Cornell at St. Lawrence post-game thread (2/11/06)

[billhoward]

[quote Jason L][quote Rich S]do you think the opposition's play had anything to do with the "awful weekend."  I haven't seen any mention of that here.[/quote]

no. [/quote]
Rich was asking for it.

[atb9]

[quote Rich S]do you think the opposition's play had anything to do with the "awful weekend."  I haven't seen any mention of that here.[/quote]

Actually, Cornell only got one point because you posted on eLynah all week.  Way to go! ::rolleyes:: ;-)

[marty]

[quote CM cWo 44]
Bothman, you just got housed.[/quote]

Hosed? ;-)

or housed.....

[cth95]

Despite the frustrating quick goals by SLU(t), definitely an uplifting night compared to Friday.  We were inconsistent in the 1st, but much better in the 2nd and 3rd.  We were able to make break-after-break out of our defensive zone in the 3rd and in OT, leading to many good chances and the 4th goal.  The no-call on the 2 on 1 takedown that eventually led to the 2nd SLU(t) goal was very frustrating and a key, but I don't know if I would agree that the overall officiating cost us the game.  McKee looked very quick and kept us in the game numerous times.  I was sitting almost directly behind him during the 2nd.  I don't know his normal routine, but he was drinking during almost every stoppage.  His face looked like he was catching a breath and collecting himself almost every time as well.  If he felt like he looked, I am amazed he could play as well as he did.  

Hopefully this weekend was just an unlucky hic-cup.  A couple sitting behind me, who had hosted McKee's parents over the weekend, told me the whole team had the flu going through them over the week.  They told me David had not practiced all week.  Let's hope this has run its course and the team is back to last week's form for next week.  I hope this is the reason the Clarkson forwards were able to skate around our defensemen Friday.  That is certainly not something I am used to seeing any team do against us.

O'Byrne looked pretty sore when he went down, but skated off without much help.  Any news on his status?  Also, any news on Pokoluk?  

Here's to their return and a great upcoming weekend!   LGR!!!  ::rock::

[CowbellGuy]

Here's another one that always drives me batty. When Seminoff got called on the trip when diving for, and getting, the puck on that partial breakaway in the third I felt like strangling someone. The rule reads:

[q]If, in the opinion of a referee, a player on a sweep or hook-check is
unquestionably playing the puck and obtains possession of it, thereby
tripping the puck carrier, a penalty shall not be assessed unless the trip-
ping is flagrant.[/q]

In English, and the way it's always called in the NHL, is if you make a play on the puck and get a piece of it before the opposing player, it's not a penalty. Seminoff got the puck. It shouldn't have been a penalty.

[calgARI '07]

[quote CowbellGuy]Here's another one that always drives me batty. When Seminoff got called on the trip when diving for, and getting, the puck on that partial breakaway in the third I felt like strangling someone. The rule reads:

[q]If, in the opinion of a referee, a player on a sweep or hook-check is
unquestionably playing the puck and obtains possession of it, thereby
tripping the puck carrier, a penalty shall not be assessed unless the trip-
ping is flagrant.[/q]

In English, and the way it's always called in the NHL, is if you make a play on the puck and get a piece of it before the opposing player, it's not a penalty. Seminoff got the puck. It shouldn't have been a penalty.[/quote]

I forgot all about that ridiculous call.  It is truly amazing how often that call is screwed up in college.  On the play, Seminoff blatantly got the puck before the player fell.  I didn't even think the player was tripped; he just fell after the puck was swept away.

[WillR]

[quote calgARI '07][quote CowbellGuy]Here's another one that always drives me batty. When Seminoff got called on the trip when diving for, and getting, the puck on that partial breakaway in the third I felt like strangling someone. The rule reads:

[q]If, in the opinion of a referee, a player on a sweep or hook-check is
unquestionably playing the puck and obtains possession of it, thereby
tripping the puck carrier, a penalty shall not be assessed unless the trip-
ping is flagrant.[/q]

In English, and the way it's always called in the NHL, is if you make a play on the puck and get a piece of it before the opposing player, it's not a penalty. Seminoff got the puck. It shouldn't have been a penalty.[/quote]

I forgot all about that ridiculous call.  It is truly amazing how often that call is screwed up in college.  On the play, Seminoff blatantly got the puck before the player fell.  I didn't even think the player was tripped; he just fell after the puck was swept away.[/quote]

wasn't this the same interpretation problem that led to the penalty shot a week or two ago?

[calgARI '07]

[quote WillR][quote calgARI '07][quote CowbellGuy]Here's another one that always drives me batty. When Seminoff got called on the trip when diving for, and getting, the puck on that partial breakaway in the third I felt like strangling someone. The rule reads:

[q]If, in the opinion of a referee, a player on a sweep or hook-check is
unquestionably playing the puck and obtains possession of it, thereby
tripping the puck carrier, a penalty shall not be assessed unless the trip-
ping is flagrant.[/q]

In English, and the way it's always called in the NHL, is if you make a play on the puck and get a piece of it before the opposing player, it's not a penalty. Seminoff got the puck. It shouldn't have been a penalty.[/quote]

I forgot all about that ridiculous call.  It is truly amazing how often that call is screwed up in college.  On the play, Seminoff blatantly got the puck before the player fell.  I didn't even think the player was tripped; he just fell after the puck was swept away.[/quote]

wasn't this the same interpretation problem that led to the penalty shot a week or two ago?[/quote]

Although I don't remember that exact play off the top of my head, I remember thinking at the time it was a good call.  Pokuluk was definitively behind the player and took him down from behind.  That player was definitely in the clear too.  Seminoff was close to the SLU player - close enough where he could go for the defensive play (sweeping) and he made it.

[Dart~Ben]

[quote calgARI '07][quote CowbellGuy]Here's another one that always drives me batty. When Seminoff got called on the trip when diving for, and getting, the puck on that partial breakaway in the third I felt like strangling someone. The rule reads:

[q]If, in the opinion of a referee, a player on a sweep or hook-check is
unquestionably playing the puck and obtains possession of it, thereby
tripping the puck carrier, a penalty shall not be assessed unless the trip-
ping is flagrant.[/q]

In English, and the way it's always called in the NHL, is if you make a play on the puck and get a piece of it before the opposing player, it's not a penalty. Seminoff got the puck. It shouldn't have been a penalty.[/quote]

I forgot all about that ridiculous call.  It is truly amazing how often that call is screwed up in college.  On the play, Seminoff blatantly got the puck before the player fell.  I didn't even think the player was tripped; he just fell after the puck was swept away.[/quote]

The call isn't screwed up in college, it's simply a different rule in the NCAA than it is in the NHL. The interpretations section of the NCAA rule book specifically covers this situation.

"SECTION 58. Tripping
A.R.: Player A1, on a two-on-one, has the puck. Player B1 slides on the ice,
knocking the puck away from A1, but in the process, tripping A1. RULING:
Minor for tripping must be called. Tripping must be called anytime it
occurs, regardless of whether or not contact is made with the puck."

[calgARI '07]

[quote Dart~Ben][quote calgARI '07][quote CowbellGuy]Here's another one that always drives me batty. When Seminoff got called on the trip when diving for, and getting, the puck on that partial breakaway in the third I felt like strangling someone. The rule reads:

[q]If, in the opinion of a referee, a player on a sweep or hook-check is
unquestionably playing the puck and obtains possession of it, thereby
tripping the puck carrier, a penalty shall not be assessed unless the trip-
ping is flagrant.[/q]

In English, and the way it's always called in the NHL, is if you make a play on the puck and get a piece of it before the opposing player, it's not a penalty. Seminoff got the puck. It shouldn't have been a penalty.[/quote]

I forgot all about that ridiculous call.  It is truly amazing how often that call is screwed up in college.  On the play, Seminoff blatantly got the puck before the player fell.  I didn't even think the player was tripped; he just fell after the puck was swept away.[/quote]

The call isn't screwed up in college, it's simply a different rule in the NCAA than it is in the NHL. The interpretations section of the NCAA rule book specifically covers this situation.

"SECTION 58. Tripping
A.R.: Player A1, on a two-on-one, has the puck. Player B1 slides on the ice,
knocking the puck away from A1, but in the process, tripping A1. RULING:
Minor for tripping must be called. Tripping must be called anytime it
occurs, regardless of whether or not contact is made with the puck."[/quote]

Guess I stand corrected but I could have sworn the rule was the same in college as it is in the NHL.

[Dafatone]

Besides, it was on Seminoff.  He gets called for everything imaginable.  I think by now, the refs just look to dump penalties on him.

[oceanst41]

Speaking of rules, do they always ban Cornell from shouting "red" during the anthem at Appleton? They even went so far as to say if anyone shouted "red" the band could be removed from the rink, even if they weren't with the band.

Yet once again a drum was allowed to be played during play  ::screwy::

The traveling faithful didn't need props anyway, as much fan as thundersticks are.

[ugarte]

Don't the Clarkson fans yell "Knight"? And did the Cornell fans yell anyway?

[daredevilcu]

Yes, it's a house rule at Appleton.  They ban the Clarkson band from yelling Knights during the anthem, but if the fans yell (a group walked into the arena right after the announcement and yelled this year) they don't kick people out.  Honestly, it's always seemed like an empty threat to me, but as a part of the band, I don't tempt fate.  If I didn't have a sousaphone on my back, though, I'd have screamed anyway.  They didn't kick out the group that yelled this year, they won't next year, or most likely ever.

[daredevilcu]

See above, ugarte :-)