Alumni in the Pros - April 2006

[CUlater 89]

[quote Trotsky]Has a Cornell player ever scored on a Cornell goaltender in an NHL game?  (Nieuwy and Hayward would be my guess.)  Have two Cornell goaltenders ever faced each other in an NHL game?  (Hayward and Eliot, perhaps?)  Have two Cornell players ever played together on the same team in an NHL game?  (Nieuwy and Dadswell?)[/quote]

Dadswell's games

http://hockeygoalies.org/bio/dadswell.html

Eliot's games (including one in '88 vs. Calgary and likely Nieuwendyk)

http://hockeygoalies.org/bio/eliot.html

Hayward's games (none vs. Eliot)

http://hockeygoalies.org/bio/hayward.html

[Brian]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, "Falcons' Vesce is top rookie for April"

http://www.theahl.com/AHL/News/RookieOfTheMonth/2006/04/18/1539020.html

[ebilmes]

Lenny ended up letting in 5 goals on 31 shots against Nashville. :-/

[redice]

[quote ebilmes]Lenny ended up letting in 5 goals on 31 shots against Nashville. :-/[/quote]

"and was the only member of the Falcons to play in all 80 games."   You Go, Ryan!!

[A-19]

[quote ebilmes]Lenny ended up letting in 5 goals on 31 shots against Nashville. :-/[/quote]

actually think he let up 4. the 5th went in on a delayed phx penalty when a defenseman shot it into his own net. i dont think lenny was in net at the time (you would presume he was skating to the bench)

[jtwcornell91]

[quote A-19][quote ebilmes]Lenny ended up letting in 5 goals on 31 shots against Nashville. :-/[/quote]

actually think he let up 4. the 5th went in on a delayed phx penalty when a defenseman shot it into his own net. i dont think lenny was in net at the time (you would presume he was skating to the bench)[/quote]

But the goalie still gets charged with the GA in that scenario :-(

[WillR]

[quote jtwcornell91][quote A-19][quote ebilmes]Lenny ended up letting in 5 goals on 31 shots against Nashville. :-/[/quote]

actually think he let up 4. the 5th went in on a delayed phx penalty when a defenseman shot it into his own net. i dont think lenny was in net at the time (you would presume he was skating to the bench)[/quote]

But the goalie still gets charged with the GA in that scenario :-([/quote]

Are you sure?  Does that mean when you pull the goalie and the other team scores a goal that this counts against the goalie's average?  If this is not the case why the disparity?

Wow a post of all questions.

[mgl11]

I'm not so sure...the box score on espn list the snafu as an empty netter, but gives credit for the goal to Nashville goalie Chris Mason.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/boxscore?gameId=260415027

[jtwcornell91]

[quote WillR][quote jtwcornell91][quote A-19][quote ebilmes]Lenny ended up letting in 5 goals on 31 shots against Nashville. :-/[/quote]

actually think he let up 4. the 5th went in on a delayed phx penalty when a defenseman shot it into his own net. i dont think lenny was in net at the time (you would presume he was skating to the bench)[/quote]

But the goalie still gets charged with the GA in that scenario :-([/quote]

Are you sure?  Does that mean when you pull the goalie and the other team scores a goal that this counts against the goalie's average?  If this is not the case why the disparity?

Wow a post of all questions.[/quote]

I can't find the rule right now, but I'm pretty sure no one gets the GA if the goalie is pulled to gain an offensive advantage, but the goale of record gets charged if he's pulled on a delayed penalty.

[DeltaOne81]

I can't find the rule right now, but I'm pretty sure no one gets the GA if the goalie is pulled to gain an offensive advantage, but the goale of record gets charged if he's pulled on a delayed penalty.

To be fair, on a delayed penalty, you *are* pulling the goalie to gain an offensive advantage. Doesn't mean it may not be the rule, just means its a pretty hollow distinction if it is.

[Liz '05]

Would it make a difference whether or not he'd actually reached the bench at the time the goal was scored?

And why would the opposing goalie get credit for the goal?  Even if it were an own-goal, why choose him?

Which makes me wonder, how does one determine scoring on own-goals?

[Jacob '06]

[quote Liz '05]

Which makes me wonder, how does one determine scoring on own-goals?[/quote]

I'm pretty sure its just done by the closest player to the net at the time it was scored. I have no idea how that would end up being the opposing goalie since you would think he is the furthest from the goal when it happens, so perhaps I am wrong.

[Giffy]

[quote Jacob '06][quote Liz '05]

Which makes me wonder, how does one determine scoring on own-goals?[/quote]

I'm pretty sure its just done by the closest player to the net at the time it was scored. I have no idea how that would end up being the opposing goalie since you would think he is the furthest from the goal when it happens, so perhaps I am wrong.[/quote]

I think it's still the last person on that team to touch the puck.

[Dpperk29]

when I ref, I always give it to the kid who touched it last.

[cth95]

The article about the game said that the film was carefully reviewed and the goalie was the last player to have touched the puck.