2006-7 All-Access

Started by Al DeFlorio, August 17, 2006, 10:07:48 PM

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Hillel Hoffmann

Pricing update: For what it's worth, I was able to reach a customer service agent on the phone today without much problem and was told that there would be no price change. Still $49 per year, or whatever it was in 2005-06.

The Mac thing is disgraceful.

jtwcornell91

[quote Trotsky][quote Jacob '06]We just need to get WHCU to do an online broadcast so we can at least get audio without having to pay CSTV.[/quote]
That would likely violate the No Access contract.

It's really a shame that a great technology is being squandered by technical incompetence and a lousy business model.  Consider that Age working alone for no pay did a far better job than these jackasses.  Cornell Athletics should be ashamed.[/quote]

Well, once upon a time, the games were on WVBR, which already had free web streaming 24/7.

jkahn

For more info on "All-Access" see:
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9630338
Apparently, the $99.95 includes all All-Access games for more than 100 schools.
Also, I infer from what they're saying that the schools themselves have some say in the pricing for their games.
[Q]"Notre Dame games will be free, while Navy, Stanford and other schools will charge $4.95 to $9.95 a month each for an "All-Access" broadband channel that includes live audio and video feeds of some games, news conferences, highlights, play-by-play animation and other features."[/Q]
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

Rita

[quote jkahn]For more info on "All-Access" see:
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9630338
Apparently, the $99.95 includes all All-Access games for more than 100 schools.
Also, I infer from what they're saying that the schools themselves have some say in the pricing for their games.
[Q]"Notre Dame games will be free, while Navy, Stanford and other schools will charge $4.95 to $9.95 a month each for an "All-Access" broadband channel that includes live audio and video feeds of some games, news conferences, highlights, play-by-play animation and other features."[/Q][/quote]

Kudos to  Notre Dame for making their feeds free!!!!  :-D That is certainly one way to keep your alumni and fans happy.

I can now listen to ND football while at work tomorrow night.

David Harding

Speaking of websites, I just clicked on the men's ice hockey schedule/results and found a page http://cornellbigred.cstv.com/sports/m-hockey/sched/corn-m-hockey-sched.html titled 2005 - 06 Men's Ice Hockey Tentative Schedule and Results!  It's lame to not yet have this year's schedule up, but the concept of last year's schedule still being tentative is mind-numbing.

upperdeck

I wonder if the all access link security is as bad as the espn360 one is.. I dont condone bypassing security but if its obvious how to do it..

Al DeFlorio

First football audio webcast should be next Saturday.  We should see a "formal" announcement soon.  I understand it will be $49.95 for the season.  We shall see.
Al DeFlorio '65

Rita

CSTV's audio feed for today's Notre Dame football game is working fine on a clunking PC desktop running windows XP. Notre Dame is making at least the audio feed for their sporting events FREE for everyone, alum or not. (BTW, 20-0 UND over Penn State at the half).

Miami of Ohio just missed upsetting the Purdue Boilermakers. Their kicker had 2 FG attempts blocked, including an ~ 30 yarder with 17 seconds left in regulation that would have given Miami a 3 pt lead. Purdue wins 38-31 in 1 OT. It was a fine day for a football game in the hockey-hell hole known as Indiana.

The Purdue band played the "screw BU song", in my head I was singing "screw BU, Miami too". How soon until the puck is dropped?

DeltaOne81

We're Sorry
But you will need Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 on the following systems in order to enjoy All-Access:

Microsoft Windows XP Home/Professional SP2, Windows XP Media Center 2005, Windows 2000 SP4; Media Player 9 or 10.



They won't even let me access the web page! I can't even try it!

Fuck them. Fuck them long, hard, and deep.

Rita

[quote DeltaOne81]We're Sorry
But you will need Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 on the following systems in order to enjoy All-Access:

Microsoft Windows XP Home/Professional SP2, Windows XP Media Center 2005, Windows 2000 SP4; Media Player 9 or 10.



They won't even let me access the web page! I can't even try it!

Fuck them. Fuck them long, hard, and deep.[/quote]

I went through the Notre Dame Football website and avoided CSTV's mainpage. I'm not sure what version of IE that PC is running (how do you find that out on a PC, where is the "get info" option?).

I am glad that ND is allowing access to the games for free. I would not have paid money for the game.

I'm sure I will be echoing your comments whenever I wish to watch/listen to a Cornell event from home rather than the lab.

Liz '05

[quote Rita]
 I'm not sure what version of IE that PC is running (how do you find that out on a PC, where is the "get info" option?).
[/quote]

Help/About Internet Explorer.  Look under "Version."

jtwcornell91

Can you post the link to the page you were trying to use when you got browser-sniffed, so I can follow it and complain when it doesn't work?

Also, Mozilla has various ways to masquerade as a different Browser/OS combination; you might want to try that in case they're just being stupid and it actually works on other platforms.

DeltaOne81

[quote jtwcornell91]Can you post the link to the page you were trying to use when you got browser-sniffed, so I can follow it and complain when it doesn't work?[/quote]

http://www.cstv.com/xxl/  (this it where the 'live games' link on CSTV.com brings you).

Then hit the big 'check it out' button.


QuoteAlso, Mozilla has various ways to masquerade as a different Browser/OS combination; you might want to try that in case they're just being stupid and it actually works on other platforms.

Yeah, I'd heard of that. I did some searching and found this:
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/

I'm gonna play around with it a little bit.

DeltaOne81

[quote DeltaOne81][quote jtwcornell91]Also, Mozilla has various ways to masquerade as a different Browser/OS combination; you might want to try that in case they're just being stupid and it actually works on other platforms.[/quote]

Yeah, I'd heard of that. I did some searching and found this:
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/

I'm gonna play around with it a little bit.[/quote]


So I set it to IE 6, Win XP and it no longer gives me the error, but neither does anything load.

I've seen the page on my gf's IE 6, Win XP computer, and its just a fancy flash-looking interface for the whole setup (chances are its not Flash or else it'd be cross platform, but that's what it looks like).

The question will be, I guess, if we can extract audio & video URLs out of the streams once it gets going, and if they then work.

If that works, and they just decided to make a fancy interface that doesn't, then that's just awful. Of course, its not much better to decide to pick an audio streaming interface that isn't cross platform either.

Heck, if they needed DRM for video for legal reasons, and Macs, Linux, etc could only hear their audio... I suppose I could live with that (at least if they gave us a cheaper audio-only subscription option). But streaming audio has been cross platform for over a decade, and its utterly inexcuseable that they can't make it such now.

jtwcornell91

Nobody needs DRM.  Provide a product people want and don't be an asshole to your customers, and we'll pay you what you deserve.