CU-BU 2023

Is tonight's game being televised anywhere? TIA

They've always been streamed before.

Supposedly ESPN+

Schafer healthy?

arugula
Schafer healthy?

Apparently. (Stay to the very end.)

The game is listed as starting at 8:10 EST on ESPN+

Bancroft is skating in warm-ups so that's a good sign

The WHCU broadcast is pre-empting the regular radio show of an actual Nazi, Sebastian Gorka.

That's nice.

BU sweaters look like throw backs. Nice.

Edit: they are -- 1950 sweaters. Very nice. No garbage except the HE logo.

BU announcers know our guys' names.

Trotsky
BU announcers know our guys' names.

They look like a clown show but know the game and the teams.

Al DeFlorio

Trotsky
BU announcers know our guys' names.

They look like a clown show but know the game and the teams.

You didn't like the guy sporting the Pru Leith red jacket and 14-inch wide gold tie?

Peter Griffin on the play-by-play

CU2007
Peter Griffin on the play-by-play

7 years I lived there. Every other asshole sounds just like him.

And that's only the women.

These guys stickhandle like a professional team. Good thing they don't appear to have a clue about positional play.

Yikes. Great save Shane on that afterthought backhand tip.

Soft call on BU. I'm not proud.

We should study the BU pp.

We look more organized; they look more talented, faster, bigger, and more aggressive.

Welp, we're lucky to be tied. God bless Shaner.

Celebrini is scary. This was my point a few weeks ago. Obviously there is a chasm between the skill level of the NHL and college. Tonight you see part of that. BU has highly skilled individuals. We can win this but it has to be a tactical masterpiece and we just take advantage of the few chances we get.

BU sweaters are great.

Seger 7-1 on faceoff.

Castagna is definitely special with skill, and good to see him being responsible on defense.

The last 5 minutes we've looked... good.

On that goal, most of the Red abandoned the zone while the puck was still there. It was a 2 on 0 or 2 on 1 down low. Sloppy.

Much better period.

Other results are killing us too.

arugula
On that goal, most of the Red abandoned the zone while the puck was still there. It was a 2 on 0 or 2 on 1 down low. Sloppy.

Culmination of several mistakes, after that really nice stretch. A shame.

arugula
Other results are killing us too.

Tis the season.

Yes. We only have like 6 “difficult” games on the schedule—meaning ones that could help sos and pwr. We can’t lose them all plus losing to the Princetons of the world. Oy.

Tonight isn't over yet.

This color guy is an inbred homer, but he has said some pretty interesting things when he wasn't channeling an angry BU undergrad.

OK, let's convert this. We need this.

I guess the refs will keep giving us chances until we get it right.

Cornell timeout before a power play where the coaches carefully explain that you are, under no circumstances, to shoot.

Trotsky
This color guy is an inbred homer, but he has said some pretty interesting things when he wasn't channeling an angry BU undergrad.

I’m fascinated how these homers lack total self awareness regarding how ridiculous they can sound.

scoop85

Trotsky
This color guy is an inbred homer, but he has said some pretty interesting things when he wasn't channeling an angry BU undergrad.

I’m fascinated how these homers lack total self awareness regarding how ridiculous they can sound.

They're giving the slobs what they want. It's a tactic to appeal to eye balls.

YES, MOTHERFUCKER!!!

I really, really hate the "fancam"

dag14
I really, really hate the "fancam"

It's better with less unattractive fanbases.

Great kill.

WOOOOOOO

And even up #2 right on time.

Cornell 31-17 on faceoffs.

Very nice kill.

Great win!

Woohoo! I'm not sure how we did that, but, we did that.

Nicely done. The game winner was a beauty.

LETS GOOOO

(Although broadcast says 3-2 BU lmfao)

Shanes's best game of the year so far, hand's down

Hard to overstate how huge that win is. Beating #1 in the pairwise is gonna be a big help. Let’s sweep colgate and go into break happy.

Jason on the Voice of Treason with the recap.

Shane's 35 saves were definitely the difference.

Iceberg
Shanes's best game of the year so far, hand's down

Oh fuck yes, he was amazing.

chimpfood
Hard to overstate how huge that win is. Beating #1 in the pairwise is gonna be a big help. Let’s sweep colgate and go into break happy.

So, we were #27 before the win. We shall see...

18 saves in the third. Wow.

Trotsky

chimpfood
Hard to overstate how huge that win is. Beating #1 in the pairwise is gonna be a big help. Let’s sweep colgate and go into break happy.

So, we were #27 before the win. We shall see...

#21 on USCHO.

ugarte
Cornell timeout before a power play where the coaches carefully explain that you are, under no circumstances, to shoot.

negging works. lgr.

Cornell extends it's winning record (26-23-3) against BU.

dag14
I really, really hate the "fancam"

So does Hockey East have additional time outs during the regular season broadcasts or were these effing Fan Cam Can Cans designed to encourage folks to buy $15 beers?

I wasn't listening to WHCU. Did they run commercials during the extra down time?

Trotsky
Tonight isn't over yet.

You were correct sir

The games at MSG always have additional stoppages due to broadcast commercials. Definitely not a Hockey East thing

chimpfood
Hard to overstate how huge that win is. Beating #1 in the pairwise is gonna be a big help. Let’s sweep colgate and go into break happy.

You would think but only up to 21

marty

dag14
I really, really hate the "fancam"

So does Hockey East have additional time outs during the regular season broadcasts or were these effing Fan Cam Can Cans designed to encourage folks to buy $15 beers?

I wasn't listening to WHCU. Did they run commercials during the extra down time?

I think when they've had these games at MSG the rink staff just sticks to the NHL ice-cleaning rules for whatever reason -- 3 per period vs. 1 per period under NCAA rules. The stoppages were when they would've been for an NHL game.

Iceberg
The games at MSG always have additional stoppages due to broadcast commercials. Definitely not a Hockey East thing

My confusion is that I was watching the ESPN+ broadcast and all I saw was Fan Cam. I scratched my bald head as I longed for the East Hill Car Wash jingle.

Was the game also on the MSG cable channel?

Weder

marty

dag14
I really, really hate the "fancam"

So does Hockey East have additional time outs during the regular season broadcasts or were these effing Fan Cam Can Cans designed to encourage folks to buy $15 beers?

I wasn't listening to WHCU. Did they run commercials during the extra down time?

I think when they've had these games at MSG the rink staff just sticks to the NHL ice-cleaning rules for whatever reason -- 3 per period vs. 1 per period under NCAA rules.

That makes sense. It's in the contract.

marty

Weder

marty

dag14
I really, really hate the "fancam"

So does Hockey East have additional time outs during the regular season broadcasts or were these effing Fan Cam Can Cans designed to encourage folks to buy $15 beers?

I wasn't listening to WHCU. Did they run commercials during the extra down time?

I think when they've had these games at MSG the rink staff just sticks to the NHL ice-cleaning rules for whatever reason -- 3 per period vs. 1 per period under NCAA rules.

That makes sense. It's in the contract.

The NHL ice cleaning is also much more extensive than what they do in NCAA play, so that accounted for the long breaks.

Just back from MSG and watching some of the broadcast on demand. God I Love Bernie Corbett.

Terrific crowd if well below a sellout.

marty

dag14
I really, really hate the "fancam"

So does Hockey East have additional time outs during the regular season broadcasts or were these effing Fan Cam Can Cans designed to encourage folks to buy $15 beers?

I wasn't listening to WHCU. Did they run commercials during the extra down time?

I was wondering why there were so many timeouts. It didn’t make sense given the game wasn’t televised. It allowed BU to double shift their best players, particularly L. Hutson and A. Celebrini, the entire game.

It was a great atmosphere at MSG. That, coupled with the result, made tonight one of the most exciting nights to be a Cornell hockey fan in recent history.

Weder

marty

Weder

marty

dag14
I really, really hate the "fancam"

So does Hockey East have additional time outs during the regular season broadcasts or were these effing Fan Cam Can Cans designed to encourage folks to buy $15 beers?

I wasn't listening to WHCU. Did they run commercials during the extra down time?

I think when they've had these games at MSG the rink staff just sticks to the NHL ice-cleaning rules for whatever reason -- 3 per period vs. 1 per period under NCAA rules.

That makes sense. It's in the contract.

The NHL ice cleaning is also much more extensive than what they do in NCAA play, so that accounted for the long breaks.

The ice at MSG is notoriously shitty so I'm sure it was appreciated by the players.

BearLover

marty

So does Hockey East have additional time outs during the regular season broadcasts or were these effing Fan Cam Can Cans designed to encourage folks to buy $15 beers?

I wasn't listening to WHCU. Did they run commercials during the extra down time?

I was wondering why there were so many timeouts. It didn’t make sense given the game wasn’t televised. It allowed BU to double shift their best players, particularly L. Hutson and A. Celebrini, the entire game ...

It was televised on ESPN+. Now if only we can get NIL to apply to Fan Cam, we might get to watch a hockey game.

The Sun reported the game in great detail [cornellsun.com]

Swampy

BearLover

marty

So does Hockey East have additional time outs during the regular season broadcasts or were these effing Fan Cam Can Cans designed to encourage folks to buy $15 beers?

I wasn't listening to WHCU. Did they run commercials during the extra down time?

I was wondering why there were so many timeouts. It didn’t make sense given the game wasn’t televised. It allowed BU to double shift their best players, particularly L. Hutson and A. Celebrini, the entire game ...

It was televised on ESPN+. Now if only we can get NIL to apply to Fan Cam, we might get to watch a hockey game.

I meant televised on actual TV. The games on ESPN+ tend to have one commercial timeout per period. Games on actual TV tend to have three commercial timeouts per period (at least pro games and college games in the NCAA tournament). Tonight’s game had three per period.

arugula
We can win this but it has to be a tactical masterpiece and we just take advantage of the few chances we get.

Just wanted to highlight this. Was it a tactical masterpiece? No. But the D got their asses in line and Shane came up big where he had to. One particular toe save in the 3rd stood out to me. And the PP showed signs of actual creative movement. Keep that going.

Trotsky
Cornell extends it's winning record (26-23-3) against BU.

And moves the “Red Hot Hockey” record to 4-3-2 after starting it 0-3-2.

arugula
Just back from MSG and watching some of the broadcast on demand. God I Love Bernie Corbett.

Terrific crowd if well below a sellout.

I bought my ticket at 7:20pm. Available tickets at that time were very sparsely scattered across approximately a dozen sections, and I thought a majority of the tickets left were from resellers. They closed the extreme upper deck and bridge seats. It was much more full than in the recent past, and as noted the crowd was terrific.

David Harding
The Sun reported the game in great detail [cornellsun.com]

That is a great write up. Good job to those writers.

Trotsky

David Harding
The Sun reported the game in great detail [cornellsun.com]

That is a great write up. Good job to those writers.

Hopefully to be updated with quotes

marty

Iceberg
The games at MSG always have additional stoppages due to broadcast commercials. Definitely not a Hockey East thing

My confusion is that I was watching the ESPN+ broadcast and all I saw was Fan Cam. I scratched my bald head as I longed for the East Hill Car Wash jingle.

Was the game also on the MSG cable channel?

I’m pretty sure that for MSG games, it’s just whatever is on the Jumbotron with the announcers audio piped in (hence the ugly power play/goal text animations, get loud animations, fan cam, and the random 20 second times with just the red hot hockey logo)

Schafer’s postgame presser is up on Cornell’s Athletics write up of the game

Dunc

marty

Iceberg
The games at MSG always have additional stoppages due to broadcast commercials. Definitely not a Hockey East thing

My confusion is that I was watching the ESPN+ broadcast and all I saw was Fan Cam. I scratched my bald head as I longed for the East Hill Car Wash jingle.

Was the game also on the MSG cable channel?

I’m pretty sure that for MSG games, it’s just whatever is on the Jumbotron with the announcers audio piped in (hence the ugly power play/goal text animations, get loud animations, fan cam, and the random 20 second times with just the red hot hockey logo)

I think that the explanation that MSG just treats the time outs as if it were an NHL game is the best explanation. I was simply wondering why there were so many time outs.

Trotsky

David Harding
The Sun reported the game in great detail [cornellsun.com]

That is a great write up. Good job to those writers.

And the Cornell highlight crew did a great job here!

The post game interview is worth a watch too.

RichH

arugula
Just back from MSG and watching some of the broadcast on demand. God I Love Bernie Corbett.

Terrific crowd if well below a sellout.

I bought my ticket at 7:20pm. Available tickets at that time were very sparsely scattered across approximately a dozen sections, and I thought a majority of the tickets left were from resellers. They closed the extreme upper deck and bridge seats. It was much more full than in the recent past, and as noted the crowd was terrific.

That’s the thing. They didn’t sell the blue seats or the bridge so available seats were mostly sold but they didn’t sell whole building. Attendance was around 15,200. Building holds 18,200 for hockey. More than good enough.

My daughter got her pair late yesterday in the lower bowl for below face.

RichH

arugula
We can win this but it has to be a tactical masterpiece and we just take advantage of the few chances we get.

Just wanted to highlight this. Was it a tactical masterpiece? No. But the D got their asses in line and Shane came up big where he had to. One particular toe save in the 3rd stood out to me. And the PP showed signs of actual creative movement. Keep that going.

I was wrong. We picked up our forecheck and played more aggressively and lo and behold were able to keep up. Shane was great. The pp finally got out of its own way.

Thoughts about Caron? It was an interesting reversal. In the past two years we would dominate Brown and Caron would keep them
close. Today BU mostly controlled the first two half of the game and Shane kept us close.

arugula

RichH

arugula
We can win this but it has to be a tactical masterpiece and we just take advantage of the few chances we get.

Just wanted to highlight this. Was it a tactical masterpiece? No. But the D got their asses in line and Shane came up big where he had to. One particular toe save in the 3rd stood out to me. And the PP showed signs of actual creative movement. Keep that going.

I was wrong. We picked up our forecheck and played more aggressively and lo and behold were able to keep up. Shane was great. The pp finally got out of its own way.

The defense is maturing nicely. As I said last week, it's got to be a bear to feel everything needs work. There are a finite number of practice hours in a week.

marty

That makes sense. It's in the contract.

I started watching Ranger hockey at MSG in the mid-50s. In those days, four guys on skates, with those plow-like shovels, would clear the snow off the ice. They were followed by another four guys on skates pushing two ice-making contraptions. They were essentially 55-gallon drums on wheels or skids that spread water on the cleared ice. Zambonis were in general use everywhere else, so why not at MSG? I was told it was because of a union contract.

I thought it was a great crowd. Does Cornell bring recruits to MSG? Would like to think it helps up Cornell’s appeal. Some random observations from the game:

Shortly after Walsh’s tying goal Cornell had to play defense with one stickless player and a one legged skater because the former’s stick got harpooned through the skate blade hole of the latter. I’ve watched a lot of hockey and don’t remember seeing that happen to teammates before.

Also, unless I missed one, there were no shots off the pipes or crossbar. That struck me for some reason. Maybe in my head I think hitting the iron happens more than it does.

There’s no doubt that Schafer still has a fire in his belly. He left the ice for a moment after meeting with BU’s coaches and as he headed for the door he did a fist pump and then a full throated “yeah!” or roar (no way to hear what came out of his mouth but he put all his lungs into it).

arugula
Thoughts about Caron? It was an interesting reversal. In the past two years we would dominate Brown and Caron would keep them
close. Today BU mostly controlled the first two half of the game and Shane kept us close.

Caron played well but Shane was definitely better. The former has gotten some criticism from BU folks this season and I'm not convinced he doesn't give up more goals if Cornell doesn't have more quality opportunities during the game. He let up some rebounds that a Cornell player either overskated or the puck was bouncy and it was hard to finish. Either way, I'm sure he's glad to play in front of a talented BU team rather than whatever teams Brown had managed to muster during his years in Providence

Unorganized notes:

Crowd was great

Ian Shane for Hobey

Goal line clearance in the first period was incredible

Shane lost his stick like three times and scrambled quickly to grab it. I’m still scarred from Scrivens letting a goal in that way but Shane is clearly just a faster skater.

I wonder what coach said during the first intermission. Or BU got gassed…. Because the second period was SO much better. Our guys are fast and big and when they’re hustling it’s a sight to see.

The first power play has a lovely shot up the middle, following some quick puck movement, that gave me hope.

They were SO excited to win that game. Love to see it. Screw BU.

George64

marty

That makes sense. It's in the contract.

I started watching Ranger hockey at MSG in the mid-50s. In those days, four guys on skates, with those plow-like shovels, would clear the snow off the ice. They were followed by another four guys on skates pushing two ice-making contraptions. They were essentially 55-gallon drums on wheels or skids that spread water on the cleared ice. Zambonis were in general use everywhere else, so why not at MSG? I was told it was because of a union contract.

They were probably the same guys who shoveled up the elephant shit when the circus came to MSG.

BTW, I’m referring to the prior incarnation of MSG.

Like many other New Yorkers, my family moved to Nassau County in the early 50s. Some of my high school friends and I would get a ride to 179th Street in Queens and catch the subway to MSG. The old Garden had a true balcony with general admission seating. Tickets were $2.50 — $1.25 with a student ID.

First row seats were terrific, but some guys from Jersey would get there earlier and stake out the whole row at center ice for their friends. We sat in the second row. Who’s going to argue with some guys from Jersey?

How fortunate I was to get accepted at a school with a hockey team, although mediocre until god appeared in Ithaca in 1963!

Dafatone
Nicely done. The game winner was a beauty.

Hopefully, this will be the start of a nice run for Psenicka.

marty

Trotsky

David Harding
The Sun reported the game in great detail [cornellsun.com]

That is a great write up. Good job to those writers.

And the Cornell highlight crew did a great job here!

The post game interview is worth a watch too.

Both really great! Thanks!

BearLover
I meant televised on actual TV. The games on ESPN+ tend to have one commercial timeout per period. Games on actual TV tend to have three commercial timeouts per period (at least pro games and college games in the NCAA tournament). Tonight’s game had three per period.

Speaking about the ads, why were there no Cornell ads? In the past, the school ads were split evenly between both schools. I'm pretty sure there wasn't a single Cornell ad shown last night.

scoop85

Trotsky

David Harding
The Sun reported the game in great detail [cornellsun.com]

That is a great write up. Good job to those writers.

Hopefully to be updated with quotes

Honestly, I never think quotes add anything. They are the cliche scene from Bull Durham. They have zero value.

andyw2100

BearLover
I meant televised on actual TV. The games on ESPN+ tend to have one commercial timeout per period. Games on actual TV tend to have three commercial timeouts per period (at least pro games and college games in the NCAA tournament). Tonight’s game had three per period.

Speaking about the ads, why were there no Cornell ads? In the past, the school ads were split evenly between both schools. I'm pretty sure there wasn't a single Cornell ad shown last night.

They showed one on the jumbotron right before the anthem but that's it. Also, they didn't show any famous or notable administrators or alumni from either school except Mike Eruzione. I guess Moore, Pollack, etc. decided to skip the game this year?

Iceberg

andyw2100

BearLover
I meant televised on actual TV. The games on ESPN+ tend to have one commercial timeout per period. Games on actual TV tend to have three commercial timeouts per period (at least pro games and college games in the NCAA tournament). Tonight’s game had three per period.

Speaking about the ads, why were there no Cornell ads? In the past, the school ads were split evenly between both schools. I'm pretty sure there wasn't a single Cornell ad shown last night.

They showed one on the jumbotron right before the anthem but that's it. Also, they didn't show any famous or notable administrators or alumni from either school except Mike Eruzione. I guess Moore, Pollack, etc. decided to skip the game this year?

Moore was there and posted a bunch of pictures and videos on her Instagram account.

I’m very happy Cornell won last night and I had a great time at the game. But the performance did not inspire confidence for the rest of the year. Looking at the chances Cornell gave up, BU easily could have had four or five goals. Even though Cornell did finally score on the PP, it came when a puck popped out to Walsh from the half-wall, rather than set up by a passing play. The PP did look somewhat better but it still needs to vastly improve. I think the game would have been very ugly if not for Shane.

It was a great crowd and atmosphere at MSG. 15,289 was an excellent turnout. St. John's basketball drew 14,188 when they played Michigan at MSG two weeks ago. Great comments by Mike in the postgame on alumni support.