry.purdue.edu)
Date: October 23, 2006 07:05PM
redhair34
Murray is headed back to San Jose. Check out this article for an interesting anecdote from his last game with Worcester.
[www.telegram.com]
Doug is listed as a healthy scratch for tonight's game in Columbus.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: The Rancor (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: October 24, 2006 04:11PM
in echl news, Mckee had 33 saves and Hynes has 2 goals and an assist last in las nights win.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 24, 2006 10:50PM
Morrison gets lit up by the Flames and is pulled in the second period. This was well adverstised as his last chance so expect LeNeveu to get the call soon.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: nyc94 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: October 24, 2006 10:58PM
calgARI '07
Morrison gets lit up by the Flames and is pulled in the second period. This was well adverstised as his last chance so expect LeNeveu to get the call soon.
Speaking as someone that never watches Phoenix, how much of this is their goalie situation, their defense, and their coach? Rough estimates accepted.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 24, 2006 11:22PM
nyc94calgARI '07
Morrison gets lit up by the Flames and is pulled in the second period. This was well adverstised as his last chance so expect LeNeveu to get the call soon.
Speaking as someone that never watches Phoenix, how much of this is their goalie situation, their defense, and their coach? Rough estimates accepted.
Phoenix in my mind is the worst team in the NHL. Mike Barnett is far and away the worst GM in the league and that team has lacked direction for five years now. They actually have a decent blueline, but a bunch of over the hill forwards and never will be's. They actually have a decent core in Doan, Nagy, Comrie, Ballard, Morris, Jovanovski, Boynton, and Michalek but they have nothing past there. They were counting on guys like Roenick and Nolan to have big rolls and these guys are well past it and not at all suited to the "New NHL." I don't think much of Gretzky as a coach either. He is clearly very intense but Phoenix is much worse defensively than they should be. It all comes back to Barnett though, who has made awful trade after awful trade. The franchise has no direction on or off the ice. They do have a nice stable of young blueliners to build around though.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 24, 2006 11:25PM
calgARI '07nyc94calgARI '07
Morrison gets lit up by the Flames and is pulled in the second period. This was well adverstised as his last chance so expect LeNeveu to get the call soon.
Speaking as someone that never watches Phoenix, how much of this is their goalie situation, their defense, and their coach? Rough estimates accepted.
Phoenix in my mind is the worst team in the NHL. Mike Barnett is far and away the worst GM in the league (not counting Garth Snow of course) and that team has lacked direction for five years now. They actually have a decent blueline, but a bunch of over the hill forwards and never will be's. They actually have a decent core in Doan, Nagy, Comrie, Ballard, Morris, Jovanovski, Boynton, and Michalek but they have nothing past there. They were counting on guys like Roenick and Nolan to have big rolls and these guys are well past it and not at all suited to the "New NHL." I don't think much of Gretzky as a coach either. He is clearly very intense but Phoenix is much worse defensively than they should be. It all comes back to Barnett though, who has made awful trade after awful trade. The franchise has no direction on or off the ice. They do have a nice stable of young blueliners to build around though.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.caltech.edu)
Date: October 25, 2006 02:20AM
calgARI '07nyc94calgARI '07
Morrison gets lit up by the Flames and is pulled in the second period. This was well adverstised as his last chance so expect LeNeveu to get the call soon.
Speaking as someone that never watches Phoenix, how much of this is their goalie situation, their defense, and their coach? Rough estimates accepted.
Phoenix in my mind is the worst team in the NHL. Mike Barnett is far and away the worst GM in the league and that team has lacked direction for five years now. They actually have a decent blueline, but a bunch of over the hill forwards and never will be's. They actually have a decent core in Doan, Nagy, Comrie, Ballard, Morris, Jovanovski, Boynton, and Michalek but they have nothing past there. They were counting on guys like Roenick and Nolan to have big rolls and these guys are well past it and not at all suited to the "New NHL." I don't think much of Gretzky as a coach either. He is clearly very intense but Phoenix is much worse defensively than they should be. It all comes back to Barnett though, who has made awful trade after awful trade. The franchise has no direction on or off the ice. They do have a nice stable of young blueliners to build around though.
At that rookie tournament I went to I was amazed to see Phoenix seem to be the best team defensively, and it seems that their younger players are well rounded. I know at the NHL level their defense is not all that great.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: October 25, 2006 11:29AM
calgARI '07 Wrote:
> Phoenix in my mind is the worst team in the NHL.
> Mike Barnett is far and away the worst GM in the
> league (not counting Garth Snow of course) and
> that team has lacked direction for five years now.
> They actually have a decent blueline, but a bunch
> of over the hill forwards and never will be's.
> They actually have a decent core in Doan, Nagy,
> Comrie, Ballard, Morris, Jovanovski, Boynton, and
> Michalek but they have nothing past there. They
> were counting on guys like Roenick and Nolan to
> have big rolls and these guys are well past it and
> not at all suited to the "New NHL." I don't think
> much of Gretzky as a coach either. He is clearly
> very intense but Phoenix is much worse defensively
> than they should be. It all comes back to Barnett
> though, who has made awful trade after awful
> trade. The franchise has no direction on or off
> the ice. They do have a nice stable of young
> blueliners to build around though.
Four of the eight guys you list as part of that "decent core" (Comrie, Michalek, Ballard, Morris) were acquired by trade under Barnett's watch (and were acquired for not a whole lot); Jovanovski and Boynton were free agent signings by him. (Roenick and Nolan don't have a whole lot left but they've only got one-year contracts at a little over $1 mil, not all that much of a gamble in the scheme of things.) I don't think Barnett is doing all THAT badly - I think you're more on the right track as far as Gretzky not being all that hot of a coach.
(By the way, I found a pretty good site for NHL salary info, if anyone is curious.)
> Phoenix in my mind is the worst team in the NHL.
> Mike Barnett is far and away the worst GM in the
> league (not counting Garth Snow of course) and
> that team has lacked direction for five years now.
> They actually have a decent blueline, but a bunch
> of over the hill forwards and never will be's.
> They actually have a decent core in Doan, Nagy,
> Comrie, Ballard, Morris, Jovanovski, Boynton, and
> Michalek but they have nothing past there. They
> were counting on guys like Roenick and Nolan to
> have big rolls and these guys are well past it and
> not at all suited to the "New NHL." I don't think
> much of Gretzky as a coach either. He is clearly
> very intense but Phoenix is much worse defensively
> than they should be. It all comes back to Barnett
> though, who has made awful trade after awful
> trade. The franchise has no direction on or off
> the ice. They do have a nice stable of young
> blueliners to build around though.
Four of the eight guys you list as part of that "decent core" (Comrie, Michalek, Ballard, Morris) were acquired by trade under Barnett's watch (and were acquired for not a whole lot); Jovanovski and Boynton were free agent signings by him. (Roenick and Nolan don't have a whole lot left but they've only got one-year contracts at a little over $1 mil, not all that much of a gamble in the scheme of things.) I don't think Barnett is doing all THAT badly - I think you're more on the right track as far as Gretzky not being all that hot of a coach.
(By the way, I found a pretty good site for NHL salary info, if anyone is curious.)
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 25, 2006 12:45PM
calgARI '07
Morrison gets lit up by the Flames and is pulled in the second period. This was well adverstised as his last chance so expect LeNeveu to get the call soon.
Morrison gets waived
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 25, 2006 01:40PM
Josh '99
calgARI '07 Wrote:
> Phoenix in my mind is the worst team in the NHL.
> Mike Barnett is far and away the worst GM in the
> league (not counting Garth Snow of course) and
> that team has lacked direction for five years now.
> They actually have a decent blueline, but a bunch
> of over the hill forwards and never will be's.
> They actually have a decent core in Doan, Nagy,
> Comrie, Ballard, Morris, Jovanovski, Boynton, and
> Michalek but they have nothing past there. They
> were counting on guys like Roenick and Nolan to
> have big rolls and these guys are well past it and
> not at all suited to the "New NHL." I don't think
> much of Gretzky as a coach either. He is clearly
> very intense but Phoenix is much worse defensively
> than they should be. It all comes back to Barnett
> though, who has made awful trade after awful
> trade. The franchise has no direction on or off
> the ice. They do have a nice stable of young
> blueliners to build around though.
Four of the eight guys you list as part of that "decent core" (Comrie, Michalek, Ballard, Morris) were acquired by trade under Barnett's watch (and were acquired for not a whole lot); Jovanovski and Boynton were free agent signings by him. (Roenick and Nolan don't have a whole lot left but they've only got one-year contracts at a little over $1 mil, not all that much of a gamble in the scheme of things.) I don't think Barnett is doing all THAT badly - I think you're more on the right track as far as Gretzky not being all that hot of a coach.
(By the way, I found a pretty good site for NHL salary info, if anyone is curious.)
Barnett has signed the following free agents, all well past their primes: Nolan, Roenick, Ricci, Hull, Laraque, Joseph. Pretty clear that isn't how you win in the New NHL yet he still went after these types this past summer. Basically moved Langkow and Handzus out for nothing as well.
Best trade he ever made was fleecing the most overrated GM ever (Pierre Lacroix) by bringing in Morris and Ballard for Vaananen and pending FA Gratton.
Also, Boynton was acquired in a trade this summer for Paul Mara.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 25, 2006 01:41PM
redhair34calgARI '07
Morrison gets lit up by the Flames and is pulled in the second period. This was well adverstised as his last chance so expect LeNeveu to get the call soon.
Morrison gets waived
[www.tsn.ca]
There is a chance that Phillipe Sauve will get the call over LeNeveu.
Lenevue Called Up to Coyotes
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 25, 2006 04:24PM
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 25, 2006 04:37PM
And in a matter of 48 hours, Cornell goes from having one NHLer to three surpassing Yale, Princeton, and Harvard in the process.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- Moulson mention in Union Leader
Posted by: crodger1 (---.abtassoc.com)
Date: October 25, 2006 06:23PM
Each week Mark Morriss (add an S for extra savings?) writes an "Inside Source" column for the Union Leader. This is from this week's write up
[www.unionleader.com]
LGR!
Mark Morriss
<SNIP>
Matt Moulson collected his first professional goal on Saturday and it was business as usual. He's an opportunist. Being in the right place at the right time is Matt's forte. He's a natural goal scorer and he will put a lot more pucks into net before the season is complete.
<SNIP>
[www.unionleader.com]
LGR!
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- Moulson mention in Union Leader
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: October 25, 2006 08:59PM
crodger1
Each week Mark Morriss (add an S for extra savings?) writes an "Inside Source" column for the Union Leader. This is from this week's write up
Mark Morriss
<SNIP>
Matt Moulson collected his first professional goal on Saturday and it was business as usual. He's an opportunist. Being in the right place at the right time is Matt's forte. He's a natural goal scorer and he will put a lot more pucks into net before the season is complete.
<SNIP>
[www.unionleader.com]
LGR!
Man is a born natural to do color commentary. Next week he can note that Matt is some kind of player. And that he shows up for every game ready to play.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: BCrespi (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: October 25, 2006 11:11PM
calgARI '07
And in a matter of 48 hours, Cornell goes from having one NHLer to three surpassing Yale, Princeton, and Harvard in the process.
Unfortunately, and while this won't affect the Cornell tally most likely, Nieuwendyk left the Panthers win over the FLAT Rangers tonight early on. Ranger announcers weren't sure of the severity of the injury.
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Steve M (---.fluor.com)
Date: October 26, 2006 09:28AM
Adam Morrison is on waivers. The Coyotes are likely to call up LeNeveu from San Antonio.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.ilr.cornell.edu)
Date: October 26, 2006 09:59AM
Steve M
Adam Morrison is on waivers. The Coyotes are likely to call up LeNeveu from San Antonio.
Mike Morrison. Yotes could call up Phillipe Sauve as well - he has a bit more NHL experience.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- Moulson mention in Union Leader
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: October 26, 2006 02:11PM
I think the last S is for "slap".crodger1
Each week Mark Morriss (add an S for extra savings?) writes an "Inside Source" column for the Union Leader. This is from this week's write up
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: calgARI '07 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 26, 2006 03:14PM
LeNeveu was officially called up today. Morrison went unclaimed on waivers and was sent down.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: bigredtrumpet (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: October 26, 2006 11:24PM
Went to the NJ Devils vs. Florida Panthers game tonite...
was hoping to see Nieuwendyk in action but he was scratched... found out later he hurt his back in Wed nite's win over the Rangers...
Final Score NJ 2 - FL 0
was hoping to see Nieuwendyk in action but he was scratched... found out later he hurt his back in Wed nite's win over the Rangers...
Final Score NJ 2 - FL 0
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 27, 2006 12:11AM
calgARI '07
LeNeveu was officially called up today
He's in goal tonight and doing well. He has 1 goal allowed on 23 shots as the Yotes lead the Oilers 5-1.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: October 27, 2006 08:10AM
Final score 6-2 PHX last night. Lenny stopped 32 of 34, and got the first star.
There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.
There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Beeeej (38.136.58.---)
Date: October 27, 2006 09:37AM
Jeff Hopkins '82
Final score 6-2 PHX last night. Lenny stopped 32 of 34, and got the first star.
There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.
To save you all a bit of searching, the video clip is on this page:
[www.phoenixcoyotes.com]
___________________________
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"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: October 27, 2006 10:40AM
LE-NE-VEU! LE-NE-VEU!Jeff Hopkins '82
Final score 6-2 PHX last night. Lenny stopped 32 of 34, and got the first star.
There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.
SI Nieuwendyk + Dryden Mention
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: October 27, 2006 11:16AM
After the bit of coverage we saw about that guy in Montreal being the first player in the NHL to wear #84, the last two-digit number never worn in the NHL, SI's Brian Cazeneuve wrote a short article about the best player to wear each number in the NHL. Joe makes the cut for #25, Dryden for #29. Doug Murray is not yet the greatest wearer of #41, but I have no doubt he'll pass Stu Barnes within a couple years.
Edit: No other school had more than one player listed.
Edit: No other school had more than one player listed.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/27/2006 11:32AM by Josh '99.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: RatushnyFan (---.rbccm.com)
Date: October 27, 2006 12:31PM
Lenny was solid in his first game. Let in a weak goal to F. Pisani but that was after making two great saves on breakaways by A. Hemsky. He had no chance on the second goal. Gretzky has already indicated that he has the hot hand and will be starting versus the Rangers on Saturday night.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: CowbellGuy (Moderator)
Date: October 27, 2006 12:34PM
Guess he'll get 2 wins in a row. *sob*
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: RichH (216.195.201.---)
Date: October 27, 2006 01:00PM
Jeff Hopkins '82
There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.
Hmm...he needs to work on his post-game interview cliches.
C'mon, Lenny...by next month, I want you to master "we're just going to take it one game at a time..." and some version of "hard work" and "we never quit."
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: October 27, 2006 01:04PM
RichHJeff Hopkins '82
There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.
Hmm...he needs to work on his post-game interview cliches.
C'mon, Lenny...by next month, I want you to master "we're just going to take it one game at a time..." and some version of "hard work" and "we never quit."
Yeah, I thought the same thing. Can't help but picture Nuke LaLouche everytime I see an interview.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Rita (---.agry.purdue.edu)
Date: October 27, 2006 01:05PM
RichHJeff Hopkins '82
There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.
Hmm...he needs to work on his post-game interview cliches.
C'mon, Lenny...by next month, I want you to master "we're just going to take it one game at a time..." and some version of "hard work" and "we never quit."
Anybody know if Kevin Costner is available to help Lenny with this aspect of his development?
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: October 27, 2006 07:59PM
RitaRichHJeff Hopkins '82
There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.
Hmm...he needs to work on his post-game interview cliches.
C'mon, Lenny...by next month, I want you to master "we're just going to take it one game at a time..." and some version of "hard work" and "we never quit."
Anybody know if Kevin Costner is available to help Lenny with this aspect of his development?
[Insert Susan Sarandon joke here.]
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: October 28, 2006 07:25AM
jtwcornell91RitaRichHJeff Hopkins '82
There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.
Hmm...he needs to work on his post-game interview cliches.
C'mon, Lenny...by next month, I want you to master "we're just going to take it one game at a time..." and some version of "hard work" and "we never quit."
Anybody know if Kevin Costner is available to help Lenny with this aspect of his development?
[Insert Susan Sarandon joke here.]
Oh, my!
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 28, 2006 11:33PM
Lenny is getting shelled by the Rangers 5-1 in the 2nd. Seems like he's not doing that bad but the Phoenix "D" has left him out to dry.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Cactus12 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 28, 2006 11:46PM
Yeah, he's actually playing descently. Phoenix is terrible (and the Rangers top lines are finally clicking)
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 29, 2006 07:01AM
I saw most of the first two periods and it was easily the Rangers most productive offensive effort of the season. Lenny actually held his own durign the onlsaught (he stopped Betts off a breakaway), and a couple of the goals were off of weird deflections.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 29, 2006 07:08AM
Even the Great One thought Lenny played well despite the final (7-3 Rangers).
www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/15877088.htm
www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/15877088.htm
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 29, 2006 05:48PM
Doug Murray is playing in his first NHL game of the season this evening. He already picked up a roughing penalty.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Sarli (---.phil.east.verizon.net)
Date: October 29, 2006 08:11PM
He didn't stop at roughing...
Doug lands a few, or at least one
CBS recap has the photo
Doug lands a few, or at least one
CBS recap has the photo
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Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: redhair34 (---.resnet.cornell.edu)
Date: October 29, 2006 08:18PM
Yeah some of the Sharks fans over on HF "felt sorry" for Sarich.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 30, 2006 12:03AM
Looks like Doug was happy to get back into game action! Looking at the box score, the hooking penalty worries me more than the other two regarding the chances of Doug's continued playing time.
Edit: Far be it from me to disagree with Wayne Gretzky. Lenny played about as well as a goalie can play when he gives up 7 goals.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/30/2006 12:04AM by Josh '99.
Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Posted by: DisplacedCornellian (---.hr.hr.cox.net)
Date: October 30, 2006 08:05AM
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