CC/Bemidji/Wisconsin cheering

[jtwcornell91]

[quote cth95]Us- "Real Red","True Red", "We bleed Red", them- "Red Lite", "Rouge", "Faux Red", etc. or something along those lines.[/quote]

How about "Good Red"/"Bad Red"?

Also, show up for the early game and cheer for Bemidji. :-P

[nyc94]

[quote jtwcornell91]Also, show up for the early game and cheer for Bemidji. :-P[/quote]

I have nothing against rooting for the underdog but I was annoyed when the BC fans were cheering Mankato.  Since we have no rivalry with BC they have no real reason to cheer against us and pulling for an easy path to the Frozen Four is one thing if you do it here but another if you stand up in an arena.

[Beeeej]

[quote nyc94][quote jtwcornell91]Also, show up for the early game and cheer for Bemidji. :-P[/quote]

I have nothing against rooting for the underdog but I was annoyed when the BC fans were cheering Mankato.  Since we have no rivalry with BC they have no real reason to cheer against us and pulling for an easy path to the Frozen Four is one thing if you do it here but another if you stand up in an arena.[/quote]

Sorry, but that's ridiculous.  By your logic, the BC fans were required either to cheer for Cornell or to sit on their hands quietly.  Remember, we went into that tournament the #1 overall seed - everybody had a real reason to cheer against us.

Beeeej

[nyc94]

[quote Beeeej]Sorry, but that's ridiculous.  By your logic, the BC fans were required either to cheer for Cornell or to sit on their hands quietly.  Remember, we went into that tournament the #1 overall seed - everybody had a real reason to cheer against us.[/quote]

In fact, I said neither.  They are free to do whatever they want.  I said I thought they looked ridiculous.  And considering such high regard people had for our ranking in 2003, they should have wanted the opportunity to knock us off.

[Beeeej]

[quote nyc94][quote Beeeej]Sorry, but that's ridiculous.  By your logic, the BC fans were required either to cheer for Cornell or to sit on their hands quietly.  Remember, we went into that tournament the #1 overall seed - everybody had a real reason to cheer against us.[/quote]

In fact, I said neither.  They are free to do whatever they want.  I said I thought they looked ridiculous.  And considering such high regard people had for our ranking in 2003, they should have wanted the opportunity to knock us off.[/quote]

Okay, so to not look ridiculous to you, they would've had to be cheering for Cornell or sitting on their hands.  I still think that's absurd.

As for what they "should" have wanted, who are you to decide that for them?  I'd love to see Cornell beat Colorado College and Wisconsin, but I have a hard time believing it can happen.  So I'd rather see our path to Milwaukee go through Bemidji, and I can't imagine begrudging BC fans a similar desire in 2003.

And even leaving aside whether they "should" have wanted to knock off Cornell, in the absence of rivalries or other motivations, everybody loves an upset.

Beeeej

[Rita]

[quote Beeeej][quote nyc94][quote Beeeej]Sorry, but that's ridiculous.  By your logic, the BC fans were required either to cheer for Cornell or to sit on their hands quietly.  Remember, we went into that tournament the #1 overall seed - everybody had a real reason to cheer against us.[/quote]

In fact, I said neither.  They are free to do whatever they want.  I said I thought they looked ridiculous.  And considering such high regard people had for our ranking in 2003, they should have wanted the opportunity to knock us off.[/quote]

Okay, so to not look ridiculous to you, they would've had to be cheering for Cornell or sitting on their hands.  I still think that's absurd.

As for what they "should" have wanted, who are you to decide that for them?  I'd love to see Cornell beat Colorado College and Wisconsin, but I have a hard time believing it can happen.  So I'd rather see our path to Milwaukee go through Bemidji, and I can't imagine begrudging BC fans a similar desire in 2003.

And even leaving aside whether they "should" have wanted to knock off Cornell, in the absence of rivalries or other motivations, everybody loves an upset.

Beeeej[/quote]

Just not the #10 seeded (overall) hockey team knocking off the #8 seeded hockey
team!

Signed,
The woman with a squeak-ball "Left-side" bracket smashed to smithereens.

[RichH]

[quote Roy 82]
"[school or player name here] sucks!" (or countless variations there of)?

What could possibly be less imaginative? [/quote]

Ooo, I know!  Singing the opposing goalie's name over and over in the "doorbell" tune.  That is less imaginative, and it's the only thing NHL fans can come up with.  I hate that, because it isn't really taunting him, it's just saying his name.  Several college fanbases do that (SLU(t) and UVM come to mind for some reason), but I'm glad we don't.

While [opponent]....SUCKS! is unimaginative and lame if overused, at least it says something and expresses a fact/opinion.  Additionally, there is something I like about the entire crowd doing a prolonged "Harvard Sucks!" chant (not the call-answer one) before we play them.  It's primal, forceful, and expresses the depths of our hate in that special case.  It sets the stage and really reminds me that I'm at a Cornell-Harvard game.  No other team gets that treatment.

Certainly this generation overuses the word "sucks" and many of us have made fun of and complained about that.  But there is a time and a place for it where it just makes sense and works.

[RichH]

[quote Beeeej]So I'd rather see our path to Milwaukee go through Bemidji[/quote]

Additionally, a Cornell win and Wisconsin loss on Saturday would give our fans free run of the joint and an opportunity to be heard on Sunday. :-)

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaah/news?slug=uwire-itsnoworneverforrevivedwis&prov=uwire&type=lgns

[Q]"It can't be any better than to play in your home state in front of all red and white," Burish said.[/Q]

[nyc94]

[quote Beeeej]Okay, so to not look ridiculous to you, they would've had to be cheering for Cornell or sitting on their hands.  I still think that's absurd.

As for what they "should" have wanted, who are you to decide that for them?  I'd love to see Cornell beat Colorado College and Wisconsin, but I have a hard time believing it can happen.  So I'd rather see our path to Milwaukee go through Bemidji, and I can't imagine begrudging BC fans a similar desire in 2003.

And even leaving aside whether they "should" have wanted to knock off Cornell, in the absence of rivalries or other motivations, everybody loves an upset.[/quote]

If we won the title by beating Colorado College, Bemidji, New Hampshire, and Holy Cross just imagine the thread titles over at USCHO. :-)

Anyway, just to reiterate, I think people are free to cheer for whatever teams they want and no, I wouldn't have expected BC to cheer for us.  I'm not saying I won't pull for Bemidji in the privacy of my own home.  I'm not sure I would do it in Green Bay.

[Beeeej]

[quote nyc94]If we won the title by beating Colorado College, Bemidji, New Hampshire, and Holy Cross just imagine the thread titles over at USCHO. :-)[/quote]

I know, I've considered that myself.  :-D  But the truth is, if your team couldn't get it done in the opening round against Bemidji or Holy Cross, what right do you have to say Cornell didn't deserve the national championship by beating them?

It'll never happen that way, but it is fun to think about.  Personally I think winning the title by beating Colorado College, Bemidji, Sucks, and Holy Cross would be perfect.

Beeeej

[nyc94]

[quote Beeeej]It'll never happen that way, but it is fun to think about.  Personally I think winning the title by beating Colorado College, Bemidji, Sucks, and Holy Cross would be perfect.[/quote]

If Holy Cross beat Minnesota I would be spending the next two weeks over at GPL.

[jtwcornell91]

[quote nyc94][quote jtwcornell91]Also, show up for the early game and cheer for Bemidji. :-P[/quote]

I have nothing against rooting for the underdog but I was annoyed when the BC fans were cheering Mankato.  Since we have no rivalry with BC they have no real reason to cheer against us and pulling for an easy path to the Frozen Four is one thing if you do it here but another if you stand up in an arena.[/quote]

I think the fact that Wisconsin is the local team makes it more desirable to support Bemidji, since they'll be outnumbered.

[Jacob 03]

[quote RichH]
Ooo, I know!  Singing the opposing goalie's name over and over in the "doorbell" tune.  [/quote]

I like how you called two alternating pitches a "tune," Rich.  They can take the man out of pep band...


[quote Beeeej]

And even leaving aside whether they "should" have wanted to knock off Cornell, in the absence of rivalries or other motivations, everybody loves an upset.

Beeeej[/quote]

I like upsets (sometimes) too, Beeeej.  But out of curiousity, how is "in the absence of rivalries or other motivations, everybody loves an upset" really different from "unless I don't want to root for the little guy, I'm going to root for the little guy?"

[Beeeej]

[quote Jacob 03][quote Beeeej]

And even leaving aside whether they "should" have wanted to knock off Cornell, in the absence of rivalries or other motivations, everybody loves an upset.

Beeeej[/quote]

I like upsets (sometimes) too, Beeeej.  But out of curiousity, how is "in the absence of rivalries or other motivations, everybody loves an upset" really different from "unless I don't want to root for the little guy, I'm going to root for the little guy?"[/quote]

It's not.  Were you expecting it to be?

It's not that complex a concept.

Beeeej

[rouls78]

You bet.  And there will be plenty of tickets available for Milwaukee!!