2006 Pairwise Comparisons Projections: the Final Stretch!

Started by jtwcornell91, March 13, 2006, 08:32:10 AM

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Tub(a)

[quote DeltaOne81][quote Rita]
Jayson's bracket swaps Cornell and Miami and also puts BC in Worcester. That would certainly ensure a very good take at the gate. However, it does go against keeping 1-16, 2-15 etc bracket integrity.  If the committee is concerned about attendance at Worcester, wouldn't be easier to swap Neb-Omaha (14) with either Maine or UNH (12, 13)? [/quote]

Yeah, fat chance. We're going to Green Bay. Unless the committee feels really bad about last year. So, fat chance.[/quote]

I agree, but this swap would also make a lot of sense for Miami.

It could happen, but I'm not counting on it.
Tito Short!

Jim Hyla

Well CHN is showing their youth, unless I'm missing something. At this hour and state of mind that's possible. They show GB bracket with Wis (1), us (8), UM (9), and Bemidji (16), but then in their projected bracket page we end up playing W and UM plays B. ???? In fact every regional looks screwed up, so maybe it's me. Off to bed, need to be up by 11.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

French Rage

[quote Jim Hyla]Well CHN is showing their youth, unless I'm missing something. At this hour and state of mind that's possible. They show GB bracket with Wis (1), us (8), UM (9), and Bemidji (16), but then in their projected bracket page we end up playing W and UM plays B. ???? In fact every regional looks screwed up, so maybe it's me. Off to bed, need to be up by 11.[/quote]

They just didnt transfer it to the bracket structure right.  They have 1 playing 2 and 3 playing 4, looks like someone did a copy and paste instead of matching them up right.
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1

jtwcornell91

At http://slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/tbrw.cgi?rankings.diy switch the result of the final By-HC game from a HC win to a HC loss and make Bentley the AH champion.  Holy Cross's record vs TUC jumps from 1-2 to 5-3 and they win a bunch of comparisons vaulting them from #21 to #13 in the PWR.

RedAR

According to Moy, who is in Albany, the reason that USCHO placed Cornell in Worcester is as follows (if I understood him correctly):
There is a 3-way tie between Miami, Cornell, and UND. Cornell beats Miami, Miami beats UND, and UND beats Cornell. But, because UND has to stay in Grand Forks, UND was taken out of the mix, so Cornell beats Miami. Therefore, Cornell stays in the east.

jtw, can you comment on this line of reasoning?

atb9

[quote RedAR]According to Moy, who is in Albany, the reason that USCHO placed Cornell in Worcester is as follows (if I understood him correctly):
There is a 3-way tie between Miami, Cornell, and UND. Cornell beats Miami, Miami beats UND, and UND beats Cornell. But, because UND has to stay in Grand Forks, UND was taken out of the mix, so Cornell beats Miami. Therefore, Cornell stays in the east.

jtw, can you comment on this line of reasoning?[/quote]

I just wanted to add that it made sense to me.  ;-)

I think USCHO is just trying to win back Cornell fans after CHN's strong showing this weekend.
24 is the devil

abmarks

I cant figure out how CC ends up ahead of Michigan yet, either......

Robin

RedAR....I believe that IS what Moy said this evening.
whew 4am and I am home......

btw, to those I told this evening that Harvard moved ahead of BU in the PWR for a 1 seed, I apologize.  I apparently received misinformation.

jtwcornell91

[quote RedAR]According to Moy, who is in Albany, the reason that USCHO placed Cornell in Worcester is as follows (if I understood him correctly):
There is a 3-way tie between Miami, Cornell, and UND. Cornell beats Miami, Miami beats UND, and UND beats Cornell. But, because UND has to stay in Grand Forks, UND was taken out of the mix, so Cornell beats Miami. Therefore, Cornell stays in the east.

jtw, can you comment on this line of reasoning?[/quote]

This is sensible, and it's the way Joe Marsh's committees used to do things.  But it seems since the start of the 16-team tournament that they really don't look at the individual comparisons any more, and just read a 1-16 ranking off of the pairwise table.  The Harvard-SCSU-OSU business from 2003 is an example of this.

Of course, maybe the rotations on and off the committee have changed seeding practices again.

Ken '70

Perhaps Jayson isn't so much trying to predict what the committee will do, but he's getting out ahead of them and making a suggestion as to what they should do, and providing the justification for them.

jy3

I like Jason's ideas :)

it would make sense as well. 6-8 are as close in rankings as you can get. Unfortunately I will be on my way to christening and unable to watch the selection show. but i will be on here right after to see the seeds :)
LGR!
LGR!!!!!!!!!!
jy3 '00

Al DeFlorio

[quote Rita]On USCHO, Jayson Moy just put up his bracket.Northeast
3. BU            
8. Cornell      
11. BC          
14. Neb-Omaha    [/quote]
This Cape Codder hopes Jayson got it right.
Al DeFlorio '65